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David Grusch - Real Deal UFOs In Gov Possession?

igrowone

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intrigued by this one, lights over capitol hill
coinciding with committee meetings about lights like these
contact/invasion imminent? maybe they'll accept some hostages from said building 🤣
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Lehmi

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Another revealing interview with Garry Nolan.

For me, he is one of the most credible scientists who is seriously working on clarification and always remains open to new ideas, with a clear attitude of staying on the provable level and not getting bogged down in speculation.

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As he mentioned, another SOL Foundation symposium was held.

There are already first reliable reports in German from the journalist Robert Fleischer on what the topics were, but I don't know how well the Youtube translation subtitles work in English... Nevertheless, here is the link.


 

Lehmi

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some major UFO/UAP/drone action in NJ
spooking folks, state and county spoke weasels are assuring there is no known threat to the public
which will likely scare more than it calms

Quote:
"Some are speculating that the aircraft could be foreign spy drones like the Chinese spy balloon last year, or US military tests, or surveillance drones from the local authorities."

I always find that a funny assumption, super-secret spy drones that are so blatantly conspicuous that everyone can see them. :biggrin:
 
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igrowone

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seems this UFO/UAP/drone outbreak is moving up in NYC
they're not small, and may have interfered with a helicopter medivac operation
if these are human operated drones then I would think it would require some operational platform(possibly mobile)
and said platforms ought to be conspicuous to modern surveillance
whatever they are this will be hard to ignore
 

armedoldhippy

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super-secret spy drones that are so blatantly conspicuous
hiding in plain sight. "no known threat" yeah, that DOES sound worse. but it COULD be "we're doing this for your own good" in which case, i'd start shooting them down. ever watch the youtube videos of Ruger 10-22s full auto with tracers? :headbange rock and ROLL!
 

Lehmi

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hiding in plain sight. "no known threat" yeah, that DOES sound worse. but it COULD be "we're doing this for your own good" in which case, i'd start shooting them down. ever watch the youtube videos of Ruger 10-22s full auto with tracers? :headbange rock and ROLL!
It is a widespread and well-trained pattern in humanity to want to destroy everything we don't know and that frightens us as quickly as possible. So it is fear-driven, reason and enlightenment will have to wait.
This is a fact at first, no evaluation.
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Whoever can goes beyond with a more open mind for research will first collect data and analyze what is happening.

So far, these phenomena have been largely harmless; their only offense is that they seem to violate our laws of physic and, above all, do not adhere to our no-fly zones. As a result, they often disrupt the operation of military exercises and actions, and have also reportedly been seen excessively often at nuclear facilities.

Most attempts to eliminate or bring down these troublemakers fail miserably, because this technology and therefore their intelligence is far superior to ours. Some observers also report the feeling that these UAPs “interact” with them, be it by changing position when zooming the lens or via the colors.

In recent times, the last 10 years, these phenomena seem to be on the increase, which may also be due to the fact that more and more public reports are being made about them and there are always official hearings in the US Congress.

Certain parts of governments around the world are said to know far more about it than we might suspect. In any case, the phenomenon has been known for a long time.
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So far I have learned that they are damn fast and extremely talented in dealing with large amounts of energy. They know in advance how the exercises will go, no collisions have been officially reported so far, only very close fly-bys, which rightly scare the pilots and military.

There doesn't seem to be any danger to the population if you don't get close to these things. (There are reports of encounters with radiation damage, one US soldier is said to be receiving a pension as a result).

The non-verbal statement that I can deduce so far is that “they” (e.g. a non-human intelligence) are watching us closely and indirectly asking us to think again carefully about the concept of our reality, which we have obviously understood, if only in part.

The common assumptions of the threats, they would want to conquer us, or be here due to resources are extremely unlikely if we consider their huge progress in understanding reality and physics laws.
So there must be another reason. It is time that we give our species the dignity to develop as a whole instead of constantly threatening and destroying us and our livelihood.

“There are things between heaven and earth, Horatio, that your school wisdom cannot dream of.” - Shakespeare
 

igrowone

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the 'drone' situation in NJ has become a bit dramatic
residents feel nothing is being done and getting a little spooked
personally I have to think if these are human things this situation would have been resolved by now
invasion of UFOs? I encourage any readers to check the NJ news, weird shit is going on
 

Lehmi

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I encourage any readers to check the NJ news, weird shit is going on


I recently have seen some of these recordings on the Internet. Many of them reminded me of airplanes or helicopters approaching, both in shape and flashing lights, on some videos even the sound matches.
I have no idea how powerful or difficult the technical possibilities are to force conventional drones to land. Part of it could therefore be recordings of such prankster drones.

In general, I think anything is possible, there will certainly be a significant amount of video fakes and misinformation among them.

But in a few recordings, strange accelerations and speeds were actually observed when changing position, and the lights were pulsating in a strange iridescent way.

As long as the mainstream media don't stir up fear and at least pretend to do due diligence, I see little reason to suspect psy-ops.


I think the best thing to do is to remain calm and patient and continue to observe what happens with a watchful skepticism.

Unfortunately, it's cloudy here most of the time in winter and a bit too frosty for me to go on long observation tours at night. However, we don't have any specific reason to do so, which would otherwise have been noticeable in such a densely populated area without an airport nearby. ;)
 

igrowone

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I recently have seen some of these recordings on the Internet. Many of them reminded me of airplanes or helicopters approaching, both in shape and flashing lights, on some videos even the sound matches.
I have no idea how powerful or difficult the technical possibilities are to force conventional drones to land. Part of it could therefore be recordings of such prankster drones.

In general, I think anything is possible, there will certainly be a significant amount of video fakes and misinformation among them.

But in a few recordings, strange accelerations and speeds were actually observed when changing position, and the lights were pulsating in a strange iridescent way.

As long as the mainstream media don't stir up fear and at least pretend to do due diligence, I see little reason to suspect psy-ops.


I think the best thing to do is to remain calm and patient and continue to observe what happens with a watchful skepticism.

Unfortunately, it's cloudy here most of the time in winter and a bit too frosty for me to go on long observation tours at night. However, we don't have any specific reason to do so, which would otherwise have been noticeable in such a densely populated area without an airport nearby. ;)
one thing that can be done with drones is that radio control can be seized
was thinking that probably has been attempted but no news on it
can low end drones available in the open market do what these are doing?
mostly just mystified and glad to have fellow observers in trying to make sense of it
 

Lehmi

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Aliens you reckon, maybe, seems more credible than the "man made" Co2 global warming rubbish

:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Yes, and we really need to find out if their UFOs are farting Co2!
If they do, we need to tax them!
And of course their UFOs must only be made of completely recyclable & vegan sheet metal! :biggrin:


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One exciting thing, however, is the concept of aliens or extraterrestrials. There are several working hypotheses on this, depending on how far we want to extend our concept of reality into areas that we don't even begin to understand.


They could be earthly beings, for example, who are mostly hidden from our lower frequencies of perception. They follow our development attentively, but hold back except for a few moments or important corrective measures in order to only influence the course of events when it would otherwise be planetarily dangerous.

Or perhaps they are interdimensional beings who can change their frequency of existence according to need and focus. What such highly evolved beings intend and what culture of existence these semi-material or purely ethereal beings would have in order to interact with us, we can only guess at best.

Another possibility would be the idea that this reality of ours is merely a lifelike simulation (as theorized by many astro-physicists) that we have entered for experiential reasons. Then these phenomena could be necessary interventions by the admins to support the program in operation and to insert necessary updates and upgrades. We all hope they don't run on Windows! 😅
The occupants of the system could perceive these interventions, but their level would not know how to evaluate this interactions.


The most terrifying version would be a kind of mass hallucination, seen as a result of our constant and careless environmental poisoning and our underdeveloped mental capacities collectively.

Although this version seems to be what the majority are experiencing right now...:oops: but it is also an exciting time with intact possibilities for change and evolution. ;)
Do we stay on the ball or do we just sit back and enjoy the show?
 

Shua1991

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revealing what he can without breaking the 'classified' restraints
always implications, but never the address of alien spacecraft
my gut feel is there no physical captures, just experiences of bizarre encounters by military people and equipment
which matches the civilian encounters, unexplained events that happen irregularly
This guy Elizondo is a lying sack of shit who tortured people in gitmo.

Fyi
 

Shua1991

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best remote viewer there ever was on a mission to look at target in russia something attracted him to alaska told them he seen nothing but later at home he went back to the mountain what he seen inside is wild he mysteriously died alittle after since then remote viewers went to all four spot he found were they military or alien all hidden bases under mountains
then this account by ingo swann another remote viewer the moon what he saw is make you wonder

Remote viewing isn't real lmfao
 

H e d g e

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Die Glocke (German: [diː ˈɡlɔkə], 'The Bell') was a purported top-secret scientific technological device, wonder weapon, or Wunderwaffe developed in the 1940s in Nazi Germany. Rumors of this device have persisted for decades after WW2 and were used as a plot trope in the fiction novel Lightning by Dean Koontz (1988).

Dean Koontz also wrote about biological weapons research from wutan in his book ‘eyes of darkness’. The similarities between it and the story we were fed are incredible.

Whoever’s inventing the mainstream narrative has limited imagination and reads Dean Koontz is my guess.

Wouldn’t be surprised if ufos are reverse engineered bells though, otherwise why the advance in alien tech since the first wobbly ones?
 

igrowone

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police video showing an 'army' of 55 drones off the NJ coast
accusations are beginning to fly, the belief this is some amateur operation is fading
calls for drone shoot downs are beginning, good luck with that

 

Old Piney

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police video showing an 'army' of 55 drones off the NJ coast
accusations are beginning to fly, the belief this is some amateur operation is fading
calls for drone shoot downs are beginning, good luck with that

This shit is just crazy , I find it hard to believe that the government doesn’t know whats up and if they don’t WTF
 

igrowone

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This guy Elizondo is a lying sack of shit who tortured people in gitmo.

Fyi
he was certainly there where 'enhanced interrogation' was used
was he a torturer? probably not directly though it can be argued his participation makes him equally culpable
he does seem rather credible on the UFO topic though
 

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