Dakines NEW Fresh Start-Multiple Strains

[rockymountainJ]

Nice Dak!! As for the TnT beans.... I went in not knowing what to expect, but am super happy!! From what I've popped and seen others... you'll be pleased!!
Rmj

 

[Dakine]

Hey RJ, Thanks for stoppin by! Its good to know that out of everyone who has tried TnT Labs Genetics, not 1 person has anything bad to say about them! Did you happen to take any clones to keep running or for moms?

 

[Dakine]

Small Update

Small Update

So in the next 2 pics we have the small SSSDH girl outside thats flowering and on her 49(?)th day of flowering. She was Vegged inside for 1 month from seed, and then topped and placed outside.(I know im an idiot) Shoulda let her veg for 2 more weeks after topping but oh well cant do anything now.



These are the size of all the other larf/small buds that wouldve grown into small colas if I vegged her after topping, They are approximately 1inch in height.



Next we have the 2-SSSDH Girls that are on there 5th day of flowering.. #2 Tall&Sturdy girl is now on the left right in front of the fan, to see if that helps with the heat issues/Leaves drooping/Claws.

The #1 Bushy SSSDH Girl is on the right and doing well. She is now showing a bunch of pre flowers everywhere..
I think I might train/bend/crush some stems on both plants to let the lower growth catch up. I've seen this done up to 1 month in flowering.

 

[rockymountainJ]

Hey RJ, Thanks for stoppin by! Its good to know that out of everyone who has tried TnT Labs Genetics, not 1 person has anything bad to say about them! Did you happen to take any clones to keep running or for moms?

Lol no I didn't know what to expect... I have plenty to go through still...

 

[Dakine]

Dang that sucks bro! I would DEF have tried to keep a cut of that Urkle Cross. That purple pheno you had looked so dank! The contrast on those nugs from the purple and Frosty trichomes was insane! What else are you gonna be growin from TnT LAbs?

I wanted to show everyone my 1clone experiment lol.. Since Ive been having 100% Success when trying to clone, I wanted to see how small of a clone I could try to root.. The top I took off while topping one of my clones was 1/4 of the size it is now, when I first took it. The leaves werent even touching the bigger hole in the picture on the cube.

I didnt take the cut with a bigger stem and then removed leaves and stuck it in. This top didnt have a stem AT ALL. It was literally a couple millimeters at most . I had to stuff the leaves down to where the small leaves it had where all sticking up, so I could get something inside the cube to stay moist.

 

[Dakine]

1st attempt at macro shot with my phone.

This shot is of a super little skywalker bud. I got some neem oil today and by the time i got home. the infestation on my outside girl was greatly increased since yesterday..



So I think im going to top all the clones I have. Im also going to give 4-5 clones to my friend so I can keep them under my limit. Im gonna wait till the end of the month since im going to top them before I put them into flower. I know I should be waiting longer but I just dont have the room. I want to keep 1 clone of each SSSDH Girl for moms.

This is the #1 Bushy Girl Clones



This is #2 Tall&Sturdy Girl Clones

 

[Dakine]

Help! Claw? Heat?!

Help! Claw? Heat?!

Oh no! I guess I was wrong you guys, the #2 Tall&Sturdy girl IS getting worse! More leaves are drooping. Now its just not the lower leafs any more. The newer growth isnt drooping as bad but some leaves are starting to twist?

I've noticed that A Fan leaf starts to fully go into the drooping mode when the middle leaf droops majorly.. I dont know if its just a coincidence but I looked at every leaf thats drooping and starting to droop and it all starts with the middle leaf or the leaf closest to being the middle leaf beginning to droop..

For the guys who dont know or havent stopped by before-

I even put #2Tall&Sturdy in front of the fan like I had #1Bushy girl.. The #1Bushy Girl doesnt have any leaves that are drooping.. Even in the same spot that #2 Tall&Sturdy was in, since I thought it couldve been because of heat...

I flushed #2Tall&Sturdy girl about 3-4 days ago and have watered twice with just plain water..



This is AFan Leaf from the very bottom, that was effected 2 months ago when I had that Deficiency problem. Never got fully green again. Idk if this has anything to do with drooping but I need to figure this out and fix it ASAP.

 

[GastroGrower]

Hmmm, I'm not sure what is going on with that. Good job catching the pattern on it though, interesting.

When a leaf yellows and has necrosis like your last picture, it's unlikely the plant will be able to get it to green up again.

 

[TnTLabs]

hey d,
sorry to hear you have problems...
so, id need a rundown of soil, nutes, lights, feeding water ph&ec, feeding schedue, ph & ec.. then it be easier to pin point...
you say you have a new ph pen? calibrate it and recheck your water... if you thought your ph was 5.8.. but is around 7 then you need to lower for sure...

BUT from what you have already told me.. looks like ph
Twisting leaves is mostly a ph problem...
looks like lockout..
give me some infos and we will take it from there

 

[Dakine]

K so ive been trying to remember my soiless mix by memory, but I just found my Soil/Mix Log.. This mix and my other mixes are placed in A Garbage bin and watered with Black Strap Molasses when needed.. Bins are opened once A day for Airflow,mixed once a week for about 3weeks or longer.

So for 1 Big Bag of FFOF(1.5 Cubic Ft) for my flowering plants, I mix it with

1/2 Cup Bat Guano-9-3-1
1/4 Cup Blood Meal-12-0-0
1/2 Cup Bone Meal
1/2 Cup Kelp Meal
1/2 Bag of Perlite. Whole Bag is about 1/2 size of Big FFOF Bag
Top Dressed with 1tsp Oystershells since I just got it.

This mix was placed at the bottom of the 3gal pots. I then added 1/4-1/2inch of just plain FFOF on top of that. Once Rootball/plant is in new/bigger pot I add plain FFOF to the sides/around the roots to fill the rest of the pot with..

400watt hps
Plain Tap Water- Every other day that I leave out for Atleast 24 hours. Apparently its about 7.2-7.4ph, oncce I leave it out 6.4-6.8ph .. Old pen said Tap Water was about 6.2ph and when I would leave it out , it would go down to about 5.4-5.8.. I tested the same bottled water and filtered water with new pen that I tested before with old pen and ph is the same for both..

Water+Nutrients(Feed) Every other Watering- 1 Gallon of Tap Water Left out for 24 hours,1/4tsp Dyna-Gro Grow,1/2tsp Cal Mag,1/2 Tsp Black Strap Molasses, and Half of the 1/16tsp of Raw-Potassium.. This is all at 1/2 the recommended feeding strength..

Right now im in 7days of flowering, I was supposed to switch out the Dyna Gro-Grow with the Bloom but I havent fed them since Day 2 of flower. I've been giving them Plain Tap Water since the Drooping/claw hasnt gotten any better

 

[Dankwolf]

K so ive been trying to remember my soiless mix by memory, but I just found my Soil/Mix Log.. This mix and my other mixes are placed in A Garbage bin and watered with Black Strap Molasses when needed.. Bins are opened once A day for Airflow,mixed once a week for about 3weeks or longer.

So for 1 Big Bag of FFOF(1.5 Cubic Ft) for my flowering plants, I mix it with

1/2 Cup Bat Guano-9-3-1
1/4 Cup Blood Meal-12-0-0
1/2 Cup Bone Meal
1/2 Cup Kelp Meal
1/2 Bag of Perlite. Whole Bag is about 1/2 size of Big FFOF Bag
Top Dressed with 1tsp Oystershells since I just got it.

This mix was placed at the bottom of the 3gal pots. I then added 1/4-1/2inch of just plain FFOF on top of that. Once Rootball/plant is in new/bigger pot I add plain FFOF to the sides/around the roots to fill the rest of the pot with..

400watt hps
Plain Tap Water- Every other day that I leave out for Atleast 24 hours. Apparently its about 7.2-7.4ph, oncce I leave it out 6.4-6.8ph .. Old pen said Tap Water was about 6.2ph and when I would leave it out , it would go down to about 5.4-5.8.. I tested the same bottled water and filtered water with new pen that I tested before with old pen and ph is the same for both..

Water+Nutrients(Feed) Every other Watering- 1 Gallon of Tap Water Left out for 24 hours,1/4tsp Dyna-Gro Grow,1/2tsp Cal Mag,1/2 Tsp Black Strap Molasses, and Half of the 1/16tsp of Raw-Potassium.. This is all at 1/2 the recommended feeding strength..

Right now im in 7days of flowering, I was supposed to switch out the Dyna Gro-Grow with the Bloom but I havent fed them since Day 2 of flower. I've been giving them Plain Tap Water since the Drooping/claw hasnt gotten any better

That is alot to add to ffof makeing for a hot soil .

The one pic has a curl like n over dose . and with that much n added plus the 9-3-1 added to ffof it would explain the over abundance of n (bat guano is vary available thats why alot of people wont use it). it also explains the leaf droop on middel to end of sun leafs .i am not sure what to do about n toxicity and i could be wroung but dought it .

You know my feeling on the ph of your tap water . if you lower the ph of your current tap water it might burn the shit out of your palnts in that rich soil mix .

Whats your soil ph testing at ? If its low like 6 you might benefit from adding lime to neutral out the mix for less nute aviablilty and the lime should help buffer the amount of amendments you added to a allready rich soil .

When ever i have used ffof i have had to add lime to keep soil from killing/locking out palnts at about 3 months of growing in it due to the peat base braking down and becoming acidic .

 

[Dankwolf]

I dont belive your first issue had any thing to do with this new one .

Soon as growth is damaged all you can do is roll with it and fix the issue so the new growth is normal .

 

[Dankwolf]

This leaf

This leaf

N obundance.

 

[Dakine]

I thought it woulda been fine since the blood meal and bat guano say to put 1-2tsp per each gallon. 1tsp=0.1FLoz and 1/2cup=0.5FLoz.. unless I'm understanding this wrong lol. But wouldn't A 1/2cup be for about 5gallons of soil or a little more? A bag is much more then that and since FFOF already has bat guano,and fish and crab meal I thought I was putting a perfect amount/less then what I should've put according to instructions? Idk it's just weird cause I don't think 5tsp=1/2cup lol.

Damn yah I know Dank wolf, my ficken water is throwing me off.. I think when I get home I'm going to try make the feeding water and test the ph of it.. I know I shouldn't try to retransplant the 2-SSSDH girls and I can't flush the nutes out either...

 

[Dankwolf]

I thought it woulda been fine since the blood meal and bat guano say to put 1-2tsp per each gallon. 1tsp=0.1FLoz and 1/2cup=0.5FLoz.. unless I'm understanding this wrong lol. But wouldn't A 1/2cup be for about 5gallons of soil or a little more? A bag is much more then that and since FFOF already has bat guano,and fish and crab meal I thought I was putting a perfect amount/less then what I should've put according to instructions? Idk it's just weird cause I don't think 5tsp=1/2cup lol.

Damn yah I know Dank wolf, my ficken water is throwing me off.. I think when I get home I'm going to try make the feeding water and test the ph of it.. I know I shouldn't try to retransplant the 2-SSSDH girls and I can't flush the nutes out either...

I would check soil ph first its alot more important then your water ph long as water is not like 3 or 9 lol.

Bat 9-3-1 fast acting real fast . you also put blood meal at 12-0-0 thats 21-3-1 if you dosed as box says (sounds n rich for flowering). plus what ever ypur soil already had .there are 24 tsp in a half cup so it would be good for like 18 to 24 gallons of unfertalized soil. that mix you made would dam near kill half my strains .

In the pm i sent you i said water ph is not that important .and i explained why to an exstent.

 

[TnTLabs]

K so ive been trying to remember my soiless mix by memory, but I just found my Soil/Mix Log.. This mix and my other mixes are placed in A Garbage bin and watered with Black Strap Molasses when needed.. Bins are opened once A day for Airflow,mixed once a week for about 3weeks or longer.

So for 1 Big Bag of FFOF(1.5 Cubic Ft) for my flowering plants, I mix it with

1/2 Cup Bat Guano-9-3-1
1/4 Cup Blood Meal-12-0-0
1/2 Cup Bone Meal
1/2 Cup Kelp Meal
1/2 Bag of Perlite. Whole Bag is about 1/2 size of Big FFOF Bag
Top Dressed with 1tsp Oystershells since I just got it.

This mix was placed at the bottom of the 3gal pots. I then added 1/4-1/2inch of just plain FFOF on top of that. Once Rootball/plant is in new/bigger pot I add plain FFOF to the sides/around the roots to fill the rest of the pot with..

400watt hps
Plain Tap Water- Every other day that I leave out for Atleast 24 hours. Apparently its about 7.2-7.4ph, oncce I leave it out 6.4-6.8ph .. Old pen said Tap Water was about 6.2ph and when I would leave it out , it would go down to about 5.4-5.8.. I tested the same bottled water and filtered water with new pen that I tested before with old pen and ph is the same for both..

Water+Nutrients(Feed) Every other Watering- 1 Gallon of Tap Water Left out for 24 hours,1/4tsp Dyna-Gro Grow,1/2tsp Cal Mag,1/2 Tsp Black Strap Molasses, and Half of the 1/16tsp of Raw-Potassium.. This is all at 1/2 the recommended feeding strength..

Right now im in 7days of flowering, I was supposed to switch out the Dyna Gro-Grow with the Bloom but I havent fed them since Day 2 of flower. I've been giving them Plain Tap Water since the Drooping/claw hasnt gotten any better

ok, im not a soil expert but that list already looks like overboard and then you are adding nutes too...
you should be doing one or the other.. go for light soil with nutes, or rich soil and no nutes...
dankwolf made some good points... check soil first!
like i say, no soil expert but from many years of experience in different mediums i can tell you less is more!

ive been using biotabs as of late and they do a perfect job, i just add water, now and then nutes when needed.. but not really.. they are about 2 ounces a tab for about a 3 gallon pot.
they consist mainly of feathermeal, seaweed, fishmeal, bloodmeal, humic acid and bacteria..
do the maths, but i think your mix isnt bad, maybe a bit hot for the size of the plants... definitely leave out the nutes and check your soil ph & ec if possible.. there lies the main problem i think

yes, let your water sit 24hrs.. or better bubble it for a few hrs and then water...get that in check.. and things should normalize

 

[Dakine]

Alright, right on you guys. I seriously appreciate the help. I thought I could use the same soil mix for the plants I usually dig a big hole and put outside, and just water with plain water and molasses..

I'm going to check the ph of my soil/run off and re check my tap water.. I usually only aerate the water when I'm also using molasses.. I'll start aerating the plain water and see how it does..

I'm gonna look into those bio tabs. Maybe it'll be easier for me? At least my grow right now is to getting everything dialed in and not for big yields cause I'd fail horribly haha..

I think I'll add another big bag of FFOF to the soil mix in the bin.. That should probably even things out and I'll have A good flowering mix for the upcoming girls. Unless you guys think it would still be to hot? I could add half a bag of Fox Farms Light Warrior instead or add both bags..

EDIT- The reason why I was using nutes to feed was because I thought my mix was to light lol.

Here is A Link I just looked at. Its about Organic Mixes/Nutes.. I was just looking in the Organics forum to get some help. I thought what I knew was good enough for what I am trying to do.. Lol I just got slapped in the face. We can never know enough, no matter how much we think we know. Knowledge is Power and im Power Hungry.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=53792

 

[rockymountainJ]

I use the lucky dog.... super light on anything... so can feed every feeding if I feel like it. I'm going to do a side by side soon with similar mix as my greenhouse, and water only in 10gal... well see. Hope you get all straightneed up... cheers bro!

 

[Dankwolf]

You mix is not all bad just rich. What you do to fix your already made up soil is dependent on what you plan to do . liquid nutes or not ?

If it were me i would go get a bag of peat based soiless like ss4 and mix it at 2parts yoyr soil mix 1 part ss4 and 1 part peralite and add like 1/2 tbs lime per gallon to counter act ph drop of peat and to help buffet soil . then you can still use nutes to correct issues that may arise .

I will show you a pic of the lime i use give me a sec

 

[Dankwolf]

Lime . i have use to correct soil ph with top dress aswell just took 2 weeks

Lime . i have use to correct soil ph with top dress aswell just took 2 weeks