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defficiency or burn?

MynameStitch

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Johny: that pH is fine if your using a soiless mixture; your pH can range from 5.5 to 6.3.

The best range is 5.5 to 5.8 range; a 6.0 range will not cause the problems you are having, unless the pH you have given is not accurate.

Ya, I noticed that too; but that is not caused by the pH; Ph would affect not the upper part of the plant; it happens around the lower to mid section of the plant; the oldest leaves that have been in the mixture.

This is caused by something else; either keeping a high amount of moisture on the leaves in that area; or the plant does not like the heat it's getting; a warm heat causing not cupping but a droopiness look to it.

If it's got moisture stress; then your not letting the bottom of the pot dry up enough. Overwatering can affect oner part of the plant when they are bigger and it's normally either the whole plant which is more common; but if you are not letting the bottom dry out enough your plants will cup like that looking like moisture stress.

Soil dries out in stages when you have enough perlite in there and that your mixture is not cheap.

Cheap soil holds in more moisture around certain areas and others dry as a bone.
Mixtures that are good and have enough perlite will dry out in 3 stages;
Upper,middle and lower parts; if the top parts of the plant is being affected; the very bottom mid to lower part is being kept a little too moist; that is a possibility.

How often are you watering and how much are you watering?
Because if you do overwater your plants; nitrogen gets absorbed less in the soil and can cause a problem like this; bigger plants can sit in water a bit longer without showing signs of moisture stress like small plants; so nitrogen deficiencies can be masked when the real problem is over watering; but in this situation it looks to me it's more of it needs some more rather than over watering, but the lower part of the soil may be staying a bit moist.
 

MynameStitch

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Depends on what size pots they are in, but watering every 5 to 7 days should not be a problem........
 

johnyhash

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they got that flush when they wherent dry so thats probally contributing factor aswell i think they could have dried more in the past.
 

MynameStitch

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Nope, not burned; just a nitrogen problem you got going.

And when you flush your plants you wash out nutrients from the soil, so your nitrogen problem will get a little worse and the affected leaves won't recover, but it will stop if you have fixed the problem, it won't spread; so give your plants 1/2 the amount of nitrogen you gave them in veg and use it every time you use your bloom fert up until 2 weeks before harvest
 

moonymonkey

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one thing the plants having a problem,not feeling well,so she dont need alot of water,def. reduce the amont,by a cup at a time until plant uses that amont fast.also move top layer of soil around to help take up the moisture better.mm
 

moonymonkey

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wud not feed right now,cuz of all the water,from h flushing,she wont drink,shem she sure wont feed,until she taking up the water at a faster rate....then its all how she growing...im not expert ..imo....no horn tuting here :nono: just trying to help...peace mooon/
 

MynameStitch

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No, do not mess with the top layer of soil with the plants this size; you can mess up root hairs and even mess with the tap root by shifting top layers of soil, so that imo is not a good idea.

his plants would never live on 1 cup of water at a time, plants are too big.

But his plants are most defiantly over watered; so I would just foliar feed the affected leaves with nitrogen only.

another thing like I said nitrogen gets locked out in soggy soils; so your nitrogen is not getting absorbed from the moisture in the pots.
 

johnyhash

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thanks stitch i agree i feel way better knowing wuts up in the garden. a couple plants that didnt get flushed recieved full strength the other day and they look very green.
 

johnyhash

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hey stitch the plants are taking soo long to dry ive increased the temps abit to hopefully dry em. but my question is wut range of ppm would u feed these deffecient plants that are between week four and five. i bumped it up to ppm of 1200 with extra nitrogen in the mix and some plants are not responding just getting worse although thier are some plants that are perfect. also when feeding organic do you measure ppm's? is thier a way to acuratly get the results of organic food.?
 
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