DIY: 2 Super Simple KISS Systems

[PetFlora]

Both tents are rockin

HOT5

Lots of trics, lots of swollen calyxes

I replaced one Actinic Blue late yesterday to see whether buds fatten up even more than they are

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Phoenix is now > 39" tall. Top ft is going to be one fine cola, the rest is multi-branch/multi-bud.

I added a 50w Reptile Intense Spot for enhanced FR/DR

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[GP73LPC]

looks like you used the white balance trick also

looking good !!!

 

[PetFlora]

White balance trick? I do not know what that is. The natural color is due to the WW supplemental bulbs. She's quite reddish at the top 10" where the ufo is

 

[GP73LPC]

my bad, i forgot you were running the white leds.

looking nice

here's the trick i was talking about.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=257274

 

[PetFlora]

Temps are back up in the low 80s and expected to hit 88 in the next day or two. sucks for trics but nothing I can do. Morning temps inside the LED Tent ~ 80*s! so I have to open the flaps and use my recirculating fan throughout the day. Even with that, temps are high 70s.

HOT5 Tent

Actinic Blue Experiment

One plant has side branches on each side of the fixture, so one was getting ATI the other QF. The ATI side had more trics, but the QF side has more bulk and somewhat fatter calyxes. This morning I replaced the other ATI Actinic Blue with Quantum Flower. I may reintroduce the ATIs during the last week

LED

Buds have doubled in size since adding the Intense Spot. The lower branches were not getting much light so I added an extender and moved the Philips 17w down low

I thought the top 12" was going to be one cola, but side branches are popping right where the Intense Spot is most concentrated

 

[PetFlora]

LED News http://www.electronicproducts.com/O...EDs_deliver_best_size_light_distribution.aspx

 

[PetFlora]

There is a thread regarding how big a bucket needs to be for Bubbleponics. It has photos of 3-5 g buckets that are clogged with roots. IMO, their problem is that they are not using a big enough air pump and quality air stones. This pic is the roots from my ~40" plant in mid-flower. The container is ~ 2g. Air pump is 45 L/M

The root ball is ~ grapefruit size. Why so small? IMO it is due to the roots not getting unnecessarily saturated, sort of like if you over boil pasta it swells

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[PetFlora]

HOT5

After a week of adjusting pH and ppms in my rez it occurred to me to convert to D2W. Easy to do, just reroute the drain tube to an empty container during flower, and especially during heavy flower the plants dump high pH waste. Better to not have it recirculate, even if pH adjusted

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And since I am feeding only 3xs during lights on, with each feed/spray < 8ozs, it's easy to replenish from premixed nutes

I'm excited to see what the next week brings

LED

Changed nutes ~590. Thinking she could easily handle another 50-100watts, but according to breeder, she looks fine

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[PetFlora]

HOT5 Tent

Probably ~ 10- 15 days left

Time to cut nute ppm back by ~ half, now 340ppms

 

[xmobotx]

hot5's getting exciting then!

how far along is the LED side then? i wonder if some lower branch defoliation might have focused more stacking on the upper buds and made it match your expectations? i say that because there are a lot of flower sites and they mostly seem to be stacking pretty good! like i said earlier i do like that branching structure ~i can see a badass scrog'n plant in there

 

[rootidec]

There is a thread regarding how big a bucket needs to be for Bubbleponics. It has photos of 3-5 g buckets that are clogged with roots. IMO, their problem is that they are not using a big enough air pump and quality air stones. This pic is the roots from my ~40" plant in mid-flower. The container is ~ 2g. Air pump is 45 L/M

The root ball is ~ grapefruit size. Why so small? IMO it is due to the roots not getting unnecessarily saturated, sort of like if you over boil pasta it swells

that's good info pet
I wonder if you can say something similar about soil? That is, I wonder why some get rootbound, while some others - well, I'm thinking i.e. of the yogurt cup challenge.

 

[PetFlora]

rootidec- plants need ample nutrients to grow and flower. The smaller the container the more it stunts a plants ability to develop and ultimately, to bud. Waste of time

XM, here are lower branch photos from Phoenix in my LED tent


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[PetFlora]

HOT5 Tent

Thanks to some cooler weather, this tent is finishing lot faster than I thought it would earlier this week. So, I replaced the other Quantum Flower (bulb post #4) with a Wave Point Coral Wave, which, in addition to a strong blue 400-430 (similar to the ATI Actinic Blue, but dipping to 380) also has FR/DR (660-780)

 

[PetFlora]

HOT5 Maybe 5- 10 days left

PPMs reduced to ~ 300

Light reduced to 11 hours

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[xmobotx]

yeah i would say you could potentially benefit from some lolli-popping

~this from a guy who isnt much for pruning though {and i wouldnt be too aggro about it either}

 

[PetFlora]

Note the changes in both tents in 2 short days

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[xmobotx]

which speaks to leaving those lower leaves eh?

lol; idk because i have done both and what i think is you just get fewer bigger buds lollipop'n and i kinda like them 1 hit buds

if i ever weighed maybe i would know/whats the fun in that?

 

[PetFlora]

? I trim all older leafs below the second nodes

 

[PetFlora]

HOT5 Tent

Since cutting watering frequency back to 1/24hrs most pistils have turned red. (It only took me 2 grows to figure that out.)
That missing link, especially during the last 1/4 of flowering sets it apart from my LED tent, which is DWC, so I can't push/pull with the fert cycle.
Probably < 5 days to harvest

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[PetFlora]

Here's shot of my 4 clones- the 2 monsters were taken a week before and are overshadowing the later 2 so much you can't even see them.

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