DIY hand watering pump

[311devon]

Wont the hose have to be longer on one side or the other to create enough pressure to keep the flow uphill?

No.
As long as the output end of the hose/pipe is lower(closer to sea level) than the input end, the position of the high point in the hose is irrelevant, except that the greater the length of section A, the stronger the pump you will need to counter the additional resistance generated by length. This is in addition the resistance generated by height. This total resistance is referred to as "head". Turns in the direction of the hose/piping also generate additional head. A pump with sufficient head pressure will be needed to overcome this. Once the hose is filled to the point where water begins to flow over the high point, gravity will take over. Flow rate will be determined by hose diameter. As long as no air is introduced on the input end the water will flow using only gravity until the supply runs out.

 

[Gizmo]

Hey Gizmo,
They say a picture is worth a thousand words. But my pitiful drawing may only be worth a few hundred words, but I hope you understand now.
You can use the drill pump to get the water flowing. Once it gets past the high point marked with a X the water will continue to flow to fill your storage container or hole in the ground.
It helps if distance A is greater than distance B if you are doing a steeper elevation gain.
I forgot to say that the storage container or hole has to be lower than the original water source.
So the water can go up but has to go to a lower point on discharge end.
It's not fast but will save batteries.

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I redid the pic to try and clarify.

all right i answered too quickly before you edit to add that the storage hole has to be lower than the original water source, its not the case in my situation so i will have to use the drill pump all the time i fill the reservoir, i read drill pump doesn't do well if the distance is too long, specially with a cordless drill i think because they have less power than a corded drill. i will have to dig my reservoir hole closer to the river i wanted.

 

[Gizmo]

if you need to pump water uphill without electricity. Check out this home made pump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzaInlFVq0s

At about 5.20 on the video you can see it in action.

The Ram pump is really amazing. More of a permanent long term solution.

Peace GG

very interesting again gg, thank you for that too.

 

[DabStar]

No.
As long as the output end of the hose/pipe is lower(closer to sea level) than the input end, the position of the high point in the hose is irrelevant, except that the greater the length of section A, the stronger the pump you will need to counter the additional resistance generated by length. This is in addition the resistance generated by height. This total resistance is referred to as "head". Turns in the direction of the hose/piping also generate additional head. A pump with sufficient head pressure will be needed to overcome this. Once the hose is filled to the point where water begins to flow over the high point, gravity will take over. Flow rate will be determined by hose diameter. As long as no air is introduced on the input end the water will flow using only gravity until the supply runs out.

Well the pic was originally showing an uphill syphon that is why i was asking about if one lenth was needed to be longer than the other to achieve such a thing.

 

[311devon]

Well the pic was originally showing an uphill syphon that is why i was asking about if one lenth was needed to be longer than the other to achieve such a thing.

.......It is not possible to siphon water only uphill. You can use a siphon to move water up and over a hill, but the output of the hose/pipe has to be at a lower point than the input. Its about the difference between the height of two different columns of water. Water runs downhill. Give it path and it finds a way. If you contain this path with a hose it will flow uphill to flow downhill.

 

[311devon]

hello GG, the water source will be approx 60-70 feet far from me on a flat distance and the water is 7 feet below my level after that, do you think its doable with a cordless drill with 2 batteries ? i need to run some test thats for sure.
any other opinions are welcome guys

Guys have used way oversized mufflers on chainsaws and 4-wheelers to tresspass and steal timber on private and public lands for years.
Use that concept here. A very small gas powered generator with a big ass muffler on it to power an electric water garden size/grade pump. Then you're using a better built pump that is made to handle the small debris a river source will have and has the head you will need to push water up a 7ft hill and across the ground 70ft....