Do i even have a chance against these russets?

[fredthesmoker]

Hello. I've been following this forum for a while, and now i decided to make a profile, since im in real big problems in my current grow.

I got these plants three weeks in flower. I have been battling russet mites the last two weeks, with zero sign of them being eliminated. Until now i have used avid in week one, dr. bronners soap and for a week ago i started using sulphur. I do know sulphur is not the best option in flower, but in my country im very limited of options of insecticides..


My question is, do i stand a single chance to take them till end of flower, or am i just wasting my time with spraying sulphur every third day? I think the avid application helped a lot, but they seemed to have come back, and starting to make the pistils browning..

Do you have any succes application to make them go away, or should i just cut em down ?

 

[Creeperpark]

I'm sorry to hear you're having problems friend. I don't recommend smoking or vaping anything with sulfur or soap on it. The trichomes will catch all the chemicals and when you smoke it you smoke the chemical too. Plus the bugs and bug shit are not very potent.

You have an environmental problem in your tent that needs attention. If you don't stop the mites in this garden they will wreck every garden in the future. Too high temperatures and extra dry conditions will breed mites. I would take the plants outdoors and keep an eye on them. Break down everything in the indoor garden and clean it all up. Wait for a few weeks or a month to starve all the mites. When you start again bleach everything from top to bottom.

As a preventive use a cold pressed neem oil mixed with one drop of soap. Spray the plants when they are young,(4 weeks) as a preventive for the next 3 grow cycles and you won't have mites anymore.

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

Trash the plants, clean the area with iso/water as outlined below. You can clean your vegging plants easily.

Nothing personal Creeper, but Fck neem oil and the indian horse it rode in on. So tired of people passing around azadirachtin weed it's crazy. There is ZERO need for neem/aza anything in cannabis grows.

90%+ isopropyl alcohol, 1oz per gallon of water, a bit of surfactant and some way to keep it out of the root zone. Mites cannot survive it or build any type of resistance to it, and it kills eggs while dissolving webs.

The keys to success are:
1. Find the original source of infection and eliminate it. (Most people fail at this)
2. DRENCH the plants (not the root zone) each time, getting all surface areas. (Most people fail at this)
3. REPEAT every 3 days for 5 applications for a total of 15 days. (Almost everyone fails at this)

Do this and you're fine.

 

[fredthesmoker]

I'm sorry to hear you're having problems friend. I don't recommend smoking or vaping anything with sulfur or soap on it. The trichomes will catch all the chemicals and when you smoke it you smoke the chemical too. Plus the bugs and bug shit are not very potent.

You have an environmental problem in your tent that needs attention. If you don't stop the mites in this garden they will wreck every garden in the future. Too high temperatures and extra dry conditions will breed mites. I would take the plants outdoors and keep an eye on them. Break down everything in the indoor garden and clean it all up. Wait for a few weeks or a month to starve all the mites. When you start again bleach everything from top to bottom.

As a preventive use a cold pressed neem oil mixed with one drop of soap. Spray the plants when they are young,(4 weeks) as a preventive for the next 3 grow cycles and you won't have mites anymore.

I know it was not a good idea with the sulphur, but it was my last possible solution before deciding to trash them..

Im not really sure how these mites came to my grow. Maybe from the exhaust when i did not have it turned on, maybe from my clothe, maybe from the thrips i got a couple weeks before them. My enviroment is absolutely ok, with max 28 degrees and 50-60 humidity..

I hear what you are saying about trashing it all, but i got three different rooms with one tent in each.. A month ago i started six seedling coming from seeds and two clones from the infected ones. I already trashed the clones, but do you think i could make any advance of all these seperate rooms i got? Maybe having a quarantine room/tent with the small seedlings and then scrub and clean everything in the two others?

Is it necessary to "starve" the mites for one month? Im quite sure the eggs doesnt care about starvation, right? And the living ones will be trashed and scrubbed/heated away?

And my last question. If i do the IPM correctly with neem or sulphur (or whatever i choose), will it not keep them from further infestations in the future?

 

[fredthesmoker]

Trash the plants, clean the area with iso/water as outlined below. You can clean your vegging plants easily.

Nothing personal Creeper, but Fck neem oil and the indian horse it rode in on. So tired of people passing around azadirachtin weed it's crazy. There is ZERO need for neem/aza anything in cannabis grows.

90%+ isopropyl alcohol, 1oz per gallon of water, a bit of surfactant and some way to keep it out of the root zone. Mites cannot survive it or build any type of resistance to it, and it kills eggs while dissolving webs.

The keys to success are:
1. Find the original source of infection and eliminate it. (Most people fail at this)
2. DRENCH the plants (not the root zone) each time, getting all surface areas. (Most people fail at this)
3. REPEAT every 3 days for 5 applications for a total of 15 days. (Almost everyone fails at this)

Do this and you're fine.

This gives me some hope to not trash my vegging/seedling plants aswell. They are still really small, so it will be very easy to get all surfaces..

And how is it possible to find the source? I mean, the pest could come from anywhere, right? I've read even white flies can bring em to rhe grow. So if the IPM is correctly done, isnt that the safest method to keep the pest away?

 

[Creeperpark]

I have an old friend, I never go see anymore that has had mites for over 10 years. He refused to close the shop and start from scratch using a preventive with every future garden. He would always say I think I got them now. He never got rid of them so I stay away.

 

[fredthesmoker]

So he sprays during veg and release bugs in flower or?

 

[fredthesmoker]

I must say, i have grown for three straight years now, and this year was the year of mite infektion. - even though in my first year extracted inline fan directly from outside. But nothing happened. I guss being preventative should just be a part of growing and it comes from some kind of experince, - because i've never really thought about anything that could destroy my crop like this. Despite that, im in a believe that any problem, there also are a solution.. We just have to know how to deal with it, because this pest could get in anyhow.. Of course i could also begin burning my neighbours garden down, telling them im just paranoid that anything could possible kill my tomatoes..

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

Use filtered intakes.
Shower
Put on freshly laundered (lint free please) clothing
Go do garden stuff

 

[Creeperpark]

I don't mind saying I get down to my boxers before I go into my indoor garden. Not so much just for bugs but for hair and lent and other stuff too.

 

[fredthesmoker]

Anyone got some experience using sulphur vaporizer? I decided to trash the big flowering plants, so now my focus will be on these young girls, which are also infested with broads/russets..

The vaporizer will arrive tomorrow, and i try to get so much info on how to do this before using it. Anyone knows if i should let it vaporize for 1-2-3 hours? Everyday or? What is the best routine? And anybody tried it before to get rid of russet/broads?

 

[BDownSeedTeam]

I have an old friend, I never go see anymore that has had mites for over 10 years. He refused to close the shop and start from scratch using a preventive with every future garden. He would always say I think I got them now. He never got rid of them so I stay away.

Haha man that’s funny when I run into issues with outside clones they get tossed