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Dark Mission: NASA's dirty little secret.

HCSmyth

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Babombeez said:
Blah, blah, blah... are you talking? cause sounds like me you guys are the ones who are full of it! hehe!

What I believe your problem is: you are very bias in regard to the likelihood of a major human extinction occurring soon in order to validate your own ego.

Babombeez said:
1)"Our Solar System (heliosphere) is moving into an area of higher aetheric energy density within the local interstellar medium, or LISM."
[Dmitriev, Aleskey. Planetophysical State of the Earth and Life. (1997) ]

2)When we turn our focus towards the Sun, we find similar anomalous increases in overall energetic activity. A team at the Rutherford Appleton Laboratory near Oxford, led by Dr. Mike Lockwood, has discovered that in the last century, the overall strength of the Sun’s magnetic field has more than doubled, becoming 230 percent stronger than it was in 1901.
[Lockwood, Mike. (230% increase in solar magnetic field since 1901) (1998)]

3)New charged particles are appearing in the Van Allen belts, with qualities normally only seen in radiation from stars. Let us also remember the overall 410-percent increase in catastrophes from 1963 to 1993
[Dmitriev, Aleskey. Planetophysical State of the Earth and Life. (1997)]

& the 400-percent increase in earthquakes from 1973 to 1998 and the ~500% increase in volcanic activity from 1875 to 1993.

4) this most recent solar maximum cycle has been so unusually energetic that George Withbroe, Science Director for NASA’s Sun-Earth Connection Program issued a statement saying that, quote,

“This is a unique solar maximum in history. The images and data are beyond the wildest expectations of the astronomers of a generation ago."
(Withbroe, George. (Solar Changes) (2000) NASA.)

5) in September 1997 the Mars Surveyor satellite encountered a 200% increase in the density of the Martian atmosphere, against what had been calculated from previous NASA data. Furthermore, in December of 2001 NASA released photographic images showing a major increase in the speed with which the Martian polar icecaps are melting....

Plus we are on the verge of a magnetic pole reversal... airports are constantly repainting the lines on their runways... don't you see?

But guys, keep denying the energetic increases of our solar system, Wilcock is just connecting all these dots that the mass media doesn't cover this material.... It might freak people out...


Beez

Babombeez said:
^^^Dr. Aleskey Dmitriev’s study begins by pointing out that the now government-acknowledged changes in the basic physics and behaviors of the Earth are becoming irreversible.

Strong evidence suggests that these changes are caused by our movement into what Dmitriev calls “a highly charged material and energetic non-uniformity”, or what we would refer to as a higher density of aetheric energy, in nearby (local) interstellar space (the LISM).

This previously unforeseen, highly charged energetic material is now being absorbed into the interplanetary area of our Solar System, creating “hybrid processes and excited energy states in all planets, as well as the Sun.”

The observable effects of this transformation on Earth include an acceleration in our magnetic pole shift, a change in the vertical and horizontal content and distribution of ozone in the atmosphere and an ever-increasing magnitude and frequency of major catastrophic events."

You tell me this is NOT scientific evidence! Dream on! :asskick:

Read all about it!

Energetic solar system transformation underway!


Beez
Some of the evidence you present clearly has some merit. Earth has gone through many, many catastrophic events in it's history that would doom humanity if it occurred today. The LISM event is a cycle that occurs to our solar system over millions of years. Over time the solar system cyclically drifts in and out of dense space in our galaxy. The ozone/magnetic shift you refer to I am not so sure about but like you I am not an expert in that field. But clearly much evidence exists to support the magnetic poles have moved significantly over the Earth’s long history.
 

Relapse

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Hey beez, just throwing this out there and no offence is meant by this but people might be more willing to have an intellectual discussion with you if all your information is not pulled from David Wilcock's website. Try to do some research on your own, who knows you might even find more truth in what you believe to be true.

My initial impression of David Wilcock's site was exactly that of many other people, I saw that he was offering "readings" for a "fixed cost of $150" and I immediately lost respect for what he was saying and was reminded of Scientology. It is my belief that if anyone has any "spiritual" lessons that they should be offered free of charge and for the betterment of mankind, not for any monetary gain. Did Jesus charge for his teachings?
 

PazVerdeRadical

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i think none of you are innocent of using ad-hominen attacks on each other like there is no tomorrow.
and, we all know there are dudes flying around in spaceships, lets not get our panties in a twist because of it. :wink:

paz
 

HCSmyth

Member
PazVerdeRadical said:
i think none of you are innocent of using ad-hominen attacks on each other like there is no tomorrow.

Ad hominem arguments are always invalid in syllogistic logic

You are correct but can I just use syllogistic/deductive reasoning here to argue against someone like beez?

Ad hominem circumstantial involves pointing out that someone is in circumstances such that he is disposed to take a particular position.

I pointed out (brilliantly IMO!) that it is Beez is very bias in regard to the likelihood of a major human extinction occurring soon in order to validate his own ego.

One difference (inductive reasoning vs. deductive reasoning) between them is that in deductive reasoning, the evidence provided must be a set about which everything is known before the conclusion can be drawn. Since it is difficult to know everything before drawing a conclusion, deductive reasoning has little use in the real world. This is where inductive reasoning steps in.

How could I or anyone for that matter, know all and comprehend all the facts in regard to the way the universe operates? Umm I think we need to use a little bit of inductive reasoning here…

And I think that includes presenting the massive character flaw that I believe is causing Beez to frame the evidence to support his claims!

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

PazVerdeRadical said:
we all know there are dudes flying around in spaceships, lets not get our panties in a twist because of it.

We do all know that, and it is not just dudes but chicks too. The Captain of one such spaceship just came back to earth from an international space station flown by a woman from my hometown.
 

Babombeez

Active member
Relapse said:
Hey beez, just throwing this out there and no offence is meant by this but people might be more willing to have an intellectual discussion with you if all your information is not pulled from David Wilcock's website. Try to do some research on your own, who knows you might even find more truth in what you believe to be true.

My initial impression of David Wilcock's site was exactly that of many other people, I saw that he was offering "readings" for a "fixed cost of $150" and I immediately lost respect for what he was saying and was reminded of Scientology. It is my belief that if anyone has any "spiritual" lessons that they should be offered free of charge and for the betterment of mankind, not for any monetary gain. Did Jesus charge for his teachings?

No offense taken, but I happen to find Wilcock's web site to be a wealth of scientific and spiritual information... David was offering readings but is NOT offering readings anymore, he was doing them to support the website, but was "directed by his higher self" to stop doing readings...

Everyone keeps talking crap on Wilcock, but no one can refute what is going on in our solar system... Changes are happening, and in no way, shape, or form am I doing this for ego's sake! Everyone all the time ignores all the connections and syncronicities, it's time to connect the dots and see the big picture here, there is a massive energetic change and it correlates to the year 2012 and the end of the Mayan calendar... And again, quit taking things out of context and misrepresenting this information... I am not proclaiming an "end of the world" scenario, but perhaps our social structures and economic structures are coming to an end, I don't know, but we are witnessing real physical, scientifically measurable changes all around us and I am just trying to draw attention to it...

Wilcock is not lying, or driven by ego, he is not proclaiming to be a savior, but all the skeptics use this as their arguing point, assuming things and putting words in mouths... I see David Wilcock as a gatherer of scientific data and his model of evolution sure makes a heck more lot of sense than anything else I have ever studied...

Everyone acts as if Wilcock makes these "ghastly, out of reach claims" and then does not include references, footnotes, etc, but he does and all the links are there, all the sources are there, go look!

Refute this: David Wilcock is THE reincarnation of Edgar Cayce, the great "sleeping prophet" of the 1900's. When you compare their natal charts, or birth charts, they are exactly the same, and the odds are billions to one.


(Edgar Cayce left, David Wilcock right)

2012, passage of the Sun:



Peace!

Beez
 
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Babombeez

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So here is a link about the the changes in the sun, and how they probably relate to global warming...

http://www.sepp.org/Archive/weekwas/2000/Dec30.htm

Now compare this with Wilcock's information, it makes so much sense!!!

http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=102&Itemid=36

^^^Look at all that scientific data, and those graphs, scientific evidence!!!

Look at Wilcock's references!

REFERENCES:

Aspden, Harold. Energy Science Tutorial Note 10: Tifft’s Discovery. (1997)
Aspden, H. & Eagles, D.M. Aether Theory and the Fine-Structure Constant. (1972) Physics Letters, 41A, 423-424.
Bara, Michael & Hoagland, Richard. Global Warming on Mars? The Hyperdimensional Connection. (2001)
Blake, J.R. The Van-Allen radiation belts – two newly observed populations. (1994) Absr. Spring Meet., Baltimore, MD, May 23-28. EOS, 1994, vol. 75 no. 16.
Boston University / American Geophysical Union. Lunar sodium tail discovered. (1999)
Braden, Gregg. Awakening to Zero Point: The Collective Initiation. (1997) Radio Bookstore Press, Bellevue, WA. ISBN: 1-889071-09-9.
Britt, R.R. Mars Ski Report: Snow is Hard, Dense and Disappearing. (2001)
Britt, R.R. Venus: No Lightning, But a Strange Green Glow. (2001)
Chang, Kenneth. (Anomalous brightness increases of Venus) (2001) New York Times, Jan. 28, 2001.
CNN. (Tornado activity after April 10, 2001 solar activity) (2001)
CNN. (Brightness increase of Io) (2001)
CNN. (Brightness increase of Jupiter) (2001)
CNN. (Earthquake of El Salvador, Jan. 2001) (2001)
CNN. (Earthquake of Gujarat, India, Jan. 2001) (2001)
Dmitriev, Aleskey. Planetophysical State of the Earth and Life. (1997)
European Southern Observatory. Astron. Astrophys. 317, 193-202 (1997)
Hutton, William. Coming Earth Changes: The Evidence. (1998)
Leifert, Harvey. Investigating the Moon’s atmosphere. (1998)
American Geophysical Union News, Release No. 98-26. (1998) {sodium and potassium added to list in 1988}
Lockwood, Mike. (230% increase in solar magnetic field since 1901) (1998)
Madey, T.E. T.E. Madey’s Research and Co-Workers. {solar wind on lunar atm}
Mandeville, Michael. (Earthquake and Volcanism Increases)
Mewaldt, R.A. Re-Accelerated Solar Wind – An Additional Source of Anomalous Cosmic Rays? (1999) Caltech, Pasadena, CA, 91125, USA.
NASA. (Solar activity min-max image comparison) (2000)
NASA. (May 10-13 2000 Solar Wind shutdown, 500-600% increase in Earth magnetic field) (2000)
NASA. (July 14, 2000 CME, 200% faster traveling speed, satellite damage) (2000)
NASA. (Nov. 8, 2000 solar radiation storm, double traveling speed, 100,000 times increase in proton flux around Earth) (2000)
NASA. (Properties of CMEs, up to 10bn tons electrified gas) (2000)
Odenwald, Sten. Archive of Astronomy Questions and Answers: Does the Moon have an atmopshere? {Flynn Medillo 1933}
Pasichnyk, Richard. (Redshift anomalies)
Pasichnyk, Richard. The Vital Vastness – Volume Two: The Living Cosmos. (2002) Writer’s Showcase / Iuniverse, Inc. ISBN: 0-595-21086-4;
Ray, C. Claiborne. Science Q&A: Lunar Atmosphere.
Rutgers University. Lunar Atmosphere Reproduced in a Lab. (1999) Artemis Society International. URL: {Yakshinskiy and Madey}
Seybold, Calina C. Characteristics of the Lunar Environment. (1995) {lunar 210 ft cube}
Shemansky, D.E. Vitae. University of Southern California.
Smelyakov, Sergey and Karpenko, Yuri. (1999) The Auric Time Scale and the Mayan Calendar: Demography, Seismicity and History of Great Revelations in the light of the Solar-Planetary Synchronism. ISBN: 966-7309-53-3;
Talbot, J. Plasma Laser Stars 1976-1977 Papers. {Fig 8.5}
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Wilcock, David. Science of Oneness. (2001)
Wilcock, David. The Ultimate Secret of the Mayan Calendar. (2002) Time of Global Shift National Seminar Tour.
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Zank, Gary P. Could the Heliosphere Collapse? (1999) Bartol Institute, University of Delaware.
(April 2001 Mega-Flare)
Time of Global Shift National Seminar Tour.
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Drudge, Matt. Bush Admin U-Turn on Global Warming. (2002) [Note: This link is transient and may only exist a short time on the website.]
Bara, Mike and Hoagland, Richard. Enterprise Mission Statement on the Coming of Sitchin’s “Nibiru” in Spring, 2003. (2002)

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PazVerdeRadical

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HCSmyth said:
We do all know that, and it is not just dudes but chicks too. The Captain of one such spaceship just came back to earth from an international space station flown by a woman from my hometown.

if even our ape-like dudes are flying around in spaceships, the more probable other dudes are out there as well; mathematically speaking this is so in the sense that there are more probabilities of them being out there than not. the issue is not to believe just became, but rather, not to shut close the very real probability.
paz
 
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Babombeez

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Human evolution speeding up, scientists say

By RANDOLPH E. SCHMID
Associated Press

WASHINGTON — Science fiction writers have suggested a future Earth populated by a blend of all races into a common human form. In real life, the reverse seems to be happening.

People are evolving more rapidly than in the distant past, with residents of various continents becoming increasingly different from one another, researchers say.

"I was raised with the belief that modern humans showed up 40,000 to 50,000 years ago and haven't changed," explained Henry C. Harpending, an anthropologist at the University of Utah. "The opposite seems to be true."..................

Read the whole article here: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/chronicle/5366150.html


The ancients believed a shift in consciousness would occur, including a dimensional shift, surrounding the year of 2012 AD...

Are we at the dawn of a new evolution of the human species?

Could our sun be evolving?

And with our sun's evolution, does that mean we on Earth will evolve?

...I think so!

I believe it will be a choice.

Perhaps the choice has already been made.

And many, many people are resisting this evolution...


Peace all,


Beez
 

treble

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Pops said:
Pheno, you have to realize that most of these folks are ****ed out of their head on all that lousy Foster's that you Ozzies ship over here. The only reason that you are smarter than us is because you guys won't drink the shit.

Of course, we went to the moon. My son, who is an aerospace engineer would get a real kick out of this thread. I don't see how you folks can sleep at night with the government blowing up the twin towers,faking the moon landing ,hiding ET ships at Roswell and blowing down the 3 little pigs house(yes, the government IS the big,bad wolf.)

c'mon Pops, you are right about the fosters, its the aussies very own form of chemical warfare but the twin towers were definately an inside job. As for the moon landing. i am 50/50. I know a lot of movies are hints at what they have done or what they have prepared for us. still I will give them the benfit of the doubt.
 
G

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Yea if my "readings" were bullshit and enough people called me on it,I'd "direct my higher self" to give it a rest too haha
 
Pravda.Ru = great wacky stories. it's like the old gossip rags. dean martin was seen fucking a bear last night...
 
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Mud Man

Sumthink Stinks
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1182345/
what a thread... > Interest in the Moon and Mars is rife in the public eyes, they are having trouble hiding it from us it would seem.

Film made in 2009, about Helium-3 companies stationed on moon to mine new energy for earth!

'Elevator to Mars' is also of interest here i feel.
 

Mud Man

Sumthink Stinks
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BEEZ >> where have you been,how have i not seen your excellent posts,, >

ALL ROADS LEAD TO VIRGINIA >>
 
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El Toker

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I knew one the US astronauts that landed on the moon and can confirm that there was a lot of ancient technology lying around abandoned. I saw photos that he had managed to keep for himself along with copies of official documents confirming his story and showing that the conspiracy went well above the US president to theIilluminati. I've detailed it all one this web site so get a look now before they find out and take it down.
 

ibjamming

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No offense taken, but I happen to find Wilcock's web site to be a wealth of scientific and spiritual information... David was offering readings but is NOT offering readings anymore, he was doing them to support the website, but was "directed by his higher self" to stop doing readings...

Everyone keeps talking crap on Wilcock, but no one can refute what is going on in our solar system... Changes are happening, and in no way, shape, or form am I doing this for ego's sake! Everyone all the time ignores all the connections and syncronicities, it's time to connect the dots and see the big picture here, there is a massive energetic change and it correlates to the year 2012 and the end of the Mayan calendar... And again, quit taking things out of context and misrepresenting this information... I am not proclaiming an "end of the world" scenario, but perhaps our social structures and economic structures are coming to an end, I don't know, but we are witnessing real physical, scientifically measurable changes all around us and I am just trying to draw attention to it...

Wilcock is not lying, or driven by ego, he is not proclaiming to be a savior, but all the skeptics use this as their arguing point, assuming things and putting words in mouths... I see David Wilcock as a gatherer of scientific data and his model of evolution sure makes a heck more lot of sense than anything else I have ever studied...

Everyone acts as if Wilcock makes these "ghastly, out of reach claims" and then does not include references, footnotes, etc, but he does and all the links are there, all the sources are there, go look!

Refute this: David Wilcock is THE reincarnation of Edgar Cayce, the great "sleeping prophet" of the 1900's. When you compare their natal charts, or birth charts, they are exactly the same, and the odds are billions to one.


(Edgar Cayce left, David Wilcock right)

2012, passage of the Sun:



Peace!

Beez

Dude...you GOTTA quit smoking so much...your love of the leaf has surely slowed your mind.

The sun is ALWAYS aligned with the center of the galaxy...just like the earth is always aligned with the sun. We're in an arm going around the galaxy center as we go around the sun. We weren't way off to the top or bottom and now we're aligned with the main disk. And at the sizes involved and the distances needed to be traveled...where IS the "alignment" with the center even if we ARE moving up or down towards the main disk (as your IMO inaccurate chart shows). The main disk is thousands of light years across. We'd be "close enough to the center" for thousands of years.

Strange shit happens...there isn't anything "driving" it other than random chance. People are LOOKING for weird shit now more than ever with 2012 coming. It's like when someone mentions a new car style and now you notice them more.

There's no God, no Karma, no evil spirits, there's just life all trying to survive and a bunch of random shit flying around in space. When you realize that...it's SO much easier. "Shit happens"...what are you going to do about it is all that matters.

ANYONE who tells you "they have it figured out" is full of shit and the first mention of money MUST send you packing! NOBODY knows how it all works...nobody has the slightest inkling. It's random chaos, apparently following a few basic "laws". Like one big 3D, complicated fractal.

Survival...it's the reason for everything a living thing does...unless it's fucked in the head...you do see a lot of that. There are no "reasons we're all here", no "grand plan".

Sorry...hate to be the bearer of bad news...
 

ibjamming

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Truth is stanger than fiction...i think were all wrong and the truth will blow our socks off

Well? Spill the beans...tell us what you think...

We're being "trained" and when we're ready we'll be able to "move up" to the next level?

We're being raised as food, when there's enough of us, the aliens who seeded us here will come back and harvest? (would explain past civilizations disappearing and past astronaut visits...ever notice the people who drew the ancient astronaut pictures disappeared mysteriously too?)

God REALLY loves each of us and wants us to be happy? Satan really hates us and wants us all to be miserable? (Funny how Satan supposedly wants us to be miserable yet he has all the fun stuff???)

Fiction has already covered all those...what's left?
 

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