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Crippy - Pre86 OG KUSH
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ValleyIsleFire
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Looks fiya Stoney!
So is it gas or is it fruity garbage? I've grown lots of each but never crippy. Never heard one strain described as both tho, the 2 are totally different smells..
Still look killer to me deezy. I can see plenty of frost. Sugar leaves still look like sugar leaves to me, lol.
wow they look totally different in deez and stoney's gardens. very interesting 
stoney's just having beginners luck lmfao
but really, I gotta figure out why my shit is not on point like usual...scratching my head over here...
but really, I gotta figure out why my shit is not on point like usual...scratching my head over here...
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What temps and rh in there??
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I dont know much, but i been around the block for a long time now...back in 03' I was in SFV socal, I scored an unknown "kush" from a medical bag, eing from NY this was my first exp w REAL kush. you could tell it was OG grown, outside or greenhouse. BEST WEED I HAD EVER HAD, took the beans home and worked her for atleast 3 years till my then noobish ass lost her...
Then, years later I take a trip to visit my cousin in Miami/Dade county...we were smokin on crippy, thats what he insisted it was, and BOY was it fuckin good.
I cant remember which came first, the Kush I got back in 03 in the valley on my trip (the original monster kush, or rotten kush I believe) OR smoking crippy w my cuz in miami.
different highs. crippy had me floating away. the Kush had me scared to leave the house hahaha. (my avatar is that kush I magically came home with back in 03 from the valley)
Then, years later I take a trip to visit my cousin in Miami/Dade county...we were smokin on crippy, thats what he insisted it was, and BOY was it fuckin good.
I cant remember which came first, the Kush I got back in 03 in the valley on my trip (the original monster kush, or rotten kush I believe) OR smoking crippy w my cuz in miami.
different highs. crippy had me floating away. the Kush had me scared to leave the house hahaha. (my avatar is that kush I magically came home with back in 03 from the valley)
78-79f and 60-65% rh with lights on...shit is just unusual...I havent changed a thing in years, other than now I'm trying to stay in the vpd sweet spot and I'm using co2 @ 1000ppm...could be having offgassing issues in the container I suppose but I'd rather look towards myself as the problem at this point...having a toxic grow room environment could be enough to take me out of the game lol
BUT, I feed WAY lighter than most, and I really think I was able to get away with that in previous setups just because the rate of growth was slower than it is now...I think these girls are just hungry tbh, but I've been reluctant to just add more nutes because if what I'm seeing is something other than underfed, adding more nutes is likely to make things worse not better...I'm thinking about running my base nutrient levels to the recommended "light feed" levels on canna's chart, currently running at about 50-60% of the recommended "light feed" levels, but like I said I havent had a problem with this mix for years...
does anyone happen to know off the top of their head what ppm/ec the 6/9 rez/head formula is? I'm honestly considering going back to h&g base and using it at the levels that I matched it to the 6/9 mix years ago. Canna's rep was a fucking prick when I emailed them asking about using their a & b at different levels in order to get my desired nute profile...something I successfully did for years with h&g.
Take a full pic in order to get a full prospective of the plant.
The Problem might be your light feeding, You can't just supercharge their hunger with Co2 then starve them on the nutes.
the crippy thread probably isnt the most appropriate place to discuss my issues, but:
that's the thing, I've consistently hit my best yields and best quality with this mix for over 3 years...the only things that really make any sense would be a) too light of feed for current demands b) the local water supply has gotten drastically worse at the current level of drought, I know our ground water levels have fallen significantly recently...the unadjusted ph of my solution has gone from always being about 6.1 to always being around 6.8. I believe we use ground water and not a reservoir...c) having offgassing issues, the problems I've had are similar to offgassing issues I had in a cheap amazon tent a while back. and d)residual effects of a root aphid problem that was dealt with when the current run was at around 2 weeks in 12-12....
so there are a few possibilities, some more likely than others...pretty sure I'll get it under control soon though..
that's the thing, I've consistently hit my best yields and best quality with this mix for over 3 years...the only things that really make any sense would be a) too light of feed for current demands b) the local water supply has gotten drastically worse at the current level of drought, I know our ground water levels have fallen significantly recently...the unadjusted ph of my solution has gone from always being about 6.1 to always being around 6.8. I believe we use ground water and not a reservoir...c) having offgassing issues, the problems I've had are similar to offgassing issues I had in a cheap amazon tent a while back. and d)residual effects of a root aphid problem that was dealt with when the current run was at around 2 weeks in 12-12....
so there are a few possibilities, some more likely than others...pretty sure I'll get it under control soon though..
There goes your answer, they just got stunted by the aphid war.
Also I would still bump up the feed when using Co2 tho and trust me off gassing would have took you out the game a long time ago.
Just mixed up some 6/9 for vegging plants last night. Right at 790 ppm on the. . 7 scale with 10 ppm ro. You should be hitting 1-1.1 everytime
Scale is equal to the ppm it takes to equal 1.0 electrical conductivity. E.C. Is what the device actually measures.
So at 500 scale 500ppms is 1.0
At 700 scale 700 ppms is 1.0 E. C.
ec multiplied by scale is equal to ppms. And to translate ec from ppms divide ppm by scale.
600 ppms divided by 500 scale is 1.2
840ppm divided by 700scale is 1.2 e.c
This is where it can get confusing. Unless we are talking on the universal language of e. C. We can't know what strength someone's ppms are unless we know scale.
1000 ppms is either 2.0 or 1.4 ec. So if you told me to feed at 1.4ec on a euro meter you'd be telling me 1000 ppms. But if I have a 500 scale meter and we don't realize this. I'd be unknowingly be feeding at 2.0 instead of 1.4 ec. I always try to encourage folks to talk ec or state scale in addition to ppms.
Ppm is a translation of units from what the device actually measures, e. C.
It is programmed to display in ppm which it just computes based on scale. It doesn't actually count any parts. It measures the electrical implications of the existence of the parts it's pretending to count. The salts we use directly correlate to the conductivity of water which is measured in numerical units. Europe and America have a different standard for calculating the assumed ppms for a given rate of conductivity
So at 500 scale 500ppms is 1.0
At 700 scale 700 ppms is 1.0 E. C.
ec multiplied by scale is equal to ppms. And to translate ec from ppms divide ppm by scale.
600 ppms divided by 500 scale is 1.2
840ppm divided by 700scale is 1.2 e.c
This is where it can get confusing. Unless we are talking on the universal language of e. C. We can't know what strength someone's ppms are unless we know scale.
1000 ppms is either 2.0 or 1.4 ec. So if you told me to feed at 1.4ec on a euro meter you'd be telling me 1000 ppms. But if I have a 500 scale meter and we don't realize this. I'd be unknowingly be feeding at 2.0 instead of 1.4 ec. I always try to encourage folks to talk ec or state scale in addition to ppms.
Ppm is a translation of units from what the device actually measures, e. C.
It is programmed to display in ppm which it just computes based on scale. It doesn't actually count any parts. It measures the electrical implications of the existence of the parts it's pretending to count. The salts we use directly correlate to the conductivity of water which is measured in numerical units. Europe and America have a different standard for calculating the assumed ppms for a given rate of conductivity
Deezy...
I started having trouble for first time w canna when I went to 5 gal buckets for my plants...
(After years of superior smaller plants)..so as I was trying to figure out what I was doing wrong I finally decided to strip away everything and go super light ppm's(which as you know were already light)
The first three strains to show the effects were wifi43...Chem d..and Chem d x Chem 91..and your pic looks to me like it needs more of everything...a and b and calmag...especially w gas...
Since stripping everything down I've already brought the levels back up...1100 ppm max on Chem d (run to waste) and she spits out 6-700 ppms runoff everyday w 1 gal of clean water prior to her feeding every third day...and that's no co2...I drop her down after 42-45 days...then flush...and you know how clean my shit burns...these Chem are NOT overfed....
Point being...w canna nutes and attention...bump that shit up! Ha
After all that...its prob also residual from R.A...
I started having trouble for first time w canna when I went to 5 gal buckets for my plants...
(After years of superior smaller plants)..so as I was trying to figure out what I was doing wrong I finally decided to strip away everything and go super light ppm's(which as you know were already light)
The first three strains to show the effects were wifi43...Chem d..and Chem d x Chem 91..and your pic looks to me like it needs more of everything...a and b and calmag...especially w gas...
Since stripping everything down I've already brought the levels back up...1100 ppm max on Chem d (run to waste) and she spits out 6-700 ppms runoff everyday w 1 gal of clean water prior to her feeding every third day...and that's no co2...I drop her down after 42-45 days...then flush...and you know how clean my shit burns...these Chem are NOT overfed....
Point being...w canna nutes and attention...bump that shit up! Ha
After all that...its prob also residual from R.A...
Thanks for the derail...been helping with some ?'s i have had.
Are you figuring in the starting water into the 1.6-1.7 as well? Or is that on top of starting water?
Are you figuring in the starting water into the 1.6-1.7 as well? Or is that on top of starting water?
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