Designated Growers Corner

[teemu shalanie]

speculation

speculation

let's keep in mind no one knows how this is actually going to play out not even health canada or leona whatsherface.. speculation is just futile..

 

[med-man]

dont say anything, but it turns out my new girlfriends dad will be in charge and the head of the commercial grow op division of the federal government i found out yesterday. looks like i am going to propose soon lol, fate never seems to have a great sense of humor / irony lol...

turns out it has been the topics of topics at his work place. so it looks like the proposals will be most definite to those who are not a part of the program already. as his job has been assigned already...

med-maker

 

[longearedfriend]

so licenses are ending... as in they are not gonna make new ones or are they gonna scrap the old program ?

 

[Green Supreme]

Yes. I am pretty sure it is mentioned extensively in this and other threads in the Canada forum. Peace GS

 

[med-man]

5 years ago an end was already in the works. with a plan to grandfather the folks already licensed. that is one of the biggest problems of the discourse of this unregulated industry,

med-maker

 

[Lastdon]

I thought the government was going out of the marijuana business, and having it for private citizens, and Corps. Sounds interesting. How will grandfathering work, as to dg's and PPL's

dont say anything, but it turns out my new girlfriends dad will be in charge and the head of the commercial grow op division of the federal government i found out yesterday. looks like i am going to propose soon lol, fate never seems to have a great sense of humor / irony lol...

turns out it has been the topics of topics at his work place. so it looks like the proposals will be most definite to those who are not a part of the program already. as his job has been assigned already...

med-maker

 

[VagPuncher]

dont say anything, but it turns out my new girlfriends dad will be in charge and the head of the commercial grow op division of the federal government i found out yesterday. looks like i am going to propose soon lol, fate never seems to have a great sense of humor / irony lol...

turns out it has been the topics of topics at his work place. so it looks like the proposals will be most definite to those who are not a part of the program already. as his job has been assigned already...

med-maker

'Don't say anything'

Posts it on an online forum.

Come on, MedMan.

 

[c-ray]

it's ok we (the internet) can keep a secret..

 

[med-man]

i meant about the new regs, not my sex life you pervs lol,

med-maker

 

[c-ray]

just a tip, you might want to actually acquire the med-maker.ca domain name before promoting it..

 

[longearedfriend]

the c in canada stand for control

 

[chefboy6969]

all i got to say is you are a joker and fake....med-maker.ca...I read some of your posts,,,so you have been busted before...and you expect to get a government commercial licence HAHA keep dreaming maybe move to Colorado or Washington

Seriously why do people even try to pretend


peace
Chefboy

 

[c-ray]

from http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/03/06/...medical-pot-production-to-agricultural-areas/

Maple Ridge City council moves to push medical pot production to agricultural areas
by The Canadian Press on Wednesday, March 6, 2013 7:52am -

VANCOUVER – A metro Vancouver district council is moving to nip a problem in the bud by regulating where medical marijuana can be grown.

A newly drafted Maple Ridge, B.C., bylaw proposes that commercial medical marijuana production be permitted only in agricultural zones in an effort to stop marijuana growth in residential areas.

The bylaw attempts to address issues that can come with residential grow operations such as electrical fires, waste, environmental concerns and the drug’s diversion into the illegal market.

Commercial marijuana facilities would face the same building restrictions as other pungent industries such as pig farms or mushroom barns, with requirements to be at least 30 metres from rear lot lines and 60 metres from front lot lines.

Grow operations would also need to be at least 200 metres away from any elementary or secondary school due to on-going odour complaints of residential growers operating too close to schools.

District planner Diana Hall said it’s believed that Maple Ridge is the first district in B.C. to draft a bylaw of this nature.

“The sense is that there have been a fair number of problems associated with this use in other areas, even industrial, because you’ve got a multi-tenanted structure. It can cause problems,” said Hall, who drafted the bylaw.

“The thought is that locating it in an agricultural zone will be an improvement.”

The draft bylaw presented to council members this week, said the changes would be timely because “recent history has revealed the potential adverse health and safety, social, environmental and law-enforcement implications of marijuana production in the community. However, if this use is directed into appropriate zones, with the requirement of appropriate security measures, these impacts may be minimized.”

The bylaw has yet to be voted on by council, but Hall is confident it will pass and make it to the public hearing stage.

“I don’t know how the rest of the community will respond, of course,” she said.

In the wake of rapid changes to federal marijuana legislation — the current system of existing personal-use licenses — many logistics of the bylaw have yet to be sorted out.

The bylaw is in anticipation of a summer 2014 change when federal licenses handed out for medical-grow facilities are expected to be geared toward large-scale, rather than personal, production.

But Craig Speirs, a former Maple Ridge councillor, believes the municipal government is overreacting to having some control after years of medical cannabis growers being left to their own devices.

“They treat it like, ‘oh all these people want to do is get high,’ and they don’t understand the dynamics at play and the amount this industry is going to grow, in all meanings of the word.”

Speirs said a lot of sick people on medical marijuana are broke, and the added financial burden of not being able to grow their own medicine could have a pronounced impact on their lives.

“The people who are actually most affected will be hurt as usual.”

He also disagrees with the limitation to agricultural zones.

“If you want things to be secure, you don’t isolate them. You bring them out into the middle where there are a lot of eyes on the street, and where there’s a lot of ability to apply security options,” he said.

“It’s an industrial thing, really. It could easily exist within an industrial area and create more economic activity than anything else happening in that industrial area. And jobs.”

Before commercial licensing is a reality, Health Canada may give permission to growers to do research and development on marijuana crops.

“(People) couldn’t just start growing, they’d have to get federal approval for anything to do with it. At the research and development stage, they’d have to get approval from Health Canada,” said Hall.

“We stipulated throughout the bylaw, ‘the commercial production of medicinal marijuana as authorized under federal legislation,’ so it’s only what’s authorized under federal legislation.”

 

[Buds Bundy]

just a tip, you might want to actually acquire the med-maker.ca domain name before promoting it..

Why would anyone get a domain with a - in it med-maker.ca when the proper medmaker.ca is available?

 

[chefboy6969]

Why would anyone get a domain with a - in it med-maker.ca when the proper medmaker.ca is available?

because who ever this person is they have their head in the clouds....

peace
Chefboy

 

[c-ray]

from http://www.thenownewspaper.com/health/Weed+whacked/8061853/story.html

Weed whacked
Auto repair shop owner says legal grow-op next door is smoking him out

By Jacob Zinn, Now March 7, 2013

Surrey business owner Tamer Salloum has had it with the legal medical marijuana grow-op next door to his auto repair shop after a recent flood caused by the grow-op damaged his business and his reputation.

Last December, Salloum, who owns Speedpro High Performance, was told by his landlord that a cabinet manufacturer was moving into the neighbouring unit of his business complex, but something just didn't smell right.

"I noticed that they were building these greenhouses inside the units," said Salloum. "Right away, I knew it was a grow-op."

Salloum said he notified the city, the developer and the strata council, but nothing was done until a major leak put his business in jeopardy. In early February, a water tank burst at the grow-op, causing a flood that damaged the wall between the two units at 8675 130th St.

"My employee came to work early one day and he phones me up and he's like, 'You're never going to believe what happened here - I'm standing in water,'" said Salloum, who then raced to his shop and found water two inches deep collecting on the floor.

He called 911 and the fire department and drug task force responded. Salloum said several employees of the grow-op were questioned and released, but because they had permits for at least 1,060 plants in the 20,000-square-foot facility, the cops couldn't do anything.

Currently, there isn't a system to map out all the medical marijuana grow-ops in Surrey for emergency services.

"We have no indication of where they are, other than the ones that we stumble upon through our electrical fire safety team doing inspections," said Surrey deputy fire chief Dan Barnscher. "Because of disclosure issues, Health Canada is not willing to release the locations of them."

Barnscher added that the City of Surrey submitted a Freedom of Information request to Health Canada and found that there are more than 740 medicinal licences issued within Surrey.

"Of those 740 licences, there are approximately 540 locations attached to those licences where they are cultivating medicinal marijuana," he said.

"If Health Canada doesn't go ahead and tell the municipalities where these grow-ops are being set up, how is anyone supposed to ever know?" asked Salloum.

Additionally, Salloum said he has lost business as a result of the flood. The smell of marijuana wafted into his business, giving customers the impression that he and his employees smoke marijuana.

"I did have a few customers email me and say that they were refusing to do business at my shop because A: when they picked up their vehicles, it smelled like marijuana and they had to get them detailed - which now I have to compensate them for - and B: that they didn't want potheads working on their cars," he said. "That really affected my business and my reputation."

Furthermore, Salloum claims the complex has lost insurance because of the grow-op.

"Now we have no insurance, my building's damaged, my reputation's damaged and these guys are going to pretty much get away with it," he said.

New federal legislation, set to take effect next April, aims to better regulate medical marijuana grow-ops and dispensaries, though it's unclear if Health Canada will require growers to make local governments, fire departments and police aware of their locations.

The legislation also confines medical marijuana grow-ops to one zone. The grow-op facility is currently zoned for industrial use, but with city council's recent approval of a bylaw amendment that would force all medical marijuana grow-ops into C-8B community commercial zones, the grow-op owners will have to rezone the property before April 1, 2014, if they plan to keep growing there.

However, Salloum said that even with fire and electrical safety inspections pending on the grow-op, he doubts the growers will be forced out.

"I'm not confident in the system at all," he said. "Everyone's told me that their hands are tied and because they have federal backing that there's not a lot they can do until a judge actually mandates that federal licensing has to comply with municipal and provincial bylaws."

But Barnscher said that while the growers are federally licensed, they have not obtained permits from the city to allow the grow-up under Surrey's medical marijuana bylaw.

"We're moving that they shut down all their cultivation of medicinal marijuana as they're in non-compliance of our medicinal marijuana bylaw that's in place with the city," he said.

Attempts to reach the grow-op owners for comment were unsuccessful.

 

[c-ray]

from http://www.thespec.com/news/crime/a...members-busted-in-medicinal-marijuana-grow-op

Nicole O'Reilly
Thu Mar 07 2013

Gravelle family members busted in "medicinal marijuana" grow-op

Andre Gravelle leaves the Sopinka Courthoouse in 2006
after murder charges against him were withdrawn in the
unsolved slayings of Lynn and Fred Gilbank
Sheryl Nadler


RCMP and Hamilton police have laid a number of charges, including being part of a criminal organization, against members of the notorious Gravelle family and associates for “egregious exploitation” of Health Canada’s medical marijuana program.

Police allege the group, which also includes a lawyer for the family, schemed to disguise a profitable marijuana grow operation as legitimate medical marijuana.

They amassed a “substantial number” of licences and distributed the drugs as far away as Newfoundland, police allege.

Kingpin André Gravelle, 48, has been in jail since November 2012 after having his parole suspended. RCMP passed on information during the process of the marijuana investigation.

Gravelle is serving a sentence of three years and 10 months for conspiracy to import hash oil and conspiracy to possess hash oil for the purpose of trafficking stemming from a $15-million, international hash oil smuggling ring busted in Nova Scotia in September 2008.

He was released on parole in November 2010. His sentence ends Feb. 13, 2014.

The 12 people arrested during the latest bust face charges of participation in a criminal organization, conspiracy to traffic in a controlled substance, production of a controlled substance, possession for the purpose of trafficking a controlled substance, trafficking a controlled substances, obstruction of justice, false pretences, counseling to commit an indictable offence, and failure to comply with a probation order.

Charged are:

•Andre Gravelle, 49, of Hamilton
•Daniel Gravelle, 56, of Hamilton
•Andre Leo Gravelle, 20, of Hamilton
•Ruth Ann Gravelle Finlayson, 41, of Hamilton
•Ira Greenspoon, 56, of Hamilton
•Bruce Keener, 54, of Hamilton
•Bradley Huffman, 42, of Hamilton
•Joseph Cuvelier, 48, of Hamilton
•Lawrence Mulholland, 49, of Hamilton
•Ronald Welch, 55, of Hamilton
•Selina Osmond, 33, of Hamilton
•Jeff Dzenekoj, 37, of Hamilton

 

[chefboy6969]

This is an example of WHY...the government has changed its regulations....just one of many reasons...Collecting licences and growing for the purpose of making PROFIT....not too help sick people get their medicine, a very sad world we live in

peace
Chefboy

 

[maximum]

Great now the new rules will make it easier for gangsters to drop some cash and have MASSIVE legal grow ops in huge facilities.

 

[c-ray]

from http://www.prairiedogmag.com/?p=54170

Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:48:08 PM

WCB Considers Funding Medical Marijuana For Client


by Gregory Beatty

Here’s a link to a news brief I did last May concerning a struggle Carey Heilman and his pro bono lawyer Nicole Sarauer are waging against the Saskatchewan Workers’ Compensation Board.

Heilman suffers from debilitating back pain, and for several years he has used marijuana to alleviate his suffering. Typically, the WCB funds medical treatments that injured workers undergo to either improve their health and reenter the work force in some capacity, or to live as actively and comfortably as possible if the injury is long-term. But when Heilman applied to have the cost of the cannabis that he obtains from a licensed grower under Health Canada regulations covered the WCB said no.

With the aid of Sarauer, Heilman sued the WCB in Queen’s Bench court. In granting Heilman a rehearing at the WCB, the judge said it hadn’t executed its administrative duty properly. In making its decision, the judge said, the WCB had relied excessively on its standard medical position on medical marijuana without considering Heilman’s situation specifically.

The rehearing was held earlier today at the WCB office on the second floor of Hill Tower II. At Nicole and Carey’s invitation I intended to sit in on the hearing and see how things went. But when I showed up at the appointed time I was told by a WCB official that in order to protect Heilman’s privacy as a WCB client I would not be allowed to attend the hearing.

I could’ve argued, obviously. Your client is expressly granting me permission to attend his hearing. Why would you feel the need to protect his privacy by excluding me?

The Queen’s Bench judgment opened the door to Sauerer and Heilman presenting updated scientific evidence on the medicinal benefits of cannabis, and the positive impact it’s had on Heilman’s health as documented by Heilman and his doctor. In provinces like Ontario, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick WCBs fund medical marijuana for clients. I wanted to sit in on the hearing so I could see if the WCB officials were really engaged with what Saurer and Heilman were saying, or if they were just going through the motions to comply with the court ruling and then would render the same “blanket policy” verdict as the first time.

In Heilman’s case, none of the typical WCB issues are at stake. There’s no argument that he isn’t entitled to coverage under the WCB Act for a workplace injury. Rather, the issue is whether he and his medication provider are entitled to be reimbursed for the several thousand dollars of marijuana that he’s consumed to date to control his pain, and his future marijuana use to keep his pain at bay. So really the issue is societal in scope as a lot of other sick and injured people who might benefit from cannabis as Heilman has done are potentially impacted.

Right now the WCB has no problem paying for traditional pharmaceuticals for clients for pain relief and other uses. Some, like oxycontin, are opiates and are highly addictive. If you use them as a WCB client and become addicted, the WCB will pay for you to undergo detox. But it won’t fund marijuana, which is increasingly being regarded as a wonder drug that is (i) non-addictive (ii) inexpensive and easily grown and (iii) effective in treating conditions like nausea, anxiety, glaucoma, multiple sclerosis, pain and many more.

Whack, I know. But hopefully when the WCB releases its ruling in a few months they’ll see the light and do what’s right.