craigs#### in co/wa ya'll lucky peeps

[skullznroses]

So let me get this straight.. if you use seeds your a REAL grower, but clones are for weenies.

AAAAAAha Wow glad I tuned in for this piece of enlightenment.

Its almost like you said vegan cheese is actually real cheese 'round here

 

[Nosmo King]

So let me get this straight.. if you use seeds your a REAL grower, but clones are for weenies.

AAAAAAha Wow glad I tuned in for this piece of enlightenment.

Its almost like you said vegan cheese is actually real cheese 'round here

Does sound a little hippycritical....but you can get beans as well.

Having other outlets helps consumer and supplier

Growers don't have to depend on the established hierarchy nor do the buyers

CL was a godsend for renters and landlords...it works for cannabis

Just don't be timid...be aware.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

only newbs and desperate folks use Craigslist or thugtrader to get shit.....you have to be seriously un-connected to be forced to use those websites.

i had a friend from a non med state always telling me to "go on thugtrader and buy some of those super cheap 1600 LBs of the best high grades and il come out and get them"....no thanks homie, not trying to get robbed or busted.

 

[Hydro-Soil]

That's ridiculous.

I am a seed popping maniac but clones are an essential part of the industry.

You honestly think some of the biggest players in the game are filling their warehouses with seed plants?

No, but they're retards if they picked up their clones from craigslist or thugtrader.

The big players generally start from seed or clones from a TRUSTED source. Even then they are treated like diseased animals until known to be 'clean'.

Of course their rooms are full of clones, that's a given. Wow.

Stay Safe!

 

[Weird]

So let me get this straight.. if you use seeds your a REAL grower, but clones are for weenies.

AAAAAAha Wow glad I tuned in for this piece of enlightenment.

Its almost like you said vegan cheese is actually real cheese 'round here

If I needed other peoples keepers or online avenues like craig's list to do what I had to do I wouldn't pound my chest like I knew wtf time it was.

lax laws don't make people better growers just gets more people who were didn't wouldn't or couldn't do it before doing it now.

I bred my own strains, did my own seed runs and had found my own keepers well before there was an commercial internet and if I didn't learn how to do it on my own I would have simply been shit out of luck because there were no shortcuts, no handouts, no mentors, no people, bathing me in genes, just passion.

here is one of many multi progeny/strain seed runs i've done

room is in between weeks 4-5 weeks

 

[Weird]

if you cant create your own game from seed you shouldn't bash people who can

 

[skullznroses]

Getting bashed for using seeds and creating your own stuff, if thats the case you brought it on yourself. Nobody here has a vendetta against seeds.. it seems its clones from seeds that are suspect for some reason.

somebody needs a Grower of the Year Award or something

 

[HidingInTheHaze]

Too many ASS-sumptions in this thread.

 

[greenmatter]

Bugs and mold ship just effectively as fake cuts too ;-)

i've had PM twice and it was because i foolishly trusted someone who had a clone ....... in colorado

that shit won't be happening a third time

 

[Weird]

Getting bashed for using seeds and creating your own stuff, if thats the case you brought it on yourself. Nobody here has a vendetta against seeds.. it seems its clones from seeds that are suspect for some reason.

somebody needs a Grower of the Year Award or something
https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=39036&pictureid=1065482View Image

Some dude said people bashing clones don't know shit and no one bashed clones just added said its a shortcut that comes at the cost of very valuable experience that can be gained doing it the "old fashioned" way. what you see in pictures ended up in jars so people can say shit to me and try to bash me, lol. When I fail at what I do i'll take it to heart. Now make a broad statement and tell me how you work craigs list lol im gonna call you out on it. Tell me how you need other peoples clones to get game and ill call you on that one too.

 

[negative37dBA]

i've had PM twice and it was because i foolishly trusted someone who had a clone ....... in colorado

that shit won't be happening a third time

Yes, yes and more yes. If you do pick up clones from a unknown or even known source you really should be isolating them from the rest of your plants. Many times clones have infected gardens.
I am not against clones. I just personally do not use them. I have plenty of my own seeds/strains to keep busy and happy. Have known a couple others who got bugs and such from even dispensary clones much less completley unknown people. Just watch out.

 

[STUNKY]

Wow didn't wanna step on any toes.. Respect to you all. Even when u start from seed it's best to have a good genetic line ,that just doesn't come easy sometimes in some places.
The purpose of this thread was to say wow people look what is becoming a norm people putting pot plants on craigslist. In other words we are being more accepted with less persecution. I mean shit not only are there clones on craigslist but also seeds.
Learning from scratch is very respectful,takes work and a lotta trail and error.Thats how i learned.But the Internet has made this a little easier. This is how it is now.

 

[skullznroses]

Some dude said people bashing clones don't know shit and no one bashed clones just added said its a shortcut that comes at the cost of very valuable experience that can be gained doing it the "old fashioned" way. what you see in pictures ended up in jars so people can say shit to me and try to bash me, lol. When I fail at what I do i'll take it to heart. Now make a broad statement and tell me how you work craigs list lol im gonna call you out on it. Tell me how you need other peoples clones to get game and ill call you on that one too.

alright, fair enough. that weed does look damn good, but...

You're beating a puppy with a baseball bat.

BTW my plants used to have seeds in them when I grew before the Internet Weed Planet happened. I think a lot of people used to be breeders back in the day... we just planted them next year cuase thats the obvious thing to do.

 

[STUNKY]

Clones can be like a slutty bitch. Sometimes u don't know what they got till its to late.. Excuse the French.. There is no way I would bring a outsider in without nearly 2 weeks of isolation. Even then I would be tempted to clean down to bear roots to make sure something isn't hiding in there..

 

[Weird]

Too many ASS-sumptions in this thread.


Weird, why is it almost every thread you post in these days has half a page of self promotion?
Who was bashing you? lol

So going by this thread, if use clones you can't grow.
If you get something on CL it has to be garbage.
If you don't grow from seed you must be an amateur.

Ridiculousness, all of it.

none of that existed when I started and I didn't have the same pain getting satisfactory results

self promotion? no. promotion of what a weed can do in average garden? yeah

I never said I was better than anyone, I simply found the plant ridiculously easy to work with.

maybe if more people stopped trying to shortcut mastery with research and other peoples genetics instead of balancing it with patience and real life application more people would have the same appreciation.

but please do tell how people can fly out to wa and co and mail themselves cuts to get ahead

just like cali weeds most of those commercial strains are the new bsters and still dont challenge the top shelf exotics market in illegal markets so learn the hard way. one more dude running a commercially available clone ... whoopdie doooo!

Plus this is a site that promote the breeding and sale of seed, not criminal activity so as abrasive as my find my little expose at least its in line with the spirit of the site

 

[Weird]

alright, fair enough. that weed does look damn good, but...

You're beating a puppy with a baseball bat.

BTW my plants used to have seeds in them when I grew before the Internet Weed Planet happened. I think a lot of people used to be breeders back in the day... we just planted them next year cuase thats the obvious thing to do.

no im not

i am not cruel like that and im not dumb

if I thought anything I did was beyond anyone else's capacity I would never open my mouth

ever

in the simplest of terms plants are "programmed" to express a full potential and it is a combination of environment and genetics that expresses it and at our best we simply keep from doing something to fuck it up

i.e. give it improper ph, light, air quality, etc and so forth

when you give it any plant the proper elements in an environment for it to shine expression is maximized.

almost anything I have run i ran several times to test it to make sure I wasn't limiting its potential and it wasn't until I treated plants with that integrity that I learned how much of their best was on me. In 20 + years im still learning this lesson that less is more especially in the way of adopting recycled organic living soil. The plant wants to give you its all it just needs the right elements.

I think there is a potential collective of what has been learned through unorthodox methods (product of prohibition) that added a different perspective if nothing else.

Im a cynic and im a human who has battled through life with demons all over my back and its allowed me to fuck most anything in my life up, this plant wouldn't let me do that to it, its better than that. That is the synergy between plant and man when you take it full circle, or at least my experience it was.

the plant can make you quick money and get you stoned, but it can do so much more too, it can heal you as a human being and restore your capacities and i learned this through consequence not intention.

short cuts remove certain dynamics that are too beneficial to ignore.

Now would I take the same short cuts if I were born into to today's world? yeah

would I get the same benefits without? i dont get them know from other peoples weeds so I cant answer honestly but the prospect scares me enough to be butting heads in this thread (i hate harshing vibes tbh) regardless

 

[HidingInTheHaze]

none of that existed when I started and I didn't have the same pain getting satisfactory results

self promotion? no. promotion of what a weed can do in average garden? yeah

I never said I was better than anyone, I simply found the plant ridiculously easy to work with.

maybe if more people stopped trying to shortcut mastery with research and other peoples genetics instead of balancing it with patience and real life application more people would have the same appreciation.

but please do tell how people can fly out to wa and co and mail themselves cuts to get ahead

just like cali weeds most of those commercial strains are the new bsters and still dont challenge the top shelf exotics market in illegal markets so learn the hard way. one more dude running a commercially available clone ... whoopdie doooo!

Plus this is a site that promote the breeding and sale of seed, not criminal activity so as abrasive as my find my little expose at least its in line with the spirit of the site

Ok so you caught me before I decided it wasnt worth it and edited. But since you replied so will I.

I just dont see how growing a clone is side stepping mastery. Not every situation is as black and white as peeps in this thread are making it out to be.

Like making the assumption that if you grow a clone or you want a certain clone you must be an amateur that cant grow.

When in reality there are plenty of people that grow from seed and clone. Being able to grow from seed and locate worthy keepers is a learned skill. I pop a lot of seed per year but I also grow clones from what ever keepers I find grow after grow. Being able to regenerate a clone, grow it many times while dialing it in is also worthwhile skill that one must obtain on the road to mastery.

And Im not saying fly out to CO to buy clones to get ahead, some people just want shit to have the experience of growing it. I was just stating it wont be long til people are doing that and it is going to be hard to keep the weed and clones in CO.

Where I come from the average smoker doesn't give a shit about a name or whats hot in cali, they just want good weed. And for those that don't know there is plenty of it out there in seed form if you know what to look for.

As for what I said about self promotion, that was a poor choice of wording. It just seems like in a lot of your posts you are trying to turn it into a 100 page argument like the everybody a breeder thread. No harm no foul, I respect your work it just seems like you take a lot of shit as a person attack. There is difference of opinion, and difference of situation, lets not lose sight.

P.S the true master never considers himself a master, because he knows you never stop learning

 

[HOPS5K]

I really only messed with Cragislist once for a vehicle, and it was a good transaction.

As for weed, I don't think I'd go to the site for 'Leet Genetics...you might end up with someone elses 'Leet Genetics on you or something with all the creepy fools out there.

 

[mrcreosote]

I might buy clones if I knew the smoke and I could see that they weren't coming from a bugfest.

No bugs in my room, thanks.

But seed ,clone, who cares? Da jar be da thang.

 

[xmobotx]

yeah weird; i think your point is valid~ and; i for 1 defo am glad i chucked the pollen i have

clones make a ton of sense for making a seed plant go further ~esp getting the most out of a great pheno

something about picking up someone else's clones makes me think it would be best if its someone you know

idk what it is about craigslist but i think the only spot where i havent just been totally wasting my time w/ it is when i got worms from marle ~and thats an established business using c/l for some advert/publicity.......... individuals on there can seem a little sketchy