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Crop Steering in coco. How to determine optimal EC?

cannalyst

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The conductivity measurement isn't very useful beyond verification of a known solution.

In order to deliver precision nutrient you'd need to calculate for the elemental requirement of the plant and dose accordingly.

Nutrient lines abstract away this knowledge for profit and have everyone blindly dosing their crops to mixed effect.
 

Ca++

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Dosing individual elements is awkward, even if you can measure what's been taken.
If we had the perfect feed to start with, the speed the plant takes each element, isn't equal. The K might be taken in hours, and putting it back at the rate it was vanishing, would be toxic. We see N studies of 160ppm in dwc, but that solution might last a week, with a top up solution being used, that doesn't have everything in it. If we keep N constant, it's more like 30ppm needed.

Now as we look at our commercial feeds, we should be able to see that one suited for 6 fertigations per day, may not be so suited for a DWC meant to run a few days. Some feeds will talk of using less EC with higher frequency fertigation. It's hard to be more specific with their formulations, as all our plants differ somewhat in their daily needs.

It's not all doom & gloom though. We have people here, doing well, with tanks set for long term us. There is an idea that the feed is either in the tank, or in the plant, it can't escape. So all you really need do is top up. Which they do with the same feed. It works. Though in fact, the top up feed should actually be a bit more specific. If we could formulate that. It has a name, but it's not engaging my brain right now
 

LostTribe

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Jacks 321 full strength. Make sure you get 15% runoff every watering. Nothing more nothing less. You arent going to re invent the wheel. And LED sucks in my very honest opinion due to lack of heat for your root zone and your leaf zone FYI. No point in LED as this fad came around for the cost saving of running these lights. Well they dont take into account you will have to run heating directly into the garden to compensate which defeats the purpose and nullifies any cost savings whatsoever.
 

Ca++

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If you are going to practice crop steering with a couple of drybacks late stretch, then an organic soil grower need not worry, but a more hydro like (available food in water) might mean a lower ec for those times. To combat the expected rise.

This is all in flux really, but hard dry backs in veg likely trigger a veg response, that involves growing a bigger root system to assist if it happens again. Growing a bigger root system is nice, though you might not want to spend time doing so.
Later in bloom, we pretty much can't grow a new root. Not watering, will be more like a trigger to stop getting bigger, and hurry up.
Reports are still coming in, but there is a strong lean towards losses when people try and steer with dry-backs during bloom. They are a vegetative trigger. To be used when vegetative root growth is wanted.

Next year, I might be eating my words. This is where we are today though. Withholding during bloom, is just looking a bit crazy, as we work faster and faster plants. The long flowering guys might tease out more roots though, if for some reason they didn't have a good veg period.
 
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