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Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

  • yes, gimme

    Votes: 29 31.9%
  • not yet

    Votes: 15 16.5%
  • no way

    Votes: 47 51.6%

  • Total voters
    91
  • Poll closed .

h.h.

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Probably you live under a rock, no doubt about it.Kennedy was already talking about a sectet society before he got shot, but if you love history, perhaps its interesting to dig a little bit further than what the common media tells you.You can stick your head in the sand, but thats up to you.
Parlement should be your friend for controling what the government is doing, but even them are sometimes just ordinary fish wives with secrets.
When a parlements member is invited by the Bilderberg group and won't tell what is spoken during the meeting, i call that secratcy, while it is his task to play open card.

Our country is better than yours.
 

Absolem

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You are not even close. You don't realize it but in one brush stroke you dismiss a persons accomplishments without any merit. A person joins NASA because they have access to the best equipment, a nice budget, and the chance to be around the brightest minds in their industry. These people get hired specifically because of the task they are great at and spent a decade of their life learning their trade. Same with Doctors who get the chance to work at the Mayo Clinic or U of M. Again. The doctors are hired because of their specialty. The amount of time these people spend studying their craft only to find their dream job just to become a yes man sounds pretty weak. How is it any other professions experience is seen as a asset but becomes a liability when you are a Dr or scientist? Does a well versed lawyer lose credit when they finally gain the experience needed to excel?

In regards to San Fran becoming more war friendly it had nothing to do with the CIA and more to do with the first Iraq War and people not wanting to dis them as they are over seas. The idea that in few short years the CIA was able to change the minds of people in San Francisco to pro war is pretty funny.



That's exactly how it works.

Their employers tell them what thinking is acceptable.

The CIA was picking through the tech community in Silicon Valley in the 1990's, to try and prevent any anti-war techies from ending up in top management positions.

In 10 years, they turned San Francisco from an Anti-war community (e.g. the huge anti-war protests in 1991), to a pro-war community (e.g. the anti-war protests in the 00's ... they were small and few).

Greed and the "promise" of stock market riches helped to distract everybody.
 

dramamine

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In regards to San Fran becoming more war friendly it had nothing to do with the CIA and more to do with the first Iraq War and people not wanting to dis them as they are over seas. The idea that in few short years the CIA was able to change the minds of people in San Francisco to pro war is pretty funny.

You don't think the CIA had a big hand in getting us into Iraq? And every other modern war? It's true. Changing the minds of people en masse through propaganda is their stock and trade.
 

'Boogieman'

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You do realize "government" is made up of citizens? They are your neighbors, friends, and everyday people you pass on the street. Do you think there is some secret government recruiting center where they secretly find people who went to school ten plus years to become brainwashed Dr's and Scientists? Kinda sad you view anything to do with government as some nefarious entity that's out there to lie and mislead you. Can't believe what the world's top universities say. Why? They get some government money. Oh No......... tax dollars going to help fund public health. Such a big no no. It's really not "government" you have a problem with. It's anything you see as an "authority" you have issues with. It's why you go out of your to find any crackpot you can that supports you beliefs. Hurry hurry, bring up the VAERS system again.

Who was the president who warned about the Military Industrial Complex? Been at war for over 20 years in the middle east? Weapons of mass destruction? The list of corrupt bullshit goes on, government is not my friend.
 

Gry

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Who was the president who warned about the Military Industrial Complex? Been at war for over 20 years in the middle east? Weapons of mass destruction? The list of corrupt bullshit goes on, government is not my friend.
Dwight Eisenhower made the statement. An interesting back story revolving around the statement was recently released by the Eisenhower presidential library.
 

mexcurandero420

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h.h.

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Who was the president who warned about the Military Industrial Complex? Been at war for over 20 years in the middle east? Weapons of mass destruction? The list of corrupt bullshit goes on, government is not my friend.

You mean the guy who talked bullshit and did nothing about it?
 

Absolem

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In areas of the military I think we can agree that the government could scale back wars and interference in other countries. The military is one area of the government where group thought is sought.


Who was the president who warned about the Military Industrial Complex? Been at war for over 20 years in the middle east? Weapons of mass destruction? The list of corrupt bullshit goes on, government is not my friend.
 

Absolem

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This statement is a prime example of how right wing media has rotted people's brain. They got their minions to believe that the media is where people get their information. I get my medical research from Mayo Clinic, U of M and other prestigious medical schools. "Do your own research"? What a joke. Anybody with half a brain would never attempt to "do their own research" if going into a court room. The idea you can do better research then a trained lawyer is a beautiful con. What this thinking does is fools people into believing they can become an immediate expert in any given field and it dismisses those who have real knowledge in their field. People claiming magnets stick to the arms of the vaccinated is the type of thinking that comes from the "do your own research" crowd. Notice how they don't push that lie anymore?

It happens to be true, if you do your own research instead of believing what your TV tells you or what you were taught in school you would see this.
 

h.h.

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This statement is a prime example of how right wing media has rotted people's brain. They got their minions to believe that the media is where people get their information. I get my medical research from Mayo Clinic, U of M and other prestigious medical schools. "Do your own research"? What a joke. Anybody with half a brain would never attempt to "do their research" if going into a court. room. The idea you can do better research then a trained lawyer is beautiful con. What this thinking does is fools people into believing they can become an immediate expert in any given field and it dismisses those who have real knowledge in their field. People claiming magnets stick to the arms of the vaccinated is the type of thinking that comes from the "do your own research" crowd. Notice how they don't push that lie anymore?

I should have researched my lawyer.

I agree with your point. Pick reliable resources and don’t stick to just the ones who reinforce what your buddy told you over the Internet. Look at both sides, even briefly entertaining the idiots. In most cases, common sense will prevail.
 

Cannavore

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Here in Australia, look up the Fabian Society which all politicians are a member of.

lol damn the throwback fabian boogeyman meme. haven't seen that one in years.

just looked up the Austrailian branch of the Fabian Society.... not every politician is a member and who cares if they are? they sound like a group of milquetoast incremental social democrats attempting to influence neoliberal orthodoxy (doesn't look like it's working well considering AUS is neoliberal just like the US, Canada, etc).
 

Cannavore

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ALL politicians in Australia, it is the Skull And Bones of Australia.

"trust fund children of the capitalist oligarchic elite are actually secret socialists tee hee"


why is it always the same conspiracy? dig all the way to the bottom and you'll uncover that they're always jewish plots lol.
 

Hammerhead

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This statement is a prime example of how right wing media has rotted people's brain. They got their minions to believe that the media is where people get their information. I get my medical research from Mayo Clinic, U of M and other prestigious medical schools. "Do your own research"? What a joke. Anybody with half a brain would never attempt to "do their research" if going into a court. room. The idea you can do better research then a trained lawyer is beautiful con. What this thinking does is fools people into believing they can become an immediate expert in any given field and it dismisses those who have real knowledge in their field. People claiming magnets stick to the arms of the vaccinated is the type of thinking that comes from the "do your own research" crowd. Notice how they don't push that lie anymore?


There is merit in doing research to glean the facts/truth as best one can. You are correct most people telling others to do their research are not even educated enough to understand the research. Most people would put more trust in those that have Ph.D.'s in any field of study than some shmuck that hasn't even graduated HS. This is how a functioning society works.
 

mexcurandero420

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lol damn the throwback fabian boogeyman meme. haven't seen that one in years.

just looked up the Austrailian branch of the Fabian Society.... not every politician is a member and who cares if they are? they sound like a group of milquetoast incremental social democrats attempting to influence neoliberal orthodoxy (doesn't look like it's working well considering AUS is neoliberal just like the US, Canada, etc).

Canada and Oz are still under the crown.
 

Chi13

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ICMag Donor
It happens to be true, if you do your own research instead of believing what your TV tells you or what you were taught in school you would see this.

I doubt there is a single member of the Australian Fabian Society from either the National or Liberal parties, let alone all members of the Australian parliament. But go ahead, link your "research" if you have it. If you make sweeping statements like you have you should back it up.
 

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