Dequilo Grows some Autos outside 2024 last time win or die !

[Dequilo]

Thanks for the tip I will keep an eye out for it I burn Sulfur if needed

grateful to follow along

nice to have you enjoy and please add the things you see always learning

be safe and grow well

Dequilo

 

[Old Uncle Ben]

Playing ball with Rudy I see. Plants look great, best of luck. You've got plenty of time outdoors to make good!

 

[cbotany]

Thanks for the tip I will keep an eye out for it I burn Sulfur if needed


nice to have you enjoy and please add the things you see always learning

be safe and grow well

Dequilo

I've only heard of that with apples, does it effect the flower?

 

[Old Uncle Ben]

Lots of good fungicides out there. I have 2 copper systemics I won't hesitate to use on weed, both are copper sulfate pentahydrate chemistries labeled for consumables. Magnabon CS2005 and Phyton 35. Research what commercial tobacco growers use or plant only those varieties that are resistant and tend to have open buds - Thai, Indian, Mex, Colombian.

 

[Dequilo]

Lots of good fungicides out there.

there many indeed

I have 2 copper systemics I won't hesitate to use on weed

you know me I have been in the trade for years sometimes it not what you use it is when you use

GMO corn has the ability to survive with 5 % roundup in the plant and corn sugar is everywhere

and we eat it or drink

go figure

 

[Calle Minogue]

autos seem to collect fungi like a magnet

That’s why I never grew any auto at my latitude again. It’s more or less the same with you NY guys.


Non the less interesting approach here and I will take a seat

 

[Old Uncle Ben]

there many indeed


you know me I have been in the trade for years sometimes it not what you use it is when you use

GMO corn has the ability to survive with 5 % roundup in the plant and corn sugar is everywhere

and we eat it or drink

go figure

I use glyphosate, a lot of it....for about 30 years or so. 1.5 oz/gallon of the 41% for general burn down on the farm now. Not sure about that 5% solution spray plus it has a very short half life. Microbes actually feed on it. It works by screwing around with plants' amino acids and has no affect on other creatures' amino acid processes. https://schoolipm.tamu.edu/files/2022/05/Glyphosate-092018.pdf

"...... all released findings of their assessments later in 2015, 2016 and 2018. Based on the
most currently available research, these agencies have all concluded that glyphosate was unlikely to pose a carcinogenic risk to humans"

Everyone is trying to hit the RoundUp lotto.

 

[Marz]

Just if you are the only one using it.

Since whole food industry also uses it as well, it is a carcinogenic and dangerous for human and animal health.
No structured organic system allows the use of this substance, which is not dangerous when ingested in small quantities. But it's everywhere.
Its ok just if you grow everything you eat and don't use it there.

Toxic Effects of Glyphosate on the Nervous System: A Systematic Review - PMC

Glyphosate, a non-selective systemic biocide with broad-spectrum activity, is the most widely used herbicide in the world. It can persist in the environment for days or months, and its intensive and large-scale use can constitute a major ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[dogzter]

as much as I would like to pop a haze cross I have I will resist so tomorrow I will plant

poppies

I am floundering the poppies this run.
Tried the fridge for six weeks and still nothing germed.
Maybe my seeds are too old now,idk.
Super weird I can openly grow opium poppies but still gotta hide tne cannabis from public eye.

Good luck!

 

[dogzter]

I use glyphosate, a lot of it....for about 30 years or so. 1.5 oz/gallon of the 41% for general burn down on the farm now. Not sure about that 5% solution spray plus it has a very short half life. Microbes actually feed on it. It works by screwing around with plants' amino acids and has no affect on other creatures' amino acid processes. https://schoolipm.tamu.edu/files/2022/05/Glyphosate-092018.pdf

"...... all released findings of their assessments later in 2015, 2016 and 2018. Based on the
most currently available research, these agencies have all concluded that glyphosate was unlikely to pose a carcinogenic risk to humans"

Everyone is trying to hit the RoundUp lotto.

One of my brothers died from it.
His widow and children got a huge payout but doesn't replace what they lost........not much of a lottery.

 

[cbotany]

That’s why I never grew any auto at my latitude again. It’s more or less the same with you NY guys.


Non the less interesting approach here and I will take a seat

I've been selecting and now my autos only get mold onto dead growth or finished seeds

 

[Old Uncle Ben]

One of my brothers died from it.
His widow and children got a huge payout but doesn't replace what they lost........not much of a lottery.

Not buying that story. No one I know has had any ill effects from using generic glyphosate or Round-Up and that includes me. The science is there. It's been the most studied herbicide on the market. Read my link.

 

[Old Uncle Ben]

Just if you are the only one using it.

Since whole food industry also uses it as well, it is a carcinogenic and dangerous for human and animal health.
No structured organic system allows the use of this substance, which is not dangerous when ingested in small quantities. But it's everywhere.
Its ok just if you grow everything you eat and don't use it there.

Toxic Effects of Glyphosate on the Nervous System: A Systematic Review - PMC

Glyphosate, a non-selective systemic biocide with broad-spectrum activity, is the most widely used herbicide in the world. It can persist in the environment for days or months, and its intensive and large-scale use can constitute a major ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Other than the "may" and "can" "scientific word salad derivatives" this is the kind of crap you find in such studies. Those studies never detail how much, when, etc. Yeah, if you're an idiot and don't follow label instructions....... Same can be said for millions of beneficial chemicals Hell, inhaling Aunt Jemima's Buttermilk mix can induce lung problems. Smoking pot infected with mold spores is dangerous to your health.

"3.1.1. Descriptive and Analytical Studies
Although most of studies in humans mainly describe the consequences of glyphosate poisoning after suicide attempts, it appears that occupational or chronic exposure to this pesticide (via inhalation and dermal routes) may also cause neurotoxic effects."

What the hell does "chronic" mean?

Oh the drama......

Sorry Dequilo, but you brought it up!

Let's see some pot porn, eh!

 

[Dequilo]

Round-Up

Bayer ( IG Farben ) bought them? the makers of Zyklon B

 

[Dequilo]

Sorry Dequilo, but you brought it up!

no worries UB you and I go way back

 

[dogzter]

Not buying that story. No one I know has had any ill effects from using generic glyphosate or Round-Up and that includes me. The science is there. It's been the most studied herbicide on the market. Read my link.

I will let them know next time they come up.
He died from non Hodgkin's lymphoma and was in the nursery industry.
You have zero idea what you are talking about.

 

[cbotany]

Honestly, most chemicals no matter how minute effect the body in some way, do we know and understand how glyphosate acts on the body, I'd say no, Uncleben isn't trying to push something he feels is harmful, glyposate is amazing for farming, and I understand why it is used after manually weed pulling for years, I don't use it but it is by choice, Dogzter, I feel horrible that you have a family member with damage from the use of herbicides, reactions do occur and they are silenced, nothing is completely safe, and most of us are choosing the lesser of two evils daily, It is NOT my place to speak on either of your behalf, but I think civil discourse and understanding builds community, and the purpose of this forum is for that. Building community of growers of cannabis internationally. I think this auto grow is going to be pretty cool to follow and again not my place, but i feel civil discourse with disagreements is the best way to move forward. If the op (who has offered me generously ) before would like to reach out, I'd like to donate some male/female seeds to this goal, and help see everyone succeed! Cheers (pretty gassed up while typing all this)

 

[buteo]

What are those autos up to? They a bit bigger today than they were yesterday? xD

 

[Old Uncle Ben]

I will let them know next time they come up.
He died from non Hodgkin's lymphoma and was in the nursery industry.
You have zero idea what you are talking about.

The hell I don't. For starts I have a Texas Pesticide Applicator license. You're leaving out a bunch of factors that can't be verified on this forum. Let's begin with his name, nursery tenure, ect. OK?

Again, I'm not buying some stoner internet story. I've used this stuff for years and will continue. Folks that post bullshit such as this have never touched the stuff much less even read the product label.

 

[cbotany]

The hell I don't. For starts I have a Texas Pesticide Applicator license. You're leaving out a bunch of factors that can't be verified on this forum. Let's begin with his name, nursery tenure, ect. OK?

Again, I'm not buying some stoner internet story. I've used this stuff for years and will continue. Folks that post bullshit such as this have never touched the stuff much less even read the product label.

I've touched the stuff, and live in a rural agricultural community where most people die of cancer or some weirdness, I've sprayed Malathion, Captan, I have a good amount of college credit in greenhouse management, and If you'd like to have more information on my qualifications you can just ask. https://deohs.washington.edu/edge/blog/can-roundup-cause-cancer Glyphosate being a good broad spectrum herbicide is true, but there are effects after repeated and acute exposure. There is MAJOR harm to rural communities not just from Glyphosate, but herbicides, pesticides, and fungicides, go to a hospice in a tobacco producing region and ask what the farmers did/used. I don't think people are equipped to use other means of farming currently, so most people just shake hands with the devil down here just to get by.