moonymonkey
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do clones lose potency,if so after how many generations.......??
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do clones lose potency??.....
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This clone has.
This clone has.
YEP - altleast this one has i no of,
its a afgan pink my frien breed atleast 6 years ago, and in the 4 yrs ive known him,
hes been cloning the same cloned clone,over and over each time he harvests 4 times a year inside,
I were given a few of them to cross pollinate with another strain of my own,
my mate tells me its lost a bit of potency, not alot but enough to notice it,
it still packs a punch and has a beautifull sweet flavour of its own and is what i like about it and many many out of towners also,
he didnt mention any other traits that might have descreased, or hasnt noticed more like, - hes a greedy cloner only now. ) Lol.
And i have read on icmag magizine i think ? ages ago' , after 150 - 250 times you clone a clone like this afgani here, there surly to loose a third potency,
So theres my findings on the matter at hand, hope its helped some.
frm,
bambi.
This clone has.
YEP - altleast this one has i no of,
its a afgan pink my frien breed atleast 6 years ago, and in the 4 yrs ive known him,
hes been cloning the same cloned clone,over and over each time he harvests 4 times a year inside,
I were given a few of them to cross pollinate with another strain of my own,
my mate tells me its lost a bit of potency, not alot but enough to notice it,
it still packs a punch and has a beautifull sweet flavour of its own and is what i like about it and many many out of towners also,
he didnt mention any other traits that might have descreased, or hasnt noticed more like, - hes a greedy cloner only now. ) Lol.
And i have read on icmag magizine i think ? ages ago' , after 150 - 250 times you clone a clone like this afgani here, there surly to loose a third potency,
So theres my findings on the matter at hand, hope its helped some.
frm,
bambi.
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Mr. Nevermind
Babbabud said:
Indeed. My friend in OR has two clone only strains. Both are over 15 years old and will put your dick in the dirt
Nevermind
My experience has been that unless a clone suffers from some attack by a systemic pathogen like pytheum, which will do permant damage, they tend to stay mostly the same potency and taste over time. I imagine continued stress and envrionmental probs might also degrade the line over time too, but if youre a halfway compent grower who can keep it healthy from one grow to the next, i bet it wont change very much.
Then we have to decide if having the same great stuff around all the time is worth keeping a mama for yrs and yrs. Variety is cool!!! But there are also some great strains worth keeping as long as possible. Peace to friends
Then we have to decide if having the same great stuff around all the time is worth keeping a mama for yrs and yrs. Variety is cool!!! But there are also some great strains worth keeping as long as possible. Peace to friends
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dre86
this is a myth. If a clone is genetically 100% identical to a mother plant, how can it loose potency then? ..And since potency is genetically defined this gets copied too...
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THCV
only way the clone can lose potency is if the mom gets a virus; then all the clones off of her will have that same virus. aside from that, the mere existence of TW, "pre-98 bubba", OG Kush, and so many other clone-only strains should put this bullshit myth to bed, but somehow it persists.
R00KIE
Active member
Actually, they can and do lose potency....
But it is mainly only if the plants somewhere down the line were very sick.....
There are virus's out there that attack mj and change it's dna characteristics, therefore if you clone from that plant you will be passing on the traits of a bad clone.....
However if you can keep your plants in optimal health the cuts can and will last forever...
Best way to keep a cut around for a long time is to MUM it, and take cuttings from there....
Taking care of a mother is not hard at all, keep er watered, and fed properly and she'll reward you, let her slide and get sick and your shootin yourself in the foot....
But it is mainly only if the plants somewhere down the line were very sick.....
There are virus's out there that attack mj and change it's dna characteristics, therefore if you clone from that plant you will be passing on the traits of a bad clone.....
However if you can keep your plants in optimal health the cuts can and will last forever...
Best way to keep a cut around for a long time is to MUM it, and take cuttings from there....
Taking care of a mother is not hard at all, keep er watered, and fed properly and she'll reward you, let her slide and get sick and your shootin yourself in the foot....
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Guest
I've had blockhead around about 2 years now taking cuttings from clones and it surely hasnt lost strength or vigor.The reason for this is mainly because I took all my cuttings before switching to 12/12 starting with the original seedplant and to all clones thereafter.If I would've taken any cuttings after 12/12,even just a week or so,I wouldnt have good "veg" cuttings today.
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vonforne
SKELETOR said:
Hey Skeletor, How is that Blockhead? I just picked up some off Seedbay.
And NO clones do not loose potency.
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Guest
Its definately a special strain,extremely dense nugs, few pistils and many sugar leaves very saturated with trichromes,nice center cola with a few "satellite" cola's surrounding it.I've dropped strains like NYCD Jack Herrer SSH sour diesel multitudes of 150 dollar strains but have kept blockhead around for about 2 years now.I'm growing SS AK47 along side them it doesnt compare.The only other strain I thought was really better was Rez. sour dieselV3,but it took 80-85 days messing up my schedule pretty good lol
R00KIE
Active member
I don't think anybody here said that clones, absolutely will go bad over time.
If the plant is healthy that your taking cuttings from, the cuttings will be healthy....
But if you start taking them from unhealthy plants, you could be looking for trouble...
I've been keeping 2 strains alive for over 2 years now and absolutely no difference from the original cut..
Probably gotten better but that can be attributed to knowing the strain better..
If the plant is healthy that your taking cuttings from, the cuttings will be healthy....
But if you start taking them from unhealthy plants, you could be looking for trouble...
I've been keeping 2 strains alive for over 2 years now and absolutely no difference from the original cut..
Probably gotten better but that can be attributed to knowing the strain better..
I was a biology major the first time around in college, and clones, as a rule, don't lose potency since they are genetically the same as the mother. However, there is always bud mutation. That is where a branch's growth tip mutates- I've seen varigated trees with a branch that is normal colored and roses where a branch has produced different colored flowers than the parent bush. Those are bud mutations. When it happens in pot, the clone's growth tip mutates and usually with "extreme" plants (like our more potent pot) will take a step backward towards normalization (lower potency). I have a c-99 with a single loose budded branch while all the rest of the buds are fat and beautiful. I won't take clones from her, of course.
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Guest
Calm down Mon,"
Calm down Mon,"
Perhaps id best do just that for your sake then"
Im only going by myn and my friends experience with this ONE freakingg clone alrighty, I never said this is how it is for all cannabis did i, my mate has breed his own shit for along long time, and yea i belive him when suggested this to myself, why shouldnt i ? hes not full of shit,
of course it still has alot of grunt to it, and flavour also, remember im only talking a very very small percent here of the potencey gone, that clone there come with a fungi virus, and another white spot that ive seen on my friends clones before id gotten any also.
Not that i give a fuck really chap, im happy going by lifes experiences that dont ever lie to me and has come in very handy as ive matured in life also,
ask your friend tw for the answers, - im just a poor peasent for NZ. lojoy.
Cherry O"
banbi.
Calm down Mon,"
Babbabud said:
Perhaps id best do just that for your sake then"
Im only going by myn and my friends experience with this ONE freakingg clone alrighty, I never said this is how it is for all cannabis did i, my mate has breed his own shit for along long time, and yea i belive him when suggested this to myself, why shouldnt i ? hes not full of shit,
of course it still has alot of grunt to it, and flavour also, remember im only talking a very very small percent here of the potencey gone, that clone there come with a fungi virus, and another white spot that ive seen on my friends clones before id gotten any also.
Not that i give a fuck really chap, im happy going by lifes experiences that dont ever lie to me and has come in very handy as ive matured in life also,
ask your friend tw for the answers, - im just a poor peasent for NZ. lojoy.
Cherry O"
banbi.
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dre86
no point ^
clones DO NOT loose potency over age, it's a myth.
clones DO NOT loose potency over age, it's a myth.
NoNameNoshame
Member
Babbabud said:
I agree, gene expression is a magickly and wonderouse thing
