Some buds will produce a gas as they cure, and I have always wondered if that was chlorophyl breaking down. What is the gas that gets released when a jar is burped?
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Curing how much does it help? how long to cure? Myth or truth, the longer the better ?
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Mimpi Manis
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Yes, the whole process is pretty interesting. I wonder anyone is doing any work on this? I vacuum pack mine after slow dry and generally get to it 2-5 months later mostly. Given the lack of air, most of it still loses the chlorophyll... and I dont 'burp' it till I load up my multi strain 'bento box' with a small ongoing vape supply. Seems to work. Next time I'll split a couple of strains between vacuum pack and burp jar and see what transpires. Not exacly science... but definitely a tributary. On another matter: I find swapping strains fairly regularly overcomes the old tolerance issue. As does a litlle mixing up of strains in the vape. All in all, quite a lot things we still don't know a whole lot about in relation to this amazing plant isn't there?
Douglas.Curtis
Autistic Diplomat in Training
That's me, or at least I've been preaching it for years now. Above 70F the more fragile monoterpenes start vaporizing off and making the room smell awesome. This also means your terpenes are going to be much less complex than if those monoterps had all been polymerized at some point during the grow or cure.
Grassy smell during dry? 9 times out of 10 the drying temps are above 70F at around 75F.
The longer the dry time the more terpenes are preserved. Two weeks is about the longest I've been able to stretch the dry without mold. YMMV.
But wait, there's more... (as previously mentioned) strain, phenotype and grow conditions make a huge difference as well. Case in point, Earlier this year I had a plant get chopped and quick dried to jars in 2 days due to temps and super low humidity. Damn that plant was tasty, complex and amazing despite such a short dry time and no cure. Really amazing.
CannaT
starin' at the world through my rearview
Did you find diferrence in time of curring between outdoor or indoor ?
The indoor ones cured earlier...less dense
Outdoors...I called this plant PST ... Panama Silver Tip.. lol
strangebabylon
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I live in a hot humid tropical country and we dont use AC in our house. What i found works the best for me to preserve terps e.tc is to remove fanleaves and hang the plants whole for 1-2 weeks in a corner of our hallway 2 meters away from a open mosquito netted window but with no direct sunlight hitting the actual plants during daytime.
Curing time for me depends on the type of weed. I'm not a fan of too pure sativas and for me most of them need atleast a month of curing before i can start enjoying it. I think the best way to describe it is that the longer cure helps taking the rough edges away from that very cerebal high that sometimes can make me pissed off/easily annoyed. Not in a less potent way but rather more rounded way.
More balanced hybrids and indicas i agree with most people in here that it starts loosing flavour and potency after about a month.
Also as someone who only vapes i find that the weed will always be better for vaping during the first 2 weeks or so. The freshness in flavour and vapor production are always best for me just after that very first week of cure.
Curing time for me depends on the type of weed. I'm not a fan of too pure sativas and for me most of them need atleast a month of curing before i can start enjoying it. I think the best way to describe it is that the longer cure helps taking the rough edges away from that very cerebal high that sometimes can make me pissed off/easily annoyed. Not in a less potent way but rather more rounded way.
More balanced hybrids and indicas i agree with most people in here that it starts loosing flavour and potency after about a month.
Also as someone who only vapes i find that the weed will always be better for vaping during the first 2 weeks or so. The freshness in flavour and vapor production are always best for me just after that very first week of cure.
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the bouquet is sensitive and easily lost if cannabis is allowed to dry and reabsorb moisture,
the tropics tends to allow reabsorption overnight , and its best not to allow this continually ,
a room where the humidity and heat is constant is best to maintain aromas and flavors ,
in order to dry the product successfully,
then seal the product so as not to allow anymore "breathing"
be aware it will absorb moisture in the humidity when u open it again ,
only expose small amounts , the amount u will imbibe at a time ,
failure to do so will result in loss of bouquet , and important terpenes will be lost at the same time,
this will affect the high and perception of potency ....
the tropics tends to allow reabsorption overnight , and its best not to allow this continually ,
a room where the humidity and heat is constant is best to maintain aromas and flavors ,
in order to dry the product successfully,
then seal the product so as not to allow anymore "breathing"
be aware it will absorb moisture in the humidity when u open it again ,
only expose small amounts , the amount u will imbibe at a time ,
failure to do so will result in loss of bouquet , and important terpenes will be lost at the same time,
this will affect the high and perception of potency ....
Yes time makes a difference imo. 14 days minimum to get any flavor and smoke starting. 30 days to get smooth smoke and quality flavor. If you can maintain 55-60% humidity it will continue the decarboxylation process and cure. It's been awhile since I've cured any decent amount but there is a point where the sedative properties really kick in after the 14 day mark but before the 30 day point.
The only time I've ever had 1 hit shit was some afghani the person claimed to have cured for 7 years. I've had a hard time not smoking stuff after 30 days myself.
The only time I've ever had 1 hit shit was some afghani the person claimed to have cured for 7 years. I've had a hard time not smoking stuff after 30 days myself.
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Douglas.Curtis
Autistic Diplomat in Training
Based on this answer I would strongly recommend changing things up the next few runs. Your cannabis should be tasty and potent at harvest, while the cure takes all those amazing flavors and odors and makes them better over time.
Over feeding (organic and non-organic) reduces terpene production. By the time you can visibly see you have overfed a plant the quality has taken a massive hit.
moose eater
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I've cured (initialy inadvertantly or unintentionally) sealed in air-tight bags/pouches in the freezers for longer term. Minimal loss of the potency in this regard.
Initial drying time is approximately the same as yours, as well as 'curing in what ever containers afterward, unfrozen; similar to you.
BUT, many years ago I stopped by a friend's home in another town here, and he got out some weed from his freezer that blew my socks off. I asked him what it was, and he replied, "It's yours. The California Indica". (Dronkers' Sensi Seeds I brought back from Holland in 1997; my now 25-year-old mother, clone to clone to clone).
The cannabis will continue to cure, sealed in the freezer, apparently, but much more slowly, with the freezer preventing faster/greater degradation of the quality of the high.
Since those days, I have stored all of my pot in sealed bags in the freezers, which, at our home, are kept at about -10 to -15 f.
Admittedly, it is a bit embarassing when someone hands you a joint or pipe of your own weed, and it's not clear as to what it is.
EDIT: NOTE!! Do not use self-defrosting freezers to store anything long term. Use only manual-defrost freezers for long-term storage of anything.
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I prefer fresh within a month rather than long-term …
Not sure how you can smoke an undried plant. Depending on material size and environment it could take 3-10 days until you get stem snap. It has been my experience that the slower the decarboxylation transpires the better the end result in all aspects regarding flavor, smoothness, and psychoactive influences.
I did try some stuff at a dispensary that was "quick cured" with liquid nitrogen. It made me greensick. I pretty much expect it and only bought a gram to be able to say I tried it. I've also tried water curing. Taste is blah but the affect is the good. Neither of these methods imo provide quality cannabis for smoking. Smooth mature smoke takes time to create. That is why we cure it slowly.
IMO decent bud is at least 30 days from chop to pipe. Each to their own. I'll stick with the method simon posted. Hang until snap. Take it to 60% RH and try to keep it above 55% for as long as possible. I'm not saying it isn't "tasty" or "good" before 30 days. Just that I think after 30 days it improves even more as it mellows and the psychoactive profiles continue to change with slow and controlled air exchange over time.
A person can tell me time in cure doesn't make a difference. Based upon personal experience I will never be able to agree with that statement.
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If you are vaping then try it .a little wetter. The terps and high will amaze you.
