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Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

  • yes, gimme

    Votes: 29 31.9%
  • not yet

    Votes: 15 16.5%
  • no way

    Votes: 47 51.6%

  • Total voters
    91
  • Poll closed .

Microbeman

The Logical Gardener
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i didn't know i had virus in my mind - but makes sense, since virus is every-fucking-where (and why is that? what is the source(s)?) ... well, not anymore i guess, due to the all the anti-virus psilocybin i ingest.

definitely always clears my sinuses...now he nose why.
 

unclefishstick

Fancy Janitor
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Hammerhead

Disabled Farmer
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i didn't know i had virus in my mind - but makes sense, since virus is every-fucking-where (and why is that? what is the source(s)?) ... well, not anymore i guess, due to the all the anti-virus psilocybin i ingest.

It's not just your body that feels the effects of a Virus. I'll betcha you'll feel better taking any Hallucinogen. :D. How many do you know that have taken psilocybin for Covid or are the antivaxers against that as well?. Ill gladly take your dose..
 

BudToaster

Well-known member
Veteran
It's not just your body that feels the effects of a Virus. I'll betcha you'll feel better taking any Hallucinogen. :D. How many do you know that have taken psilocybin for Covid or are the antivaxers against that as well?. Ill gladly take your dose..

i say no to drugs - shrooms and cannabis are plants, i.e. naturalceuticals.
 

buzzmobile

Well-known member
Veteran
Was serious question I’m not sure what the number 42 means as your response..whatever

The number 42 is especially significant to fans of science fiction novelist Douglas Adams' “The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy,” because that number is the answer given by a supercomputer to “the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything.”
 

Hammerhead

Disabled Farmer
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i say no to drugs - shrooms and cannabis are plants, i.e. naturalceuticals.

lol, I said yes to almost every drug made as a kid. As an adult Weed and shrooms is all I like. If I need an ER visit they will dope me up good to get me walking again..At my age being high is a good thing :D.
 

star crash

We Will Get By ... We Will Survive
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The number 42 is especially significant to fans of science fiction novelist Douglas Adams' “The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy,” because that number is the answer given by a supercomputer to “the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything.”
But of course:biggrin: !
 

flylowgethigh

Non-growing Lurker
ICMag Donor
So is it more dangerous to be vaccinated , or is it more dangerous to be unvaccinated? …Can someone please give me a concise answer… Not that ICMAG would be the best source of information:chin: …I don’t wanna see charts or statistics

You have had it, you beat it, and now you are stronger. Why the F would you then put Klaus' damn experimental jab in?
 

star crash

We Will Get By ... We Will Survive
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What exactly are you afraid of? I guess I’m one of those people that just believe it’s beneficial to be vaccinated against this disease
 

flylowgethigh

Non-growing Lurker
ICMag Donor
The VAERS database has shown a lot of issues. Jab if you wanna get jabbed, I personally won't. Freedom of choice. 'Merica.

But the fact it knocked you down with all the dope you smoke, sure shoots down my theory about terps killing the virus.
 

Absolem

Active member
Just for the fun of it people who are alive are reporting their deaths on the VAERS system. And people that take what's posted on the VAERS system as data better up their game.

https://vaers.hhs.gov/about.html

"VAERS is not designed to determine if a vaccine caused a health problem, but is especially useful for detecting unusual or unexpected patterns of adverse event reporting that might indicate a possible safety problem with a vaccine."
 
What exactly are you afraid of? I guess I’m one of those people that just believe it’s beneficial to be vaccinated against this disease

The question is and should be "what are you afraid of?". And everyone should be free to answer that for themselves and make their own choice. If you are more afirad of the virus then maybe get the jab.
Me personally I'm more afraid of the jab than the virus and that only comes from what ive seen/witnessed. Not data or infirnation, but actual knowledge - what I know, not what ive been told. I've made it this far through this pandemic, I've survived this "deadly virus" for two years without so much as a sniffle so for me, personally, and from what ive seen first hand of the virus and the jab, I think I'll take my chances with the virus. Especially as I pprobably already have antibodies and even if I dont, the Omicron is far less severe anyway from what im reading but far more transmissible so I'll have antibodies soon one way or another anyway.
But that is all irrelevant. It doesn't matter and it shouldnt matter what I or anyone else does. It should be up to you to make your own choice.

(But for those choosing to be jabbed: "You cant get 3 jabs and then say you feel unprotected by me not having a jab. Thats basically saying you dont believe your jab works. And if you're saying your vaccine doesnt work, surely thats more antivax than anything.")
 

Chi13

Well-known member
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So is it more dangerous to be vaccinated , or is it more dangerous to be unvaccinated? …Can someone please give me a concise answer… Not that ICMAG would be the best source of information:chin: …I don’t wanna see charts or statistics
It's more dangerous getting Coronavirus than getting vaccinated.

Vaccine Side Effects vs. COVID-19 Damage? There’s No Comparison

Experts say that the mild and rare side effects from COVID-19 vaccines are nowhere near as serious as the potential damage the disease itself can cause.
  • They say that the long-term consequences of COVID-19 can include increased risk of stroke, lung damage, Alzheimer’s disease, and Parkinson’s disease.
  • They add that there have been reports of rare cases of Bell’s palsy developing from COVID-19 vaccines but that the rate appears to be lower than that of the general population.
All data and statistics are based on publicly available data at the time of publication. Some information may be out of date. Visit our coronavirus hub and follow our live updates page for the most recent information on the COVID-19 pandemic.

Which would you rather have: muscle fatigue or permanent lung damage?

Would you prefer mild, short-term inflammation around the heart or severe damage to that organ that could lead to heart failure?

Would you rather have moderate pain in your upper arm for a few days or increase the possibility of developing Parkinson’s disease or Alzheimer’s disease?

These are just a few examples of the stark contrast between the side effects of COVID-19 vaccines and developing the disease itself.

While the vaccines’ side effects are mild and short, the damage caused by COVID-19 can be long lasting and even fatal.

As of this week, more than 330 million doses of COVID-19 vaccine have been administered in the United States, and nearly 158 million people here are now fully vaccinated.

So far, the most common physical reactionsTrusted Source to the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines are tiredness, headache, muscle pain, chills, fever, nausea, sore throat, diarrhea, and vomiting.

There have been some reports of rare but more serious side effects from the vaccines.

In late June, scientists at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) announcedTrusted Source that there’s a rare but “likely association” between the Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech mRNA vaccines and a higher risk of heart inflammation, particularly in adolescents and young adults.

These include cases of myocarditis, which is inflammation of the heart muscle, and pericarditis, which is inflammation of the outer lining of the heart.

In both, the body’s immune system causes inflammation in response to an infection or some other trigger.

Through follow-up, including medical record reviews, CDC and Food and Drug Administration (FDA) officials have confirmed 518 reports of myocarditis or pericarditis.

But these conditions have produced mild cases, with no deaths or lingering issues reported.

The people who develop these conditions usually return to normal daily activities in just a few days when their symptoms improve, but they’re advised by CDC officials to speak with their doctor about returning to exercise or sports.

The CDC continues to recommendTrusted Source COVID-19 vaccinations for everyone 12 years old and older, given the risk of COVID-19 illness and related, possibly severe complications.

Dr. Stuart Berger, a pediatric cardiologist and medical director of the pediatric Heart Center at Lurie Children’s Hospital in Chicago, told Healthline that the vaccines are quite safe.

The heart inflammation tends to occur in men ages 16 to 24. Berger noted that the CDC is looking at some 500 cases out of more than 170 million vaccinated people in that adolescent and young adult demographic.

“That puts it at .00025 percent. That is very rare,” he said. “From what we know, it is actually less common than myocarditis in the general population.”
The serious consequences of COVID-19
On the other hand, even if you survive COVID-19, the disease can do permanent damage to the heart.

Imaging tests taken months after recovery from COVID-19 have shown lasting damage to the heart muscle, even in people who experienced only mild COVID-19 symptoms.

This may increase the risk of heart failure or other heart complications in the future.

The type of pneumonia often associated with COVID-19 can also cause long-lasting damage to the tiny air sacs (alveoli) in the lungs. The resulting scar tissue can lead to long-term breathing problems.

Even in young people, COVID-19 can causeTrusted Source strokes, seizures, and Guillain-Barré syndrome — a condition that causes temporary paralysis.

COVID-19 may also increase the risk of developing Parkinson’s disease and Alzheimer’s disease.

Other potential long-term effects of the virus include blood clots, which can lead to heart attacks and strokes, and psychological issues from being on a ventilator that include post-traumatic stress, depression, and anxiety.
Bell’s palsy risks
Some early reports suggested that the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine could increase the chance of getting facial nerve palsy, also known as Bell’s palsy.

But the FDA doesn’t consider these reports to be more than the rate expected in the general population.

In Israel, where all residents are automatically a part of the national digital health registry system, some conclusions about the virus and the vaccines can be reached with early data.

In a recent studyTrusted Source, scientists in Israel looked at whether the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is associated with an increased risk of acute-onset Bell’s palsy.

In this case-control analysis, investigators concluded that there was no association between recent vaccination and risk of facial nerve palsy.
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READ MOREYoung adult reaction
While science has shown these vaccines to be safe with few side effects, the rumors still fly, especially online.

You can read everything from “the vaccine can give you COVID” to “there are microchips in the vaccines” to “there are fetal cells in the vaccines.”

There’s no validity to any of these claims.

Neal Reddy, 19, a sophomore at Princeton University in New Jersey and survivor of Hodgkin’s lymphoma, is an intern at Teen Cancer America, which supports teens and young adults with cancer.

He said that he’s heard a variety of wild, unfounded rumors about the vaccines’ side effects.

“I see a lot of it on social media from people my age, the rumors about this and that,” said Neal, who wants to study medicine.

“There’s this idea among some in my age group that your own research on social media will enlighten you more than a scientific clinical trial,” he told Healthline.

Reddy added that some people in his age group even made a big deal out of the fact that one of the effects of the vaccine is a sore arm.

“Like that is a bad sign,” he said. “When I heard that mRNA vaccines were coming out, I was confident that this would be effective and with limited side effects.”

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/vaccine-side-effects-vs-covid-19-damage-theres-no-comparison
 
Just for the fun of it people who are alive are reporting their deaths on the VAERS system. And people that take what's posted on the VAERS system as data better up their game.
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Yeaaaah,.. It'd be kinda hard for dead person to access the system to report their death though...

(Also, none of my 3 friends who had strokes were put down as vaccine complications. Nor my friend who is being treated for their heart problems. So right there I can tell you any figures being published about adverse effects are incorrect. And that is widely known now by many medical professionals. It will all come out in the wash.)
 
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