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Darker ash

LEF

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Does a darker grey color of ash mean automatically that it was not flushed properly ? Do some strains simply leave a darker ash ?

I recently got an oz of skunk #1. Decided to try it for its sativa effects. I think it might lack in potency compared to todays strains but being a 70s classic sativa that parented a lot of todays strains I wanted to try it out. Locally, its mostly indicas/kush that are around.

The herb seems to take more time when I hit the joint to combust, but only minimally. The taste doesnt seem particularly bad, its smooth but a bit lung expanding. The high is on the heady side, a bit euphoric. Sour citrus smell, with some herbal/earthy noted. The herb is more spicy than sweet.

Im wondering if it could be even outdoor because it has an outdoor look, lots of little leafs, a more robust/hard exterior (unlike softer indoor). Maybe I could post some pics.
 

Green Squall

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I don't think so. I personally think darker ash is from drying too fast. Does it taste "chlorophylly"? I've smoked non flushed herb before that was dried properly and it had light gray ash.
 

amanda88

Well-known member
The Skunk#1 ..I know of was indeed 'created' as far back as the '70s

and is a long established hybrid, the base plant of many of todays strains,

You need to drill your dealer, and find out more like the grow method etc,

but from the outset it does sound as if it wasn't flushed or as Green^^^ suggests

was not cured correctly, which can be typical of many growers this time of year,

perhaps see it as a 'rush' job with many plants to harvest before the weather hits ...lol

my2c
 

LEF

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@amanda I will try to get more info but I am not sure I can. It comes from bc. And yes, I have heard of skunk 1 being a parent to a lot of modern strains. I was expecting it to be more skunk smelling or just more smelling, It doesn't stink up the room when I open the jar but all in all, I still like it.

I've been smoking afghan hash for the last 2 weeks at least, it is just good to have some herb.

I don't think so. I personally think darker ash is from drying too fast. Does it taste "chlorophylly"? I've smoked non flushed herb before that was dried properly and it had light gray ash.

It has maybe a slightly greeny/grassy taste to it in the palate. Will have to check on it,

A bit like outdoor, ive showed it to my friends and from the looks they thought it was hard to tell if it was in or out but one of them took a toke on the unlit spliff said it tasted like outdoor.

Ive smoked some more of it and the ash seemed to be lighter in the last spliff.

Thanks for the input. (Both of you)

I find it interesting that this could be more about drying process than flushing. Ive read a post somewhere where some guy said good weed is 60% genetics and 40% drying.

I received it dry but not finger crumbling dry. Doesnt seem to have much moisture in it.
I was not informed if it was gonna be outdoor, I didnt think at this price it would be.

Can you guys tell 100% if a herb was grown in or outdoors ?
 

CoCoSativas

Active member
Does a darker grey color of ash mean automatically that it was not flushed properly ? Do some strains simply leave a darker ash ?

I recently got an oz of skunk #1. Decided to try it for its sativa effects. I think it might lack in potency compared to todays strains but being a 70s classic sativa that parented a lot of todays strains I wanted to try it out. Locally, its mostly indicas/kush that are around.

The herb seems to take more time when I hit the joint to combust, but only minimally. The taste doesnt seem particularly bad, its smooth but a bit lung expanding. The high is on the heady side, a bit euphoric. Sour citrus smell, with some herbal/earthy noted. The herb is more spicy than sweet.

Im wondering if it could be even outdoor because it has an outdoor look, lots of little leafs, a more robust/hard exterior (unlike softer indoor). Maybe I could post some pics.

Two reasons s o find for darker ash. Wet weed or not flushed right.

Skunk isn't a sativa it's a indica dude... if you want heady try anything I run, skunks certainly aren't sativas.


That's what a sativa looks like. Skunks are short and squat I used to grow it but not anymore sativas for me mostly though pain is making me crave indica pot
 

CoCoSativas

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@amanda I will try to get more info but I am not sure I can. It comes from bc. And yes, I have heard of skunk 1 being a parent to a lot of modern strains. I was expecting it to be more skunk smelling or just more smelling, It doesn't stink up the room when I open the jar but all in all, I still like it.

I've been smoking afghan hash for the last 2 weeks at least, it is just good to have some herb.



It has maybe a slightly greeny/grassy taste to it in the palate. Will have to check on it,

A bit like outdoor, ive showed it to my friends and from the looks they thought it was hard to tell if it was in or out but one of them took a toke on the unlit spliff said it tasted like outdoor.

Ive smoked some more of it and the ash seemed to be lighter in the last spliff.

Thanks for the input. (Both of you)

I find it interesting that this could be more about drying process than flushing. Ive read a post somewhere where some guy said good weed is 60% genetics and 40% drying.

I received it dry but not finger crumbling dry. Doesnt seem to have much moisture in it.
I was not informed if it was gonna be outdoor, I didnt think at this price it would be.

Can you guys tell 100% if a herb was grown in or outdoors ?

I can absolutely tell outdoor vs indoor. No outdoor in the history of pot looks like this it's untouched by bugs birds hit and rain. Greenhouse weed looks the same as indoor it is! Anyway outdoor often is missing it's outer trichomes and layers inside from rains. The bud always looks way rougher. Shit hawk did a nice job and I don't mean to talk down on outdoor but outside they are exposed to elements. Shittys bud would have minor flaws and imperfections inside nothing to cause it so mine looks flawless. Again his stuff looked really pretty and I only saw pics but it's a fact of outdoor. Ever find a bumble bee in your outdoor? I've paid for a chunk of fucking hive and dead bees don't think I've ever sold bees as included in a bag... I've also found bird shit in outdoor... nest pieces all sorts of shit.

Anyway outdoor will always look slightly wilder, more leaf and slight wear and tear for the most part. There are exceptions I've seen pristine outdoor though he had a dry season with no rain after flower and lives near a beach so not much shit blowing around (rocky beach) but other than that I've always been 100% sure if it's insides or outdoor.
 

Green Squall

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Two reasons s o find for darker ash. Wet weed or not flushed right.

Skunk isn't a sativa it's a indica dude... if you want heady try anything I run, skunks certainly aren't sativas.
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That's what a sativa looks like. Skunks are short and squat I used to grow it but not anymore sativas for me mostly though pain is making me crave indica pot

I'm no expert here but I think skunk #1 does have a fair amount of sativa in it.

LEF- post a quick picture if you have a second
 

LEF

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I will try to post a pic tomorrow when I have my jar around

Leafly and other sites classify it as a hybrid

Its columbian x mexican x afghani

I would say that even if there might be some indica in it, it doesnt put me to sleep or glue me to the couch like a kush (bubba, purple) Its got an upbeat effect on the mood.

Ive smoked it in the late evenings and was a bit disappointed in not having more of a night time bud around because it didnt really let me unwind.
 

Rob547

East Coast Grower
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Always thought it was a "thing" that the lighter/cleaner it burned the better flushed/better cured it is
 

CoCoSativas

Active member
I'm no expert here but I think skunk #1 does have a fair amount of sativa in it.

LEF- post a quick picture if you have a second

Whatever sativa genetics are in skunk may be there doesn't make it a sativa. That's a indica Dom plant. I'm not trying to be rude but I would know I grew skunk and skunk crosses for about a year solid in my early growing days. Now I grow sativa dom 90% of the time, only now craving indicas for the pain relief. Anyway I'm kinda a sativa geek. To me by definition a sativa is 70+ sativa leaning in traits. A 60/40 is right still in the hybrid zone to me just leaning one way or another. Skunk is done in a scant 56 days, the only sativas going that do that are ogs and a few highland varieties. Still lots of ogs aren't that sativa and due to their height, wide leaves and bud structure I place them in the sativa leaning hybrid catagory, with lots of indica trait even the leaves are indica Dom on most all I've seen.

Anyway go stick a haze and a skunk plant beside each other. The skunk will define a indica pretty well the haze a sativa you can really see skunk is a indica Dom. I've found a few sativa looking ones but never a racy paranoid high I'm always sleepy and couch locked. A 20 cm haze clone can end up over 10 feet tall, no skunk can ever do that. No skunk ever flowered 100 days it just doesn't happen. The sativa genetics in skunk certainly aren't the dominant ones.
 

CoCoSativas

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I agree with the 'not cured properly' crowd.......

Yeah with the taste description. Op could brown bag it a while...

Really it's either not dried and cured right, flushed properly, or sometimes it's just the bud some stuff does better in bowls than joints I find... could be the grinder too if the grind is uneven some won't be fully toasted....
 

rykus

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True skunk #1 doesn't finish in BC to my knowledge.... Also under fed or over flushed herb burned black in my experience, break off a branch at full feed, week 6... Smokes great, burn the roots or flush till really light green/yellow both don't burn as well for me. Should be a healthy high feeding plant leaches its soil in 2-3 waters, if not roots are probably sad and plant is eating itself anyways, but will show salt build up in container.
 

HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
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I am kind of surprised people make such a fuss over ash? The range of temperature in which all cannabinoids evaporate lies between 157 and 220 degrees Celsius. 500-700°C (932-1292°F) Is the combustion temperature for marijuana.

So by the time something becomes ash the cannabinoids are long gone.
 

floralheart

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I am kind of surprised people make such a fuss over ash? The range of temperature in which all cannabinoids evaporate lies between 157 and 220 degrees Celsius. 500-700°C (932-1292°F) Is the combustion temperature for marijuana.

So by the time something becomes ash the cannabinoids are long gone.

Ash is one of the best indicators of shit weed and inexperienced growers.

White ash, you know what you're doing. Black ash, you're a secret Advanced Nutrients rep.
 

floralheart

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Black ash is good for allergic reactions, headaches, sinus issues and little more. Black ash tells me you like to grow for cash. White ash tells me you like marijuana.
 
From what you describe in the OP, I'd say it was more likely not dried and cured properly. That's more the case when it won't light right or has the darker ash (it doesn't burn evenly all the way through, it hits an area of higher moisture inside than outside and goes out for example).
 
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