acespicoli
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if you grow skunk and dont have a bag of sulfur your weed is trash
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Dankwolfs rks breeding project and breeding info discussion
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Dankwolf
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Agreed 100% . for more then the terp out come . true skunks are bug magnets . I am vary sure the big reason ee don't see them today is the bug issues involved with the breed / terps that made skunk obsolete .
Agreed 100% . for more then the terp out come . true skunks are bug magnets . I am vary sure the big reason ee don't see them today is the bug issues involved with the breed / terps that made skunk obsolete .
Interesting that you say that! I have a single Fallen Angel {[SFV x (Cheese x SFV OG Kush)] x („Shoreline“ x Oasis (NL#1))} from Devils Harvest Seeds
for a couple of years now that's by far the skunkiest plant I've come across yet, let alone that I've grown.
Despite the somewhat sketchy genetics (the so called "Shoreline" is the same cut Karma used years ago in his Anonymous and it's probably not really based on the Shoreline cutting) it stinks to high heavens and just is a really good plant that grows super stinky and tasteful weed.
Anyway, not only is this plant a total bug magnet. In order to preserve the genetics and to play around with it, I crossed it with an Afghani stud and backcrossed it two times to the mom. Whatever I hit with it, turns out pretty skunky - sometimes more, sometimes a little less. But in the end it's always skunky. And every single plant that derived from that line is also a total bug magnet. It really is a fluke! So maybe there's indeed a causal connection between "old school" skunk profiles and bug magnetism. Definitely seems like it^^
I certainly do, though I've just realized they're not really up to my standards anymore - I just take your request as a hint for me to take some better pictures when I have her in flower again^^
Anyway, here you go:
As you can see in the third pic, she's very changeable, especially when it comes to high temperatures.
She's one of these plants that don't look like much because of her mondane frost level, but she provides a very nice and strong buzz and is beloved especially by the old farts because she reminds them so much of the good ol' mid-nineties
Look like pretty solid pictures to me.. My best efforts probably wouldn’t look half as good 
Dankwolf
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Me,too honestly
I can see is strong Northern Lights 5 and OG influence.
He said with authority.
Awesome off the top of your head reply.
Much respect to the influence this thread has on the
novice and professional breeders alike.
Such great information to be had here in this thread.
Dankwolf
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Thank you vary much . more add as it comes relevant . yhis thread is far from over .
I can see is strong Northern Lights 5 and OG influence.
Well, the OG impression can easily be explained. Don't know about the NL#5 though
CosmicCharlie
Member
I’ve recently had the chance to smoke two different Skunk strains although I’m not sure if you can still get seeds...
Anyways, the reviews:
Darth Revan: bred by AlphaKronik for high Thiol content - this is what the strong sulfuric like Flavonoids are. It’s definitely good stuff but in my opinion the Thiol content is a little too much...
Wonder Skunk: bred by Seed Makers from a feminized selection of Skunk #1 although it doesn’t say the years. Anyways, the Thiol content was still present but toned down and did really remind me of the OG Skunks.
I think if you could get both of those strains and breed them then maybe you can find what you want.
Anyways, the reviews:
Darth Revan: bred by AlphaKronik for high Thiol content - this is what the strong sulfuric like Flavonoids are. It’s definitely good stuff but in my opinion the Thiol content is a little too much...
Wonder Skunk: bred by Seed Makers from a feminized selection of Skunk #1 although it doesn’t say the years. Anyways, the Thiol content was still present but toned down and did really remind me of the OG Skunks.
I think if you could get both of those strains and breed them then maybe you can find what you want.
Thesearch
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One of the last truly skunky plants I had the pleasure to smoke was a blueberry x trainwreck. It was 1gram double bagged in your backpack makes your whole house reak weed. This was around 2010
Since then I have had some pink panther and monster cookies that came close, but not quite the same level. BTW pink kush is more common up here in canada but is a very stinky kushy kush. Its the kind all the rappers want to smoke. Most indica, but more hybrid then most kushes. Even outdoor in our climate has the greasy kush flavour.
Thank you for this info. I am looking into it now just having trouble finding any in stock anywhere. Any links? Thanks!
Here's a quote about the breeding line that seems very relevant to this thread:
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The Darkside Series by Alphakronik Genes is an expression of what is possible when breeding for extreme Thiol production and heavy Terpenes. Thiols are the contrasting flavonoid found within the Cannabis species that makes up the stinky smells throughout nature. Garlic, Fuel, Skunk, Gas, Onion, and Feces smells all come from Thiols rather than Terpenes. Thiols are a carbon chain with a sulfur atom connected at the end of the chain rather than an oxygen atom as found in Terpenes. They are used in the Cannabis plant to attract bugs to catch in their sticky traps (trichomes). They then use drop the dead prey to the ground and use the symbiotic relationship with the soil to feed itself. Alphakronik Genes is proud to be the first breeding team in the world to focus on such focused research, and are now proud to introduce a series dedicated to the “stink” factor found within Cannabis, and are working to develop new research models to advance scientific discoveries throughout the Cannabis genome.
Darth Revan, the second release in the Darkside Series, and the follow up to last year’s highly sought after Darth Sion is continued journey into what can be achieved when Cannabis is bred for ideal stink rather than fruit in aroma and flavor. While the Revan has a thick berry back note, it was bred for its high thiol content along with short stature and thick branching, making it a wonderful option for commercial growers using beds and SCROG techniques. Revan is a great choice for extrators in the market, as it is a heavy yielding plant, but also very trichome laden. This one is NOT for growing in gardens that do not contain an odor removal system, as it will make your grow very apparent to neighbors.
You can expect heavier than average yields of dark purple pinecone shaped flowers that have the sweet undertones and aromas of the Obama mother plant – berries, lavender, and lilac note combined with the putrid road kill skunk, roadside truck-stop diesel fuel smell, and acrid Elephant Garlic finish of The Dawgfather male’s contributions to the hybrid. If you like fruit and fuel flavors, this is the plant for you. The flavor coats your mouth, and stays thick and heavy for over a minute. This plant is perfect for both “flavor chasers” and growers who need great yields to keep profits maximized. Just make sure you’re prepared for the aroma, it can turn you to The Darkside."
Drewsif
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So thiols are flavinoids now?
Did anyone in this scene attend high school science class?
Why would you ever tell someone what class of molecule youre focused on if you dont even know what class of molecule it is yourself?
Fake breeders abound! Pop lingo opportunists! There's no money in thiol hype, what niche circle are these fake breeders pandering to if not the hypetards?
Blind leading the blind! "10 dollars a seed please!" Don't fall for these fake breeders with their fake shills "oh the thiols is too much"!
Did anyone in this scene attend high school science class?
Why would you ever tell someone what class of molecule youre focused on if you dont even know what class of molecule it is yourself?
Fake breeders abound! Pop lingo opportunists! There's no money in thiol hype, what niche circle are these fake breeders pandering to if not the hypetards?
Blind leading the blind! "10 dollars a seed please!" Don't fall for these fake breeders with their fake shills "oh the thiols is too much"!
Thesearch
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Yes, it is definitely cringeworthy reading their description of thiols, however there are mercaptoaldehydes, mercaptoalcohols, mercaptoesters and mercaptoketones, so a polyphenolic mercaptoketone could be considered a flavonoid... Anyhow, a lead is a lead no matter how ignorant to the science these people are, the nose knows, and all these companies just try to make their anecdotal evidence seem empirical anyhow. Its the business. I would still say its worth a few bucks to find those holy grail of stink plants. These *were* supposedly bred for this specifically which is more then most breeders will even say.
Hookahhead
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This is the part that I had issues with...
Sure it’s true in nature that stinky flowers may attract certain pollinators (flies and beetles), as well as benefit certain carnivorous plants. However, I don’t know of any plants that attempt to feed themselves in the manner described above. As an outdoor grower in the tropics, I can tell you that many ants, small flying insects, small spiders certainly get trapped in buds. In my experience that’s where they tend to remain. Even the heaviest trichome laden plants aren’t sticky enough to ensnare a moth, honeybee or other large insects. Also let’s not forget trichomes are produced toward the end of the plants life, it’s not going to see much benefit from all the carcasses falling to the ground.
Sure it’s true in nature that stinky flowers may attract certain pollinators (flies and beetles), as well as benefit certain carnivorous plants. However, I don’t know of any plants that attempt to feed themselves in the manner described above. As an outdoor grower in the tropics, I can tell you that many ants, small flying insects, small spiders certainly get trapped in buds. In my experience that’s where they tend to remain. Even the heaviest trichome laden plants aren’t sticky enough to ensnare a moth, honeybee or other large insects. Also let’s not forget trichomes are produced toward the end of the plants life, it’s not going to see much benefit from all the carcasses falling to the ground.
Thesearch
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Whether or not you think it is of benefit to the plant or think it *should* happen, it appears to be correlated with bug attraction according to the op and others on here, though the addition of having it fall to the ground is probably complete bs. I dont want to defend those breeders' bs (alphakronik) but one and two pages back you can see this discussion briefly happen. I have heard it argued that brambles like blackberry trap animals with their thorns and could be considered carnivorous in this sense. Though they do not have digestive enzymes, this sort of action could give a seed nutritional advantage. Plants usually evolve this in areas of poor nitrogen. Sheppard's purse does this for it's seeds though they also produce a toxin and enzymes to digest the prey. Not gonna post about these guys again though as I dont want to.detract from this amazing thread. For anyone interested in thiol presence in cannabis there is a thread on future4200.com attempting to explore thiols in cannabis, of which I know of only one successfully tested for (possibly not though)
https://future4200.com/t/are-any-cannabis-labs-equipped-to-test-for-thiols/55084?u=peasandlovage
Thesearch
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Funny that the fallen angel description on devils harvest's page says nothing of its stink, they are definitely saying that the shoreline they have is the stinkiest plant thwy have worked with. Apparently their shoreline is actually the original shoreline crossed with oasis. Interesting read there for those interested. I would say it's worth checking out @dankwolf
https://thedevilsharvestseeds.com/buy-cannabis-seeds/shoreline/
https://thedevilsharvestseeds.com/buy-cannabis-seeds/shoreline/
