Tutorial DIY STS Mixing/Using Guide for Feminized Pollen/Seeds R.C.Clarke Method as Base

[TychoMonolyth]

have many male flowers but still waiting for pollen production..

I collect in a large zip bag. Small zip if it's a small plant. I start collecting once I see a couple open pollen sacs/flowers.

I put the bag over the cola, give it a couple laps upside the head, next cola. I put the bag away and repeat (using the same bag) every week until I have enough.

Every time I collect some, I flip the top of the baggie inside out to keep it open and put it on the top shelf of a closet and close the door until I collect more. That pollen has to dry. If you zip it up tight, it'll go bad in a few days.

 

[Guest]

^majorly helpful man

 

[meizzwang]

As far as I'm aware, the difference is "where" it forms. When it forms while being pressed against by female flowers... it looks like a nanner. When it forms without any female flowers pressing on it, it has freedom to ball up.

If they're not the same, I'd be extremely surprised. Otherwise, nanners forming without female flower pressure would be a common sight.

You, as well as many others in this thread, have been so helpful and informative, thank you!

Here's some lemon zkittle nanners:

I've now treated my GSC clone probably 9 times, lost track. In terms of development, it's just like that lemon zkittle plant pictured above. It's already in flower mode and resin is just starting to form on the leaves and bracts. Is it too late to continue treatment, or should I keep it up until signs of balls? It seems in my case, I should have treated them more often in the beginning, maybe every 2-3 days right after the lights got switched....or just wait and hope? It's been at least 3 weeks now since the switch. I think only 3 out of 8 different clones are showing potential signs of male organs at this stage.

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

I'd treat two different branches with different numbers of spray at this point. See which number of sprays develops the most pollen, yeah?

 

[Guest]

found my first bit of pollen today. life is about to become excellent

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

Awesome!!

 

[TychoMonolyth]

found my first bit of pollen today. life is about to become excellent

Great! Now make sure you dry it and store it well.

 

[Cvh]

Kick Off post: Test run S1 seeds created following STS procedure

Kick Off post: Test run S1 seeds created following STS procedure

Hi all,

First off I hope everyone had a great summer.

As previously promised, here is my Kick Off post about the test run I just started with the S1 seeds I recently created using the STS recipe in this thread.

(Read through the previous pages in this thread, I have done several picture updates about my completed seedrun from the start of STS application, progression, up to seed harvest. And also about my side project where I successfully reversed a plant using a single drop of STS.)

Power Plant S1 seeds created using STS:

Germination testing was 100%.

Here is a picture of a couple of obsolete germinated seeds who will sadly not be grown out further. (Sorry, I can't talk numbers).

And we have also lift off!

If all goes well, I'll do a few more updates the upcoming weeks and months about this test run and (hopefully) end results.

Cheers.

 

[CannaRed]

Awesome!
Just ordered sodium thiosulfate and silver nitrate.

Now I just need to find brown spray bottles.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

Awesome!
Just ordered sodium thiosulfate and silver nitrate.

Now I just need to find brown spray bottles.

I got mine on Amazon, but you might be able to find them in a Makeup or beauty supply store.

BTW, I made mine (about 2oz. That's a lot.) about 10 months ago, kept it in a dark cupboard, and it's still good.

 

[NEED 4 SEED]

I still struggle to convince my Chimera Cookies to turn. With every dosing or spraying time variation I have tried always the same happens: they start to form male flowers after 2-3 weeks then the pollen sacs stay stuck in the bud, compressing each other and dying there. They don't come out hanging like normal flowers do. The original female buds of these plants are already very hard and compressed, really the densest I know so I think it only lies in their physical appearance. I have really tried several times, different cuts and dosages/timings which gave no other results than what I have written. Has someone practiced a hack to let them behave like normal male flowers do? Maybe hormones for stretching or something like that? I wonder how successfull other people tried with cookies like Forum Cut, Thin Mint etc. and may share their experiences...

 

[TychoMonolyth]

Try using a dropper or qtip on a node. One or two drops NO MORE. I get the same thing as you do if I spray the flowers.

My mistake is thinking it's not working so I have to really struggle, and I mean super human strength hard, not to spray the shit out of it. All that does is give you lots of EMPTY pollen sacs.

 

[NEED 4 SEED]

Try using a dropper or qtip on a node. One or two drops NO MORE. I get the same thing as you do if I spray the flowers.

My mistake is thinking it's not working so I have to really struggle, and I mean super human strength hard, not to spray the shit out of it. All that does is give you lots of EMPTY pollen sacs.

I don't spray the flowers, as I only sprayed before or at the switchover to 12/12, but I will take your advice and start one experiment with only a few drops at the nodes.

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

I still struggle to convince my Chimera Cookies to turn. With every dosing or spraying time variation I have tried always the same happens: they start to form male flowers after 2-3 weeks then the pollen s

Sounds like a really tough beastie... just the amazing type of girl you want to reverse, actually.

Curious when you begin applying and whether you might need to start earlier and/or use a stronger mix? What I'd like you to see is **mostly** male flowers, with only a few pistils and female flowers forming. It sounds like you have mostly female flowers still forming.

Perhaps a spritz or two with 50ppm CS would help? I've read several reports where a combination of STS and CS proved to be the trick.

Also, are you using a surfactant??

 

[NEED 4 SEED]

Sounds like a really tough beastie... just the amazing type of girl you want to reverse, actually.

Curious when you begin applying and whether you might need to start earlier and/or use a stronger mix? What I'd like you to see is **mostly** male flowers, with only a few pistils and female flowers forming. It sounds like you have mostly female flowers still forming.

Perhaps a spritz or two with 50ppm CS would help? I've read several reports where a combination of STS and CS proved to be the trick.

Also, are you using a surfactant??

Yeah, she is. All the selected clones of that line are special and pretty uniform too. During the first STS runs with them I have sprayed at switchover to 12/12. The last run I sprayed at least a week before and again on the day of switching. These plants usually don't have many pistils, but yeah, the budlets still look like female flowers but with the pollen sacs inside. I will make a picture today. I have also used stronger solutions than 1:9 dilution. I think I went till 1:6. Then they looked bad. But no other outcome again.
The idea with the colloidal silver I will try if I get my head around the technique. How do I tell if the solution has 50 ppm?
But maybe the end of the road regarding selfing is almost reached with those plants being S1 of maybe another S1. A good part of the seeds became runts which wouldn't grow as the others did, which lets me think of inbreeding depression.

Yes I am using dishwashing detergent as a surfactant.

 

[NEED 4 SEED]

Hey like I told I am posting a few pics of the girl in question, she is also to be seen in my first two albums, between others, as a normal plant.

As you can see, the pollen sacs won't come out of the flower to open themselves.

I really tried strong doses over the last two years till the point of severe leaf burn but they still looked like this in the end.

When I opened the sacs only a very very small quantity of pollen was inside - which I have used to make some seeds, but only a few, which is not enough for my own preservation.

For that reason, I have crossed her and her sisters to some GDP males. Some Bogbubble males and probably also GFxBB from Chimera, will follow soon if some show up.

I will use these lines to make regular lines of these plants, via backcrossing and filial crossing and try to nail down the phenotype in bigger quantities.

Always out of fear that the clones could be lost some day.

 

[Amynamous]

Now I just need to find brown spray bottles.

I like the hydrogen peroxide spray bottles at Walmart. They are a heavy brown plastic. I use a lot of h2o2 and have the bottle for STS when it’s empty.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

Keep them suckers.

 

[meizzwang]

I still struggle to convince my Chimera Cookies to turn. With every dosing or spraying time variation I have tried always the same happens: they start to form male flowers after 2-3 weeks then the pollen sacs stay stuck in the bud, compressing each other and dying there. They don't come out hanging like normal flowers do. The original female buds of these plants are already very hard and compressed, really the densest I know so I think it only lies in their physical appearance. I have really tried several times, different cuts and dosages/timings which gave no other results than what I have written. Has someone practiced a hack to let them behave like normal male flowers do? Maybe hormones for stretching or something like that? I wonder how successfull other people tried with cookies like Forum Cut, Thin Mint etc. and may share their experiences...

With my DNH cookies cut (supposedly platinum cookies?), I tried only a few drops of 1:9 STS per growth point at first, but nothing happened after 3 weeks. After that, I sprayed aka drenched the entire plant heavily daily for more than a week (zero leaf burn BTW). In the end, it barely produced male flowers: the main growth points that were treated never turned, but one or two of the popcorn buds below did!

Thing is, I'm having the opposite results so far compared to others: it takes daily spraying for more than a week to get multiple different clones to turn. None of the plants are showing any phytotoxicity symptoms despite being drenched many, many times.

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

Hey like I told I am posting a few pics of the girl in question, she is also to be seen in my first two albums, between others, as a normal plant.

As you can see, the pollen sacs won't come out of the flower to open themselves.

Definitely looks like too strong of a solution being used.

I would try 1:20, and spray a week before flower and at flip again. If male flower production seems low after a week, I'd spray one more time.

Plant counts suck. I could have such a massive amount of data with 1000 cuts of the same plant. Ignorant legislators suck.