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Dead hawk with band, what to do if someone finds that

Space Toker

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You def won't get any of that unless you hook up with them, tell 'em who you are & so forth. Maybe not even then.

Have you gone to the website?
I did and got this:
https://www.pwrc.usgs.gov/BBL/bblretrv/

I got up the courage and with all that I have faced as mentioned in another thread, figured what the hell? Pulls up some site that includes Canada but also mentions USGS. And Patuxent, which is in Maryland I think (nowhere near us and as a non-migratory species, doubt it was banded there but believe they provide bands to banders elsewhere) and influential in the Whooping Crane restoration effort which I applaud greatly. I clicked "continue" and entered the band number, asked the cause of death and then I selected some option where I could select some known location near me, do not know if it recognized that but then pulled up some page where it want to know personal info (name, addy, that kind of thing) and quit there. I still may go through with it, friend would love to connect with a biologist with a history of this bird but there is the temptation for him to put it out and let some animal cart it off, or deposit somewhere where someone else may enter the info. Tragic, as he got great enjoyment watching that bird hunt and circle and chase ravens many times and could share a lot with said biologist. Can't have anyone in his house though. It (Cooper's hawk) is still in a bucket awaiting an answer at the moment. And I can see yort's point now, don't know what I was thinking now when creating the last half of that title.
 

Space Toker

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Your "Friend" shouldn't worry, nothing worry about.




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I think you are right. Do you mean enter the info on the website, or bring it somewhere to someone who can help? I don't know if there is some law against transporting birds, I know you can't transport live mammals and are better off killing them. Twisted but true.
 

Sisu

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I think you are right. Do you mean enter the info on the website, or bring it somewhere to someone who can help? I don't know if there is some law against transporting birds, I know you can't transport live mammals and are better off killing them. Twisted but true.

Lacey Act.

Good luck.
 

mofeta

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Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918; Title 16 United States Code sec 703a said:
...it shall be unlawful at any time, by any means or in any manner, to pursue, hunt, take, capture, kill, attempt to take, capture, or kill, possess, offer for sale, sell, offer to barter, barter, offer to purchase, purchase, deliver for shipment, ship, export, import, cause to be shipped, exported, or imported, deliver for transportation, transport or cause to be transported, carry or cause to be carried, or receive for shipment, transportation, carriage, or export, any migratory bird, any part, nest, or egg of any such bird, or any product, whether or not manufactured, which consists, or is composed in whole or part, of any such bird or any part, nest, or egg thereof,

The coop running into the window would be considered an "incidental take" I think, no worries. Keeping the carcass would be illegal though, and transporting it would be a pretty bad idea.

US Fish and Wildlife LEO are basically equal to Federal Marshalls in power, and if you run into a real gung-ho one it can suck badly. When I worked for the Dept of Agriculture, I knew a few agents that got there jollys citing anyone they saw with hawk/owl/raven etc feathers hanging from their rear-view mirrors.

That said, I think it is very unlikely that using the contact website would lead to anything bad, unless you have an aversion to wildlife biologists. There would be no reason for the enforcement guys to even be involved, and even then they are stretched pretty thin dealing with real crime like smuggling etc.
 

stoned-trout

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stuff it in your neighbors mailbox and let them deal with it.....they might be training birds to spy on you ...
 

Capt.Ahab

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Give them the info. Ive reported numerous ducks, geese, hawks, fish and even a dead seal I found on the beach that had rubber NMFS tags on it's flippers. They dont come to your house. Sometimes they send you a certificate if you give them your address.
The last bird I reported was a large Canada goose that had a band on each leg and a numbered rubber collar on it's neck. They sent me a certificate stating the bird was 13 years old and had never migrated. It was a "resident" goose that was tagged as a gosling very near where I bagged it.
 

Stoner4Life

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just chuck the damn thing onto the lawn of the nearest cop shop & let them deal with it.......

 

Space Toker

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Your "Friend" shouldn't worry, nothing worry about.

That's what I figured. The info was submitted and info about the bird will be e-mailed. That seems like end of story. He was banded in the fall of 2010 a few hundred miles to the south. He will be missed.
 

Jhhnn

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That's what I figured. The info was submitted and info about the bird will be e-mailed. That seems like end of story. He was banded in the fall of 2010 a few hundred miles to the south. He will be missed.

Yeh- it's not like the whole govt is out to get you- just certain parts.

They just want the data you can provide. They might want to pick up the carcass if it were an eagle or other endangered & protected species- dunno.
 

B.E.D

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call the local DNR and state that said bird was found and you suspect it smashed into the window and broke its neck.a DNR agent will arrive and pick up the raptor.probably ask a few basic questions and then be on the way.
i dont see what the big deal is.
 

Treetroit City

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Didn't have to hit your friends window. Could have been found under any window in your friends town.

I was going into the supermarket and noticed this bird with a band so I picked it up...

I have a Northern Harrier that has been enjoying our bird feeders for a few years now. Unfortunately it eats the song birds we are feeding not the feed in the feeders.
 

Space Toker

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Thanks for all the great insights! Yeah this guy was a predator of feeder birds too, but was appreciated just the same. Regular customer, "friend" never saw a kill happen but saw attempts and a feathery aftermath more than once.
 

Space Toker

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I'm going to suggest that you strip the bird of its feathers, gut it and remove the head, clip off the feet and you're ready to rock. Melt 3 Tbsp of butter in a 10" skillet, once melted add salt, pepper and one clove of minced garlic; add your bird and bring the heat up to med-hi, carefully continue to turn your hawk evenly browning it, when done remove the bird and put it your slow cooker where you've already.......


I am going to need the full recipe for my friend! :D Actually that would be the foxes not us, and I don't think they are fussy! ;)
We know the location where it was banded and the date, but hoping for more details. RIP Coop!
 

stoned-trout

if it smells like fish
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their on to you.. next time a sparrow or pidgeon... if a turkey runs by head for the hills..the last bird was ordered to get a closeup and died in duty.....
 

mrcreosote

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I'd barbeque the hawk for dinner* and forget about it.

Let em go tag another one.

*tastes like chicken
 

Space Toker

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No news yet, hope they provide it. A new Cooper's hawk was sited a week ago or so, no sightings since but that is good news at least!
 

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