Deep Chunk

[revegeta]

I didn't make those.
DC Fn leaf...

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Yeah mine are really not that broad leaved, which disappoints me a little. Mustafunk's uzbek/paki cross plants have a lot fatter leaves than my DC. So do my Erdpurt. The sour/green apple smell people talk about is definitely there though.

Edit - also one of mine has pink pistils. Is this common in DC plants?

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[revegeta]

These are now on day 40. I am struggling to take good pictures of them, not sure why. Maybe it is because they're so small. Very impressed and excited about the smells.

 

[Raco]

Beware of botrytis...
Almost ready...beautiful!

 

[island_organics]

These are now on day 40. I am struggling to take good pictures of them, not sure why. Maybe it is because they're so small. Very impressed and excited about the smells.
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Your buds look the same as mine. I got mine from RSC. I enjoyed growing them but didn’t really find what i was looking for.

 

[Raco]

Edit - also one of mine has pink pistils. Is this common in DC plants?

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Never seen that ^^ and I've seen a lot of DC flowers...
Strong sun light maybe? Hybrid?

 

[Raco]

I've seen Panama x DC F1 plants that looked more DC than all plants shown ^^ and some had pink stigmas

 

[revegeta]

Beware of botrytis...

I'll be alert thanks but they are so small I'd be surprised haha

Never seen that ^^ and I've seen a lot of DC flowers...
Strong sun light maybe? Hybrid?

Not sunlight, one of them did have pink pistils. Not anymore though. Don't know if they're hybridised

Edit - one of them autoflowered and you also told me you hadn't seen that before remember?

 

[island_organics]

I've seen Panama x DC F1 plants that looked more DC than all plants shown ^^ and some had pink stigmas

Panama x deep chunk from old Cannabiogen stock.

 

[Hmong]

DC#27 @fd32

 

[nick11]

DC#27 @fd32

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Such a cool cultivar but not ideal for indoor yields look tiny. But beautiful plant nice job I like those red petioles and veins. Or is it decievingly heavy?

 

[Hmong]

Or is it decievingly heavy?

some turn fully purple by the end, this is just the beginning.

DC#5 @fd40

 

[revegeta]

For whoever is interested, I sent my pics to Tom hill and he confirmed these are not DC, which is disappointing to me. He said trichomes look good but there's no pink pistils or autoflowering plants in DC, like @Raco said. So maybe there was some kind of hybridising going on in this lot as you said.

Edit - He said he'll most likely reproduce them next year in march, finishing in June. I'll be waiting for those to start my little project then.

 

[Hmong]

For whoever is interested, I sent my pics to Tom hill and he confirmed these are not DC, which is disappointing to me.

I can send you some of my repro, once they are ready to be packaged.
You just observe what you got there, in terms of smells and effect. Might be worth outcrossing with DC to create a pink pistiled line, something pink grapefruity.

where did you source your DC?
sorry if I missed it.

 

[revegeta]

I can send you some of my repro, once they are ready to be packaged.
You just observe what you got there, in terms of smells and effect. Might be worth outcrossing with DC to create a pink pistiled line, something pink grapefruity.

where did you source your DC?
sorry if I missed it.

Thank you very much man that is very nice of you. Knowing that Tom will be reproducing them himself next year, I'll probably get them from him, I don't mind paying. If he ends up not reproducing them, maybe I'll hit you up then and take you on your offer

I got these seeds from @Mustafunk. Im tagging him but he's been off icmag for a while now. He told me the seeds he sent me were half from a repro he did himself, and half from a repro made by another guy who also worked for Cannabiogen, and that used them to make the Panama x DC cross.

Mustafunk is the most trustworthy person I have met on cannabis forums so far, and I have zero doubts about his honesty or work standards. I'm sure @Raco can confirm this, as he knows him well.

So I don't know, things can happen I guess, especially with reproductions made outdoors. I am not a breeder so I don't know.

Thanks again for your generous offer I really appreciate it.

 

[Hmong]

who also worked for Cannabiogen, and that used them to make the Panama x DC cross.

ahhh!

Well, Panama has pink pistils and looking at your pictures again, this is definitely a hybrid.
I made my own DC x Panama and remember that look well, now that got mentioned.

very likely you just received badly labeled seeds as pure DC, at least within that mix.
you should run more of those seeds and look for major differences.

DC x PAN f1 also looks very BLD early, but no Strawberry leafs are the biggest tell that it's not pure DC.

DCxPAN f1 vs. pure DC seedlings

if you don't have a reference, they are impossible to tell apart.

 

[revegeta]

ahhh!

Well, Panama has pink pistils and looking at you pictures again, this is definitely a hybrid.
I made my own DC x Panama and remember that look well, now that got mentioned.

very likely you just received badly labeled seeds as pure DC, at least within that mix.
you should run more of those seeds and look for major differences.

DC x PAN f1 also looks very BLD early, but no Strawberry leafs are the biggest tell, that it's not pure DC.

Oh shit, that would make sense.

But still, wouldn't a cross between Panama and DC be very vigorous? How did yours come out? I'm asking because these plants I have are dwarves. They grew slowly like an inbred variety. But yeah, definitely I will grow the lot of them even if it's just to get to the bottom of this.

If they're a Panama hybrid, that should be really easy to identify by the effect.

I can't see any of your pics except for the second to last one.

Edit - ok now I see them. Yes they look close to mine. I think if mine were hybridised it should become really obvious when I smoke them

 

[Hmong]

But still, wouldn't a cross between Panama and DC be very vigorous? How did yours come out?

Not really, it's a 50:50 Hybrid afterall.
stocky plants, finishing in 9-10 weeks.

clones @fd59

I can't see any of your pics except for the second to last one.

had to edit album privacy, it works now.

I'm asking because these plants I have are dwarves. They grew slowly like an inbred variety.

you likely have Panama x DC, those come out more DC dominant from the pollen side.

That's why I made my own, but doing DC x Panama with the NLD on the pollen side.

If they're a Panama hybrid, that should be really easy to identify by the effect.

you wouldn't notice in the F1, maybe just the fact that it's less narcotic than real DC.
You'd have to make an F2 and look for pheno distribution in a population, let's say 16-25 plants considering your space.

I actually prefer the hybrid high and flavor over the pure DC, but the afterglow in the morning is nasty.

 

[revegeta]

Yeah those last pictures you posted look really close to my plants. We'll see. They smell awesome so I will probably grow them all to check them outbut that won't be until next spring.

 

[BumSplodgeBrownPants]

I've a couple of DC on the go from @VerdantGreen , I'm loving them big leaves they have.

(Both have been dusted with a mix of 3 Mazar-i males from seeds collected in 2020.)

 

[Hmong]

Yeah those last pictures you posted look really close to my plants. We'll see.

depending on soil and season, I did get all kinds of looks within that line.

That's a cut from another pheno in winter, where during summer the seed plants were all lime green.
just crazy difference in epigenetic expressions.