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some really great info dropped by Kevin in the past few days, I started a thread on this but it didn't go anywhere.
it's well documented these days that Skunkman bred the skunk out of Skunk because he preferred and selected for the fruity phenos.
others selected for low odor in the era of commercial growing before carbon filters for steath.
this video talks about Kevin's breeding program with old skunk genetic material trying to get back to the old school smells from our past and is very cool.
Wonderland Nursery's Skunk Project: Forgotten Strains and Time Travel
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this video relates to the above regarding odors and aroma.
Why Your Cannabis Doesn't Smell Like the Terpene Report Says It Should
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in this video he's talking about the loss of genetic diversity in the
forthcoming legal cali track and trace market and the new 6 clone a day limit coming up.
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it's well documented these days that Skunkman bred the skunk out of Skunk because he preferred and selected for the fruity phenos.
others selected for low odor in the era of commercial growing before carbon filters for steath.
this video talks about Kevin's breeding program with old skunk genetic material trying to get back to the old school smells from our past and is very cool.
Wonderland Nursery's Skunk Project: Forgotten Strains and Time Travel
[YOUTUBEIF]VGrDVE4tNug[/YOUTUBEIF]
this video relates to the above regarding odors and aroma.
Why Your Cannabis Doesn't Smell Like the Terpene Report Says It Should
[YOUTUBEIF]6DxFq5lROGY[/YOUTUBEIF]
in this video he's talking about the loss of genetic diversity in the
forthcoming legal cali track and trace market and the new 6 clone a day limit coming up.
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some info on my worm adventures that I posted in a worm tread.
my initial research and reading and listening to Coot led me to try and copy his method with bagged Coast of Maine Lobster Compost, Leaf mould, rock dust, Kelp, malted barley, ground oyster shell, etc while avoiding kitchen waste.
after lightening the mix up with rice hulls I layered a 20 gallon smart pot like a lasagna with freshly raked leaf and dirt from under the shrubs that surround the house and the lightened, amended bagged compost. there's no spraying or landscaping done here for years and that layer of earth and mulch around a house is often very active with beneficial critters that help the worms.
this fall I raked up a bunch of leaves and ran the mower through them several times then filled tubs with it to use as my bedding component.
I also found a friend with a place in their backyard where they have been putting the leaves for the past 40 years and I took several buckets of leaf mould that I dug from there and put in layers of this also.
after filling it up a bit over half way and watering it, I added a $28 pound of red wigglers and just added water and my excess weed leaves with no feed for about 4 months and didn't see very much evidence of reproduction in that time with the worms like I expected so I started adding some veggie and fruit scraps to the surface and it seemed to really stimulate them.
I was afraid of kitchen waste from things I read but I think the key is to feed them a bit less than they can handle so they attack it and process it faster than it can spoil, rot, ferment, etc.
I suspect when they are in this feeding frenzy that they reproduce better. they rub against the food to pre slime it from their outsides and it's always an orgy of activity since I started to feed and there's way more roly polys too now.
the fruits and vegetable that feed humans well should be fine feedstock for our worms/plants if we avoid the acidic stuff.
I'm not using citrus scraps or meat and baked goods just fruit veggies and green tea bags. lil fukkers hit the teabags like they get a buzz too, lol.
if it was summer and free I would want to feed weeds and plants/herbs that are medicinal that are everywhere in the wild.
did the worms reproduce faster in manure compared to the bagged compost for you?
what was the quality like of the castings in the manure bin compared to what got made in the bagged Oly fish mix?
from what I've seen so far and additional reading I would try a pound of worms in a 5 gallon smarty 1/4 filled then feed small amounts regularly so that by the time the pot is full you harvest more worms than you start with and scale up the size of the pot as needed each time.
if you start with a 200 gallon smartie I think you would need a small fortune in worms to get rolling. If you keep the mix as wet as the worm like you might wind up with bagged compost that goes aerobic.
I use a saucer as the lid on my bin and as soon as you lift it the roly polys bolt for the dry edges and hide.
this is the surface after being feed a week ago, the fruit skin remains after they have worked the pulp.
I'm curious if these brown round things are cocoons or not?
my initial research and reading and listening to Coot led me to try and copy his method with bagged Coast of Maine Lobster Compost, Leaf mould, rock dust, Kelp, malted barley, ground oyster shell, etc while avoiding kitchen waste.
after lightening the mix up with rice hulls I layered a 20 gallon smart pot like a lasagna with freshly raked leaf and dirt from under the shrubs that surround the house and the lightened, amended bagged compost. there's no spraying or landscaping done here for years and that layer of earth and mulch around a house is often very active with beneficial critters that help the worms.
this fall I raked up a bunch of leaves and ran the mower through them several times then filled tubs with it to use as my bedding component.
I also found a friend with a place in their backyard where they have been putting the leaves for the past 40 years and I took several buckets of leaf mould that I dug from there and put in layers of this also.
after filling it up a bit over half way and watering it, I added a $28 pound of red wigglers and just added water and my excess weed leaves with no feed for about 4 months and didn't see very much evidence of reproduction in that time with the worms like I expected so I started adding some veggie and fruit scraps to the surface and it seemed to really stimulate them.
I was afraid of kitchen waste from things I read but I think the key is to feed them a bit less than they can handle so they attack it and process it faster than it can spoil, rot, ferment, etc.
I suspect when they are in this feeding frenzy that they reproduce better. they rub against the food to pre slime it from their outsides and it's always an orgy of activity since I started to feed and there's way more roly polys too now.
the fruits and vegetable that feed humans well should be fine feedstock for our worms/plants if we avoid the acidic stuff.
I'm not using citrus scraps or meat and baked goods just fruit veggies and green tea bags. lil fukkers hit the teabags like they get a buzz too, lol.
if it was summer and free I would want to feed weeds and plants/herbs that are medicinal that are everywhere in the wild.
did the worms reproduce faster in manure compared to the bagged compost for you?
what was the quality like of the castings in the manure bin compared to what got made in the bagged Oly fish mix?
from what I've seen so far and additional reading I would try a pound of worms in a 5 gallon smarty 1/4 filled then feed small amounts regularly so that by the time the pot is full you harvest more worms than you start with and scale up the size of the pot as needed each time.
if you start with a 200 gallon smartie I think you would need a small fortune in worms to get rolling. If you keep the mix as wet as the worm like you might wind up with bagged compost that goes aerobic.
I use a saucer as the lid on my bin and as soon as you lift it the roly polys bolt for the dry edges and hide.
this is the surface after being feed a week ago, the fruit skin remains after they have worked the pulp.
I'm curious if these brown round things are cocoons or not?
so tonite I took a few shots of the feeding.
here's the fruit added to the surface.
I sprinkle a bit of a mix of kelp, rock dusts, oyster shell and cracked malted barley on the surface over the fruit then cover with about 1/2 inch of amended bagged compost followed by leaves and cover.
after 24 hours I'll peek to see if it needs any water.
here's the fruit added to the surface.
I sprinkle a bit of a mix of kelp, rock dusts, oyster shell and cracked malted barley on the surface over the fruit then cover with about 1/2 inch of amended bagged compost followed by leaves and cover.
after 24 hours I'll peek to see if it needs any water.
bestothebest
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I saw this thread. Keep us posted on this one too.
Chit Dawg you know you gotta peddle dat 2.0 uptown.
some place classy like Ferndale or Clawson...
finally a DJ shows up in my thread AND he's Slavoj Žižek!
Who is making those new brown clouds Homie?
spread that shit like butter bro!
That's a keeper homie! I'm glad you found a nice one.
GorillaBreath has held the loudest plants that I've seen, wish I could do a decent sized sift on them someday and get some test results on them.
it seems like there are several other seedmakers selling something called Gorilla Breath now so I can't be certain when I find test results online.
there are 6 tests of Gorilla Breath on the PSI sight ranging from 18% to 26% THC now, 2 were run the same time as the SFV Breath that pulled 32% cannabinoids so I'm guessing those are both mine but the one that won at High Times was from pug.
so one more week of flowering in this bullshit 4 x 8 and then I'm rocking thousands and that Gavita flex.
going to run 4K for 2 months and try to bank some meds for the summer while I can cool this basement with the bulkhead doors.
my veg game is not quite ready and I'm almost done recycling all the old soil that's piled up here the past 11 months.
brewing EWC tea every day has got my current crop smelling fine, I have not fed any bottled nutes this run since week 3.
I don't think indoor water only is a reality but tea only might be.
I was listening to this video again and it hit me that my MH only in flower might be the reason I'm never quite satisfied with how my OG's turn out.
one of the things he talks about in here is how genetics that were sifted under a certain type of light sodium/MH/LED or indoor/out/greenhouse/dep won't always come out stellar when you change something up.
this video has a crazy amount of info in it.
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I'm excited to run my OG's and sours under the Gavita and see how it changes the profile.
pretty sure they all would have been selected under sodium.
I think most stuff is improved in terms of flavor by flowering under MH but it might not be the case for a few of these.
I'm super stoked to be flipping the Kosher, Hollywood PK, and Headband next week!
very grateful to the members who helped me access much of the clones material I have.
Fire OG at 9 weeks, small buds but they are smelling great.
SFV got monster buds and terps this run!
OGKB 2.0 stacking but she's not really happy, I effed up and didn't have enough going in veg and I'm going to run out of her flowers when this ones smoked for the 1st time since I found her.
at least I'll have some forum and OG's to make the wait better.
going to run 4K for 2 months and try to bank some meds for the summer while I can cool this basement with the bulkhead doors.
my veg game is not quite ready and I'm almost done recycling all the old soil that's piled up here the past 11 months.
brewing EWC tea every day has got my current crop smelling fine, I have not fed any bottled nutes this run since week 3.
I don't think indoor water only is a reality but tea only might be.
I was listening to this video again and it hit me that my MH only in flower might be the reason I'm never quite satisfied with how my OG's turn out.
one of the things he talks about in here is how genetics that were sifted under a certain type of light sodium/MH/LED or indoor/out/greenhouse/dep won't always come out stellar when you change something up.
this video has a crazy amount of info in it.
[YOUTUBEIF]ofetbRBHXoc[/YOUTUBEIF]
I'm excited to run my OG's and sours under the Gavita and see how it changes the profile.
pretty sure they all would have been selected under sodium.
I think most stuff is improved in terms of flavor by flowering under MH but it might not be the case for a few of these.
I'm super stoked to be flipping the Kosher, Hollywood PK, and Headband next week!
very grateful to the members who helped me access much of the clones material I have.
Fire OG at 9 weeks, small buds but they are smelling great.
SFV got monster buds and terps this run!
OGKB 2.0 stacking but she's not really happy, I effed up and didn't have enough going in veg and I'm going to run out of her flowers when this ones smoked for the 1st time since I found her.
at least I'll have some forum and OG's to make the wait better.
"You must spread some reputation around before giving it to Chunkypigs again."
Great post man, that soil is ALIVE! Awesome info bro!
Vibes!
Great post man, that soil is ALIVE! Awesome info bro!
Vibes!
Nice pics and lineup. Thanks for the Jordey links as well, going to check them out.
Curious, on your water/tea only indoor do you put down any fresh layers of top dressing during the cycle? I have had really good results putting down a thin layer of worm castings, then covering that up with a thin layer of compost. If the plants seem like they are lacking anything, I will put down a nutrient specific layer under the worm.
Not my idea, got it from teaming with microbes. Works really well, the feeder roots grow through the castings like crazy, and look super healthy.
That dense flower, I guess its the Gorilla Breath, looks fantastic.
Mr^^
Curious, on your water/tea only indoor do you put down any fresh layers of top dressing during the cycle? I have had really good results putting down a thin layer of worm castings, then covering that up with a thin layer of compost. If the plants seem like they are lacking anything, I will put down a nutrient specific layer under the worm.
Not my idea, got it from teaming with microbes. Works really well, the feeder roots grow through the castings like crazy, and look super healthy.
That dense flower, I guess its the Gorilla Breath, looks fantastic.
Mr^^
I top dress with malted barley and bokashi a couple times, sometimes I'll add a little guano.
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Here's the plant those buds are on. She's about 6' tall.
Here's the plant those buds are on. She's about 6' tall.
I'm having a gnarly fungus gnat breakout in my veg right now but haven't been seeing any in flower.
tonite when watering with my compost tea I broke up the rice hull layer that was clogged and crusty
from the top dressings and the sediment in the tea and I flipped a chunk over and freaked.
my first thought was fungus gnat eggs then I scoped the grody fukkers. Hypoaspis miles or h. aculiefer.
The good ones and plenty of them. gotta transfer them to veg when I crop these next week.
gotta have a good mulch layer to keep the topsoil moist enough to promote these.
hard to get used to the idea of healthy bugs in the grow for me.
picked some buds to dry for the Gene Traders Sunday.
hopefully lots of you will show up in Ludlow and smoke them.
Forum yum yum.
Icing on the cookie.
tonite when watering with my compost tea I broke up the rice hull layer that was clogged and crusty
from the top dressings and the sediment in the tea and I flipped a chunk over and freaked.
my first thought was fungus gnat eggs then I scoped the grody fukkers. Hypoaspis miles or h. aculiefer.
The good ones and plenty of them. gotta transfer them to veg when I crop these next week.
gotta have a good mulch layer to keep the topsoil moist enough to promote these.
hard to get used to the idea of healthy bugs in the grow for me.
picked some buds to dry for the Gene Traders Sunday.
hopefully lots of you will show up in Ludlow and smoke them.
Forum yum yum.
Icing on the cookie.
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Happy Times
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Whoa! Still in veg?
I like big plants.
~star~crash~
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Your gonna have some super fat cola's on that one! She going where that one big Glue plant is/was?
MountainBudz
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Good God StarCrash! What are you feeding that girl??? What size container she in? Coco? Or promix?
~star~crash~
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MB she is in Fox Farms ocean forest pre-mixed soil & only in a 7 gallon container ..she's on bloom & been getting fed a combo of roots organics,advanced nutes ,& mammoth p for supplement
