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Delicatessen Seeds experiences

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Hi Jhhnn!One is pretty lanky and stretchier with the most uncontrollable branching I've ever seen in my short growing carreer.The other more sturdy but still branchy.These girls are for scrogging ...
Pic from a few days back
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smac17

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Ty for the reply but like i said i had hermies with regs, and mâles with fems...and the germ rate is very poor. I think it's important to say it because when reading this thread it seems à perfect seedbank. It is not, i tried karma, gage green,ace,cannabiogen,dinafem ans dna...never expérienced smthg like this. I'm an horticulturalist so i think i know à lil'bit what i'm doing with plants. So disappointed😭
 
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Hey smac17!I 've had my issues with QM,but not as severe as you are describing,I would be devastated ,too.
To be precise,out of the 6 seeds(fem) ,2 were runts,two didn't germ and one became a fantastic plant,very beautiful with a very special high and taste.Got one more.I was lucky to have ordered them directly from ace and they replaced the pack with any delicatessen strain I wanted,so I picked first lady.So I didn't bother much.(now i would pick QM again cause I miss her!).The her majesties didn't have problems germinating ,neither did the first lady.I got still Lilly to try.From my little experience with those strains ,they seem unique and the terpene palette is very different than your run of the mill dutch hybrids.I would like to explore them some more. :)
 

Chrondiddle O

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I'll germ my EDY and first lady seeds soon as I am ditching a handful of mums.
I'll report back here with details of germ rate on these OD seeds which I recently acquired from CBGs website,let's see.
 

BruceBanner

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Smac17 is right, I also had poor germ rate and seed vigor on Lilly, had also QM and both were mediocre weed, either there is too much hype in this forum or those people never tried good weed, and Delicatessen isn't the only seed bank here whose plants are hyped...

Now I have one Alice and Upstream started to flower, Upstream was a heavy runt, but I never discard runts, now she is the same size as Alice and no one would tell it was a runt.
 
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baduy

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Maybe there was a mix up with seeds, or with the femming process, the other stuff has been fine so far.
Actually I had vigor (Alice) anf germ issues(1st Lady) with OD fem seeds
100% germination rate and great vigor with QM regular seeds though
Seems like there is a problem with their feminizing process indeed
 

Jhhnn

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Hi Jhhnn!One is pretty lanky and stretchier with the most uncontrollable branching I've ever seen in my short growing carreer.The other more sturdy but still branchy.These girls are for scrogging ...
Pic from a few days back
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Thanks, Syd. I'm too lazy to scrog & hope mine aren't too floppity. I don't even top mine but just trim away lower stuff to avoid larf. I like to see how they grow naturally. I'm mostly exploring different genetics just to see what's out there in terms of taste & effect. I've never tried bud of the congolese or zamal persuasions so QM looked like a decent way to do that. I doubt I'll find them in any of the shops, either.
 

oldbootz

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or those people never tried good weed

Good weed is very subjective. Not only to growing conditions but what a person expects from it. These varieties do not contain skunk and afghan which carry the traits that most people would consider "good weed". A smoke that is not dripping in sweet terpines and doesn't give a heavy stone is often called mediocre. From what I have read that was not the breeding objective of this seedbank. They were aiming for the type of high that could be of assistance psychologically, and with a quick flowering time.
 

Jhhnn

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Good weed is very subjective. Not only to growing conditions but what a person expects from it. These varieties do not contain skunk and afghan which carry the traits that most people would consider "good weed". A smoke that is not dripping in sweet terpines and doesn't give a heavy stone is often called mediocre. From what I have read that was not the breeding objective of this seedbank. They were aiming for the type of high that could be of assistance psychologically, and with a quick flowering time.

Lots of people just want to get zonked & their taste in weed reflects that. They often value potency above other considerations. They like a strong analgesic effect as well. I can grow for that but I'm looking for... I dunno what to call it other than emotional helium, a positive attitude adjustment with mental clarity. I read an interview with Mario Bellande, the breeder, who said that's part of what he tried to achieve with QM.

So, the girls will be ready early February & I'll be taking them for a spin after drying & curing for a month or so after that...
 

BruceBanner

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Oldbootz you are not a clairvoyant so don't act like one insulting people with your false and paradoxical assuming, in my book all those things you have counted have nothing to do with good weed, it's the opposite and I was talking about that.

https://imgur.com/a/RTZP1
 
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Koondense

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Not either said where you got the seeds.
Usually something like this(lots of hermies, males etc) happens with someone messing up something, usually the seller selling badly reproduced seeds, labeled as originals.
Or maybe a seed run went untested or who knows... in any case there should be more available infos about it, primarily to find the cause of such problems and to possibly avoid bad seeds.
My case is very positive, I only got one Her Majesty fem seed to pop and out came a very vigorous plant with good production of good bud with a good effect. Fem as should be, zero male parts, roots and clones great, running her again.

Cheers
 

BruceBanner

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BruceBanner you still haven't given us any description of why you think its mediocre weed.

It should be obvious, if I'm not into that kind of weed you assumed, what remains? Smell, taste etc. are just a bonus, I don't take that in consideration, for me only thing that matters is the effect that should be sativaish and good, not mediocre, till now all breeders hyped strains I've tried were mediocre, yes better than street weed you can find nowadays, but that's it, there is no wow effect.

Now I have Alice and Upstream (from left to right, third is SugarLoaf) gonna see if they are better, if not, I'm done with buying breeders stuff (except for some pure sativa strains), better to concentrate on finding old domestic seeds...

 

baduy

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Maybe you need a tolerance break. Many of my friends grow seeds found in commercial weed and I'm yet to find an outstanding sativa effect from those accidental seeds. what I'm wondering is, while I agree with you on the vigor of some fem lines, how many specimen of each strain have you grown? I wouldn't be too definitive before knowing at least 4 different plants of a said varietal grown from seeds.
I only grew 2 small Lilly for instance and had 2 great sweet pineapple smelling plants of good potency,not the clearest high, more foggy than Queen Mother but much more enjoyable than a skunk/NL hybrid. There is no way I can know what you would think of those but I doubt you would call them mediocre so I will assume I had a lucky hand
 

BruceBanner

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Thanks for flattering :D
I don't know, but street weed 18 years back had grail qualities comparing to these modern strains I've grown, and almost all of it was good, and real grails were not so hard to find, even green and not dried enough could launch you into another dimension, and I didn't get that even near from those breeder ones 3+ months aged, even cobbing didn't help...Tolerance is not the issue ...

Can't remember now but about 3 or 4 Lilly seeds had germ problems and/or lack of vigor so they didn't make it, or even more, one Upstream also...

QM I have regulars and planted just one with no problems, here she is all bud lol


She tricked me into believing she was a male, so I cut one branch for space and fuked up, she was the slowest to show gender, but the fastest flowering one


Lilly bushy because I bend/crush branches on daily basis, and she smelled like pina colada for real



 
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baduy

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In my neck of the woods black market weed of the late nineties was very potent but too much dutch afghan or skunk dominance for my today's liking, the only fast sativa line from this time I really miss is silver pearl, although she could bring you to sleep if you overindulged
 

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