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Do Not Buy From Mdhydro!!
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TheConfused
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Ya... There assholes..
Well now im screwed because all the other places for the same light is way more and if there close in price i cant use credit-card..
So now i dont have enough money for my HPS System thanks to those fuckers...
Ugh..
-TheConfused
Well now im screwed because all the other places for the same light is way more and if there close in price i cant use credit-card..
So now i dont have enough money for my HPS System thanks to those fuckers...
Ugh..
-TheConfused
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I understand your frustration, but its a legal issue.
just like going into a head shop and asking for a BONG....its not a bong its a water pipe. Same thing with other hydro stores, if you talk growing illegal substances they could get busted for selling with this knowledge.
I'm sure its nothing personal, they do have a business to look out for. I'm sure any hydro store you tell that too would do the same...
I could be wrong, but shit everyone has to protect themselves.
just like going into a head shop and asking for a BONG....its not a bong its a water pipe. Same thing with other hydro stores, if you talk growing illegal substances they could get busted for selling with this knowledge.
I'm sure its nothing personal, they do have a business to look out for. I'm sure any hydro store you tell that too would do the same...
I could be wrong, but shit everyone has to protect themselves.
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Fuck em
Fuck em
Well, that's nice to know. I was getting ready to order a new 600HPS ligth from them on Monday. I guess i'll have to purchase it at insidesun. I know alot of people don't like them, but i didn't have a problem with them on the first 600HPS i bought from them. Does MDHydro know how much business they are going to lose? Shit, How many people that are their customers that are legal inside growers. I mean, veggy and fruits? They got to be crazy if they think they can live on what they make from legal cutsomers. Just my throughts, i'll be buying some where's else. I liked using them because they are on the east coast and cheap.
Oh well
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Fuck em
Well, that's nice to know. I was getting ready to order a new 600HPS ligth from them on Monday. I guess i'll have to purchase it at insidesun. I know alot of people don't like them, but i didn't have a problem with them on the first 600HPS i bought from them. Does MDHydro know how much business they are going to lose? Shit, How many people that are their customers that are legal inside growers. I mean, veggy and fruits? They got to be crazy if they think they can live on what they make from legal cutsomers. Just my throughts, i'll be buying some where's else. I liked using them because they are on the east coast and cheap.
Oh well
Later
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I bought from insidesun the shipping was quick only took me 4 days to get mine from them, but the price was a bit higher....
I agree with billygoat all these hydro stores know without MJ growers they would all be out of business. But they do have to protect their business so I understand, although being a complete asshole is another story. Needless to say I would support a boycott afterall there are Legal MJ growers "medical users" right so they should show some compassion.
I agree with billygoat all these hydro stores know without MJ growers they would all be out of business. But they do have to protect their business so I understand, although being a complete asshole is another story. Needless to say I would support a boycott afterall there are Legal MJ growers "medical users" right so they should show some compassion.
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Theres' nothing wrong with that light. They just go through them and replace any parts that might be needed. Plus that unit comes with a 1 year warranty if there is a problem. If you get a good year out of that light for 90 bucks. You can't beat that deal, but i'll bet that light will last you a long time. The bulbe should be replaced every six months. I replace mine on the third harvest and keep a good timer on them. I've never had one problem "Knock on Wood" with a light. Cheap and the high dollar units. I've been buying the off brand and they have been serving me very well.
Good luck
Good luck
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Blow said:
I second that, use em for all my stuff, lightning shipping, great customer service, cant go wrong with em...
Loose lips sinks ships
Loose lips sinks ships
[I would have terminated the sale also if I were in their precarious position.]
In the spring of 1994, the Tucker family received lengthy prison
sentences -- 10 years for Steve, 16 years for his older brother Gary,
and 10 years for his brother's wife, Joanne -- without possibility of
parole, for the curiously worded federal crime of "conspiracy to
manufacture marijuana."
Yet federal prosecutors never charged them with buying, selling,
growing, transporting, smoking or even possessing marijuana. An
18-month DEA investigation had failed to turn up direct evidence
connecting the Tuckers to even a single joint.
Instead, they were locked away for selling the lamps, fertilizer and
gardening hardware from the small hydroponic supply shop Gary operated
on Buford Highway that enabled their customers to grow pot.
In the mid-'90s, the Tucker case became a cause celebre among
libertarian activists and other advocates of marijuana legalization.
It served as an oft-cited, cautionary example of the runaway powers of
the federal government and the worst excesses of the War on Drugs.
http://www.drugsense.org/lists/restore/2002/v2002.n268
Operation Green Merchant
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Loose lips sinks ships
[I would have terminated the sale also if I were in their precarious position.]
In the spring of 1994, the Tucker family received lengthy prison
sentences -- 10 years for Steve, 16 years for his older brother Gary,
and 10 years for his brother's wife, Joanne -- without possibility of
parole, for the curiously worded federal crime of "conspiracy to
manufacture marijuana."
Yet federal prosecutors never charged them with buying, selling,
growing, transporting, smoking or even possessing marijuana. An
18-month DEA investigation had failed to turn up direct evidence
connecting the Tuckers to even a single joint.
Instead, they were locked away for selling the lamps, fertilizer and
gardening hardware from the small hydroponic supply shop Gary operated
on Buford Highway that enabled their customers to grow pot.
In the mid-'90s, the Tucker case became a cause celebre among
libertarian activists and other advocates of marijuana legalization.
It served as an oft-cited, cautionary example of the runaway powers of
the federal government and the worst excesses of the War on Drugs.
http://www.drugsense.org/lists/restore/2002/v2002.n268
Operation Green Merchant
Click for Larger Image
Credit cards are very traceable as is shipping company information from potentially "targeted" businesses. Money order with a safe non-growing address. Don't use your real name. Pretend it's illegal what your doing.
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Better Grow Hydro is the best I have found. They have a huge selection and they are very pleasant to work with.
rollininoh
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common sense...
common sense...
Common sense should tell you not to call a hydro store and tell them about this cool marijuana growing site you are visiting. In case you hadnt heard , even in states where med mj is legal, the feds still love to bust people on conspiracy charges .
Hell man, every hydro store on ebay has a disclaimer that if you mention illegal activity they have to terminate the sale, so dont mention it!
Id be a dick about it to if I was them. Think about it like this, you bust your ass making a living, then some jerk ass calls and asks you which equipment would be best to yield him 50 lbs of dank nugs, then 10 minutes later the fbi storms in , it appears they had a wire tap on the phone hmmm. Yea id be pretty upset too.
I dont mean to be a dick or anything, but this is an extremely reputable company, they have topnotch service...Unquestionable return policies, and the fastest shipping, and cheapest prices ANYWHERE. Just because you messed up and could have cost them their business, I wouldnt go talkin shit on them.
common sense...
Common sense should tell you not to call a hydro store and tell them about this cool marijuana growing site you are visiting. In case you hadnt heard , even in states where med mj is legal, the feds still love to bust people on conspiracy charges .
Hell man, every hydro store on ebay has a disclaimer that if you mention illegal activity they have to terminate the sale, so dont mention it!
Id be a dick about it to if I was them. Think about it like this, you bust your ass making a living, then some jerk ass calls and asks you which equipment would be best to yield him 50 lbs of dank nugs, then 10 minutes later the fbi storms in , it appears they had a wire tap on the phone hmmm. Yea id be pretty upset too.
I dont mean to be a dick or anything, but this is an extremely reputable company, they have topnotch service...Unquestionable return policies, and the fastest shipping, and cheapest prices ANYWHERE. Just because you messed up and could have cost them their business, I wouldnt go talkin shit on them.
I would guess, based on precedence set in "Operation Green Merchant,"
MdHydro is operating under direction of Council that upon mention of, or reference to, any illegal activity to terminate all interaction immediately, and have no further contact. Least, that's what I would do if running a hydro shop business!
Thanx for the excellent info, Boggled! You are the Source of Info!
-BuzzBob
[edit] Providences??? Where was your head, BuzzBob! [/edit]
MdHydro is operating under direction of Council that upon mention of, or reference to, any illegal activity to terminate all interaction immediately, and have no further contact. Least, that's what I would do if running a hydro shop business!
Thanx for the excellent info, Boggled! You are the Source of Info!
-BuzzBob
[edit] Providences??? Where was your head, BuzzBob! [/edit]
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there are little rules of etiquette involved in dealing with hydro shops.. the MOST inportant is NEVER mention anything illegal. i can understand them being pissed and complete assholes in this regard as you're even mentioning this puts not only thier business at risk, but thier freedom as well. put yourself in thier shoes. i realize you probably only mentioned it because it was suggested to you in your earlier thread. i think that post was refering to inside sun though as they used to be sponsors of this sight if i remember correctly.
read I.M.BOGGLEDs thread on operation green merchant and you'll probably be a little more understanding of thier position.
how do they know you're not a dea agent? with regards to inquiries pertaining to illicit activity most business owners will assume the worst. and based on that assumption of course they're going to be assholes. they don't have the luxury of being any less stringent on these matters.
as people growing an illegal crop under federal law we've got to be more responsible in respecting thier need for discretion.
if i was in thier position i would look at it as a slap in the face if someone mentioned growing herb to me while placing an order and would waste no time in letting them know it,.
this is no reason to not do business with them.
instead it should be looked upon as a learning experience on how to conduct oneself when dealing with these companies.
i've personally dealt with these guys on a number of occasions in the past and would again if i didnt have 3 hydro shops within driving distance. i've always been treated with the utmost respect and courtesy by them. all it takes is for you to do the same.
of course they know where thier bread and butter comes from and believe me they wish that they could market openly but with all thats happened in the past this just isnt possible.
read I.M.BOGGLEDs thread on operation green merchant and you'll probably be a little more understanding of thier position.
how do they know you're not a dea agent? with regards to inquiries pertaining to illicit activity most business owners will assume the worst. and based on that assumption of course they're going to be assholes. they don't have the luxury of being any less stringent on these matters.
as people growing an illegal crop under federal law we've got to be more responsible in respecting thier need for discretion.
if i was in thier position i would look at it as a slap in the face if someone mentioned growing herb to me while placing an order and would waste no time in letting them know it,.
this is no reason to not do business with them.
instead it should be looked upon as a learning experience on how to conduct oneself when dealing with these companies.
i've personally dealt with these guys on a number of occasions in the past and would again if i didnt have 3 hydro shops within driving distance. i've always been treated with the utmost respect and courtesy by them. all it takes is for you to do the same.
of course they know where thier bread and butter comes from and believe me they wish that they could market openly but with all thats happened in the past this just isnt possible.
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racketeer
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Just like most everyone said before, it's not their fault, mention any illegal intents and they by law can not sell to you.
That's like going into a gun shop and telling them "Yeah, I want this gun because my bitch wife has been acting up and I'm gonna collect some insurance money".
Seriously, how can you blame them? There is a huge banner at my local shop saying just that too, HUGE.
That's like going into a gun shop and telling them "Yeah, I want this gun because my bitch wife has been acting up and I'm gonna collect some insurance money".
Seriously, how can you blame them? There is a huge banner at my local shop saying just that too, HUGE.
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I agree, this practice is not only limited to the MJ community. I worked in a pawn shop and phone shop were we bought items from people, if anytime in the transaction they mentioned the items were hot we were instructed to kick them out hard. We had to let them know we didn't deal in anything illegal. You never know who may be trying to fuck you up. You can't blame a person for not wanting to get caught up.
Most of you guys are always saying watch your back and don't tell anyone. That is what we have to do. We have to protect ourselves. They have to protect themselves. I have never bought anything from MD, but I would.
Most of you guys are always saying watch your back and don't tell anyone. That is what we have to do. We have to protect ourselves. They have to protect themselves. I have never bought anything from MD, but I would.
cooked cook
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I aint mad at him
I aint mad at him
Yeah, the ay I see it, this Brian dude that own MDhydro(I'm not him, I'm not affiliated with him or MDHYDRO, but I have bought a few things from them) is just a nervous dude tryin to run a semi legit business. Does he know people grow dope with his equipment?!?!?! OF COURSE( I mean seriously. Nervous lookin dudes walk in there and drop $500 cash on equipment and split... not for tomatoes.) Does he care? NOOO! But like others have said above, he could be liable and has to cover his own ass. Ultimately he has to protect his investments and profit. That's just good business, and I aint mad at him for that.
Note: it is also a bad idea to try to buy a handgun and when they mention a waiting period you say "ohhh, but I'm mad now!"
cook
I aint mad at him
Yeah, the ay I see it, this Brian dude that own MDhydro(I'm not him, I'm not affiliated with him or MDHYDRO, but I have bought a few things from them) is just a nervous dude tryin to run a semi legit business. Does he know people grow dope with his equipment?!?!?! OF COURSE( I mean seriously. Nervous lookin dudes walk in there and drop $500 cash on equipment and split... not for tomatoes.) Does he care? NOOO! But like others have said above, he could be liable and has to cover his own ass. Ultimately he has to protect his investments and profit. That's just good business, and I aint mad at him for that.
Note: it is also a bad idea to try to buy a handgun and when they mention a waiting period you say "ohhh, but I'm mad now!"
cook
