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Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

  • yes, gimme

    Votes: 29 31.9%
  • not yet

    Votes: 15 16.5%
  • no way

    Votes: 47 51.6%

  • Total voters
    91
  • Poll closed .

St. Phatty

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I received the 1st of my 2 Moderna vaccines yesterday. No real tragedy in the injection, no scraping of needles from being buried too deeply into the arm, etc., as I have had with some aggressive harpoon operators.

An hour or so later, in the midst of a store run, I had a mild to moderate urge to puke, and considered the store I was in, wearing a P100 mask under a surgical mask, and 6-mil nitrile gloves, and thought, "You know, this is entirely inconvenient in re. to being able to vomit and not have it turn into the mess from Hell." Suppressed the urge successfully.

did you actually throw up ?

I had a very novel flu about 6 months ago. Overpowering feeling of Nausea, the kind that inspires you to gather garbage cans around the bed, where I was lying.

But no vomiting.

I have a feeling that will end up being one of the milder symptoms of Covid19.

For me it was a 4 hour flu kind of thing. But never had anything like that.


PS if you do vomit ... think of your pets ... they might like to eat the vomit. Recycling ! ! ! :)
 

trichrider

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The non-existence of HIV and SARS-CoV-2 doesn’t surprise me. After all, the so-called symptoms of both “conditions” can be explained without reference to a virus

My HIV/AIDS investigation, and the parallels to the COVID hoax

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By Jon Rappoport -- NoMoreFakeNews—— Bio and Archives--March 8, 2021
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In my current series of articles on fake epidemics—-Ebola, Zika, Swine Flu—-I’ve established that all the symptoms of these so-called diseases can be explained without invoking a virus.
This is a key.
It was my method, when I wrote my first book, AIDS INC., in 1988.






(Jon’s mega-collection, The Matrix Revealed)
At that time, I looked into the AIDS “high-risk groups” listed by the CDC—-Africans, Haitians, IV drug users, gay men, hemophiliacs, and blood-transfusion recipients—-and I showed that the immune-system collapse (the hallmark of AIDS) in these groups could be explained without the need to refer to HIV at all.
“AIDS” was not one condition.
It was immune-deficiency caused, in various people, by a variety of factors. The hypnotic medical trick was welding all these sick and dying people together under one umbrella label: “AIDS.”
But the truth was—-depending on which “AIDS group” and which individuals you were looking at—-you had debilitating medical and street drugs destroying immune systems; you had devastating hunger and starvation; lack of basic sanitation; grinding poverty and war; vaccination campaigns; adrenal collapse…
Likewise, today, with a vast relabeling effort, any patient with any sort of lung problem, or flu-like illness, can be diagnosed and repackaged as a case of “COVID-19.” The loose set of so-called COVID symptoms allows for such fraudulent and deceptive diagnosis.
This is the central con.
Back in 1988, after combing through medical journals, I found that the number-one cause of T-cell depletion (immune-system collapse) in the world was malnutrition/hunger/starvation. Yet, in Africa and Haiti, and even in certain Western patients surviving on junk-food diets, T-cell depletion was routinely called HIV/AIDS.





Suddenly, a virus was invoked to substitute for malnutrition.
In fact, in Africa, the earlier label for AIDS was “slim disease.” That fatuous idea was invented via a deeply flawed investigation in Uganda, where the patients were “slim” simply because they were malnourished and starving, and consequently losing weight.
In New York and San Francisco, some gay men were inhaling a brutally dangerous street drug called “poppers.” Severe lung damage was just one of the drug’s many devastating effects. Profound immune-system deficiency was sure to follow.
In AIDS INC., I lay out a whole parade of immune-system destroyers in the high-risk groups; and none of these destroyers has anything to do with a virus.
—-Just as in Wuhan, in 2019, the deadly chronic air pollution hanging over the city and causing pneumonia—-the original hallmark of so-called COVID-19—-had nothing to do with a virus.
So when uninformed people bleat, “People are dying, it must be the virus,” whether they’re talking about AIDS or COVID, they’re completely off the rails and on the wrong track.
Here is another parallel between AIDS and COVID: the test for the virus.
I’ve spent many articles detailing how the PCR test for SARS-CoV-2 spits out false-positive results like water from a fire hose. A doctor will tell a patient he’s infected simply because the sensitivity of the test is so jacked-up it’ll register positive on a speck of dust on the moon. This is artificial case-number building at its finest.
Well, back in 1988, there was a similar situation. The HIV antibody test was turning out a Niagara of false-positive results. I devoted a chapter in my book to the results of my extensive medical-journal search.
The evidence was undeniable. Both basic types of HIV antibody tests—-the Elisa and the Western Blot—-were, admittedly, deeply flawed. There was no gold standard for testing.


Cross-reactions were abundant: the test for HIV would come up positive for a whole host of reasons that had nothing to do with HIV, or any other virus. One reason? A person had received the hepatitis B vaccination. Well, in the 1980s, a campaign was launched to recruit gay men into a large study of the new vaccine.
A third parallel between AIDS and COVID: expanding the definition of the “disease” in order to rope in as many patients, and build up as many case numbers, as possible.
The 1987 CDC definition of AIDS, which I printed in my book in full, took up 15 pages. With a bit of rigmarole, a doctor could diagnose AIDS in a person who had almost any kind of bacterial infection.
The CDC definition of COVID-19 allows a diagnosis when the patient has nothing more than a cough, or chills and fever, accompanied by a positive PCR test.
There are other parallels between AIDS and COVID I could list, but you get the picture. In both instances, the hoax is rampant.
A few years after I published AIDS INC., I became aware of a new argument: the very existence of HIV was in doubt. Consulting the independent literature on the subject, I became convinced no one had proved HIV existed. In these pages, I’ve published, several times, an illuminating interview journalist Christine Johnson conducted with Australian biophysicist, Eleni Papadopulos, about HIV isolation. Papadopulos makes a compelling case that, according to rigorous rules laid down by mainstream researchers, HIV hasn’t been isolated.
As my readers know, for the past year I’ve been offering compelling evidence that SARS-COV-2 has never been proven to exist. Researchers twist and reverse the meaning of the word “isolation,” in order to “demonstrate” the virus is real.
The non-existence of HIV and SARS-CoV-2 doesn’t surprise me. After all, the so-called symptoms of both “conditions” can be explained without reference to a virus.
In both cases, the reality, which lights up like a giant neon sign in the darkness, is FRAUD.
 

Absolem

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The non-existence of HIV and SARS-CoV-2 doesn’t surprise me. After all, the so-called symptoms of both “conditions” can be explained without reference to a virus

My HIV/AIDS investigation, and the parallels to the COVID hoax
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By Jon Rappoport -- NoMoreFakeNews—— Bio and Archives--March 8, 2021
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LMAO. I present you two of the most respected universities in the world in the Mayo Clinic and Harvard and you cite Jon Rappoport who is nothing more then an "investigative journalist". He is NOT a MD, Immunologist, biologist, or anything to do in the medical field.

So far your sources have been
Infowars.... Joe Hoft.
Judy Mikovits... Fired from her job for fraud.
The Gateway Pundit.
And now Jon Rappoport investigative journalist.


More Merlin over Galileo. Until you can cite me peer reviewed studies to back up your claim not much is gained from your posts. This is like arguing for the federal legalization of cannabis and citing "High Times" or "Maximum Yield" as your sources.


I'll give you a hint. Google,.......... "Google Scholar". Google Scholar has all the peer reviewed studies from around the world. It's where people in med school and law school students get their research for their papers.

Until then continue to enjoy your Merlin education. I'll stick with the Galileo's of the world.
 

chilliwilli

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2. Shot of biontech pfizer was bad. After about 13h i developed some chills and my muscel hurt. The chills were gone some hour later but muscel in arm and shoulder still hurt.
 

gaiusmarius

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More Merlin over Galileo. Until you can cite me peer reviewed studies to back up your claim not much is gained from your posts. This is like arguing for the federal legalization of cannabis and citing "High Times" or "Maximum Yield" as your sources.

roflmao, bad example as high times etc turned out to be right about cannabis while the feds were lieing for 60 years about cannabis.
 

trichrider

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LMAO. I present you two of the most respected universities in the world in the Mayo Clinic and Harvard and you cite Jon Rappoport who is nothing more then an "investigative journalist". He is NOT a MD, Immunologist, biologist, or anything to do in the medical field.

So far your sources have been
Infowars.... Joe Hoft.
Judy Mikovits... Fired from her job for fraud.
The Gateway Pundit.
And now Jon Rappoport investigative journalist.


More Merlin over Galileo. Until you can cite me peer reviewed studies to back up your claim not much is gained from your posts. This is like arguing for the federal legalization of cannabis and citing "High Times" or "Maximum Yield" as your sources.


I'll give you a hint. Google,.......... "Google Scholar". Google Scholar has all the peer reviewed studies from around the world. It's where people in med school and law school students get their research for their papers.

Until then continue to enjoy your Merlin education. I'll stick with the Galileo's of the world.
you presented nothing but derisive opinion.
so link those studies/papers that contradict those journalists.
blue anons always proffer the party line.
cancel culture always trying to silence the inconvenient exposure of the atrocious lies.
you go ahead and get the pokey-pokey if you want, others have the right and the responsibility to protect themselves from unwanted and unproven invasive procedures.

US Dr. Ralph Baric Was Reviewing Moderna and Dr. Fauci’s Coronavirus Vaccine in December 2019! — What’s Going On?


By Joe Hoft
Published February 27, 2021 at 3:00pm

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When did Doctors Fauci and Baric find out about the China coronavirus leak in Wuhan and how did they know it?

Why was the US investigating the coronavirus vaccine before the Western world even knew about it?

On April 9, 2020, we were the first media outlet to report on major events leading up to the China coronavirus leak that we suspected came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology. We were able to determine Chinese Doctor Shi Zhengli was part of a team that was working on a coronavirus project jointly with US doctors in 2014 before it was shut down by the DHS for being too risky.
After the US research project was shut down, Dr. Shi continued her coronavirus research in Wuhan, China.

We reported that Doctor Shi Zhengli from China was part of a team, including Doctor Ralph S. Baric from North Carolina, that published an article in a 2015 edition of Nature Medicine.
In the article, they discussed bat coronaviruses that showed potential for human emergence. The article was published in 2015.
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This report was published shortly after their project was defunded by the US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS).

The HHS in 2014 sent a letter to the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill where they announced they were going to defund the program.

Dr. Ralph S. Baric was identified in the letter.

After the work stopped in the US, the Chinese moved forward with the project and ran research and development in Wuhan at the Wuhan Virology Center. From Shi Zhengli’s papers and resume, it is clear that they successfully isolated the virus in the lab and were actively experimenting with species <-> species transmission.

Today, Dr. Lawrence Sellin, who contributed much to this effort to uncover the truth about COVID, reported that a December 12, 2019 agreement was signed by Dr. Ralph Baric that he would receive the “mRNA coronavirus vaccine candidates developed and jointly-owned by NIAID and Moderna”:

The Moderna mRNA vaccine is now being given to people around the world. Pfizer also has an mRNA vaccine. Ralph Baric is a long-time coronavirus researcher with close ties with the batwoman and the Wuhan Institute of Virology as noted above in our post from April 2020. December 12, 2019, is very early in the COVID-19 outbreak before it was reported in the West. Baric would be a logical person to test the efficacy of an mRNA vaccine.

What this tells us is that Doctors Baric and Fauci may have been aware of what was happening in China and Fauci and Moderna were likely working on coronavirus vaccines before COVID-19 was announced in the West.

The Moderna vaccine was ready for human testing very quickly.

It seems to be hardly a coincidence that Baric, who does not appear anywhere else in the confidential agreements should appear at such a consequential moment.
We can’t say this is a smoking gun of any type, but it is something not widely known and it certainly generates additional questions.

the Pundit has been 100% right despite your protestations....
 

Absolem

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roflmao, bad example as high times etc turned out to be right about cannabis while the feds were lieing for 60 years about cannabis.

Not sure how it came across I believed what the government said about cannabis..... or was it just assumed because I believe the medical studies that come out of Mayo Clinic and Harvard?

If you use "Google Scholar" and type "cannabis studies" over 45 years of studies will pop up. This is what was used to get medical cannabis allowed in California. While High Times may have reported some of those studies the cannabis medical community didn't use a secondary source like High Times to persuade the public. They used the studies themselves. IMO High Times perpetuated the caricatures of cannabis users. The medical community distanced it's self from publications like that.

Trichrider.

Just a few months ago you posted tons of stuff from The Gateway Pundit in regards to election fraud. None of it panned out to be true. The courts kicked all the claims to the curb. Now here you are with the same site that was wrong on election fraud claiming everything they feed you on covid to be true. I've had my say and people know what side we stand on.
 

tobedetermined

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At the current moment, I am both too young (pfizer etc restricted to >80) AND too old to get a vaccine (the Astra is restricted to <65). Fuck. Not happy.
 

mexcurandero420

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Both organisations are funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates foundation, so when they go the otherway then it is bye bye to their funds.

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in the earlier days was this also recommend by physicians.
 

Smokerman

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At the current moment, I am both too young (pfizer etc restricted to >80) AND too old to get a vaccine (the Astra is restricted to <65). Fuck. Not happy.
From my understanding it’s just Canada that says the Astra Zeneca shouldn’t be given to people over 65.
 

mexcurandero420

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Denmark and Iceland are temporarily halting vaccinations with AstraZeneca, Lareb (NL) sees no reason to stop

COPENHAGEN - Denmark has temporarily stopped vaccinating people with AstraZeneca's corona vaccine. According to the authorities, this has to do with possible side effects.




The Danes are sounding the alarm after 'several serious cases of blood clots' among vaccinees, media in the country report. However, it is not clear whether there is a direct link between the vaccine and the complaints. To find out, the next 14 days will not be punctured with Astrazeneca. “We are in the middle of the largest and most important vaccination rollout in Danish history. And now we need all the vaccines we can get. Hence, it's not an easy decision to pause one of the vaccines, says health director Søren Brostrøm.
 

tobedetermined

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From my understanding it’s just Canada that says the Astra Zeneca not to use it in people over 65.

That's what I've read as well. Ontario received 174K doses and they have opened up registration sites for 60 - 64 year olds only. The vaccine fuckup in Canada just reminds us - once again - that we really are only a little insignificant pissant country when all is said and done.
 

gaiusmarius

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Saagar Enjeti REVEALS The Full CNN, MSNBC Coverup For Cuomo Nursing Home Scandal




oh how the mighty have fallen eh? what is it now, 6 woman saying he abused his power to fondle them inappropriately?
they actually gave this guy an acting award for his daily made for tv press events! idiocracy is just around the corner.
 

mexcurandero420

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Utah mother dies four days after taking second COVID-19 vaccine dose

A 39-year-old Utah mom died just four days after receiving her second dose of the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine, according to a Wednesday report that investigated vaccine side effects.

Kassidi Kurill, who lived in Ogden, took the second dose on Monday, Feb. 1. By Friday evening that week, she was dead, according to 2News, which was the first to report on Kurill’s case.

"She was seemingly healthy as a horse," Kurill’s father, Alfred Hawley, told Fox News. "She had no known underlying conditions."

On Tuesday, Kurill’s condition worsened. Her father said she complained that she was drinking fluids but not urinating and had a headache and nausea. By Wednesday, she felt a little better. But on Thursday, her heart began racing and Hawley took her to the hospital.

"When I took her to the emergency room, she had her makeup on and false eyelashes on. I mean she wasn’t going to go not put together," Hawley said.

Kurill began throwing up. The doctors took blood tests, and she became less coherent, Hawley said. Thursday evening, she was transported to Trauma Center in Murray for a liver transplant.

Doctors tried repeatedly to stabilize her for a liver transplant but her condition deteriorated, and by Friday morning, she couldn’t talk.

"They were trying to get her to a point where she was stable enough for a liver transplant. And they just could not get her stable," Hawley said. "She got worse and worse throughout the day. And at nine o’clock, she passed."

Hawley told Fox News an autopsy report is pending. The family, meanwhile, has set up a GoFundMe page for a "Kassidi Kurill and Emilia Memorial Fund," in honor of Kurill and her 9-year-old daughter.

While side effects from the vaccine are common, resulting deaths are incredibly rare. According to the Center for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), some 92 million COVID-19 vaccine doses were administered in the U.S. between December 14, 2020 and March 8, 2021. Of those 92 million, VAERS received 1,637 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine.

"To date, VAERS has not detected patterns in cause of death that would indicate a safety problem with COVID-19 vaccines," the CDC says on its website.

Hawley, a civil servant and member of the National Guard, told Fox News he recognizes that his daughter’s tragic death was one in a million.

"It appears she was the odd one out that had the terrible reaction," he said.

Despite his daughter’s loss, Hawley, who is 69 years old and diabetic, said he has taken the vaccine himself because of the threat COVID-19 poses to his demographic.
 

trichrider

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Nine Reasons Why I Will Not Be Getting The COVID Vaccine

There is a religious-like fanaticism with the Covid vaccines. If we want to be precise, it isn’t even a vaccine. Vaccines confer immunity; this injection lessens symptoms and isn’t even known to prevent spread yet, let alone prevent infection in the host. It’s like a DayQuil for Covid. Whatever the nomenclature, though, there is a dangerous doctrinal approach to mindlessly injecting oneself with a foreign substance.

Some people have good reasons for getting poked. We know with near-absolute certainty that Covid targets those of advanced age and existing comorbidities, especially obesity. One of the most comprehensive studies was recently published on the relationship between obesity and Covid mortality. This study found that the estimated 2.5 million worldwide Covid deaths, 2.2 occurred in countries where the adult obesity rate exceeds 50%. That is a remarkable correlation. And amazingly, this figure controlled for population density and income levels. Didn’t we all expect Covid to sweep through poor shantytowns, barrios, favelas, and Indian slums, but that never occurred? Despite the lack of medical infrastructure, sanitation, and other factors that normally resign these nations to epidemics of other kinds, Covid stayed away. Why? In univariable terms, those countries all tally low obesity rates. The same goes for many Asian nations that have high median ages (remember, age is a huge factor) but low obesity rates.

Now, because everyone’s data is slightly different, I took the time to explore this relationship. The results are a cheap buildout in Excel to show the twenty-five most populous countries and comparing their deaths per million rate with their adult obesity rate. The correlation amounts to .724, which supports the idea that obesity and obesity-related factors play a significant role in the pandemic’s lethalness. I have cited where each of these statistics came from for your own verification.
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Hopefully, the long-term impact of the pandemic will be a more honest conversation about the role of diet and healthy lifestyles. Even though this is a respiratory illness, the data bears out that preexisting respiratory issues play less of a role in determining lethality than do other health metrics. The real pandemic, it should be noted, is diet, which kills hundreds of thousands of more people annually, and as nations seek to expand government’s role in healthcare, I personally do not want to pay for someone else’s hospital bill because they ate fast food and made derelict and deadly dietary decisions.

At any rate, yes, there is a time and place for the Covid vaccine. If nothing else, it might impart a certain peace of mind for many. Personally, I will not be getting it. Here’s why.

#1: I Had Covid And I Was Fine

To be clear, my wife and baby tested positive a few months back. I did not get tested because…why? Positive or negative, the system would have me quarantine anyways and my course of treatment would be identical. Rest and hydrate if symptomatic, stay home regardless. There is a small part of me that didn’t care to boost the numbers anymore than they were artificially inflated anyways, and a small, small part of me is paranoid enough to want to stay off the medical grid. Call me a tin-foil hat guy, but at this point it seems like a crazier proposition to believe in the government than to not believe in it. Regardless, I got sick and then I got better. Life goes on.

#2: I Prefer Natural Exposure to Non-Lethal Disease

This is my favorite argument, because everyone that hears I won’t be getting the vaccine assumes I am an alt-right (whatever that means) anti-vaxxer. Nope. My entire family, children included, is entirely inoculated against other harmful diseases. Where I draw the line is shots for chicken pox, shingles, flu, HPV, and now Covid. Statistically speaking, none of these viruses are going to be my undoing, and the risk of injecting unknown substances into my body to impart potentially helpful immunization doesn’t stack up against my body’s God-given and nature-made defense mechanisms. Believe it or not, mankind has evolved to live with all sorts of viruses, bacteria, and pathogens.

#3: The mRNA Vaccine Is New and Only Has EUA Status

I don’t even know why this is controversial. Is the mRNA thing okay? Probably. But, science used to be rooted in a healthy dose of skepticism; now it’s rooted in a healthy dose of manufactured protein spikers. Whatever. If our government agencies can’t even greenlight these things, then they don’t know enough about them. We have been here before: The first polio vaccine in the 1950s killed more kids than natural polio, the 1976 swine flu vaccines caused more damage to vaccine recipients than the flu itself, and the HPV vaccine that was introduced in 2006 is speculated to be a cause for decreased fertility. Yep, I will hold off.

#4: The Numbers Continue To Go Down

The numbers are going down for a lot of reasons, only one of which is related to vaccine distribution. More than anything, the numbers are on the decline because the WHO conveniently pointed out that the amplification cycle on the PCR tests was too high. And, they did so on January 20th of this year, magically coinciding with Biden’s inauguration and after ten months of fraudulently spiked cases. I don’t like to believe there are elite puppet masters pulling the strings on society, but come on. Numbers are also falling because people don’t bother with getting tested as much, more immunity is achieved through natural exposure, and yes, then the millions of pokes happening each day. I was never worried about Covid before this was all achieved, and I am certainly not worried about it now. To those that say I am selfish and not performing social good, you are idiots. And, see below.

#5: What Do You Care If I Don’t Vaccinate?

If vaccines are the cure to this pandemic, and you got yours, what do you care what I do? This mindset is entirely due to the insane levels of fear that has been produced by our media and political establishments. If we cared about public safety, we would advocate for lower speed limits, firearm training and availability to all law-abiding citizens, more police (and one in every school), stricter punishments for crimes, and we certainly would have responded to the Black Lives Matter violence than plagued our nation last year. Moreover, personal health would focus on healthy diets instead of worrying about fat shaming. Public duty to vaccinate? Shove off.

#6: Kamala Harris Said She Wouldn’t

Just kidding, I don’t care about anything Harris says. But let’s not forget that in the not-so-distant past, our vaunted Vice President claimed on national television she had hesitancy to get the vaccine. Did anyone call her out? Of course they didn’t. For starters, leftist doctrine doesn’t allow you to criticize anyone until you’re told to. Secondly, she’s a black woman. That’s a lot of oppression on the intersectional ladder, therefore the attempt to criticize usually means you’re a white supremacist and/or mansplaining to her. Good luck with that.

#7: I Don’t Trust The Motivations of Big Pharma

Again, this seems obvious. I hate that I even have to spell it out. Does anyone really think that Big Pharma is acting altruistically here? For the record, I love capitalism and I love Big Pharma. Thank goodness for profit motives that make life better and thank goodness for world-class medical treatments in the United States. Everyone throws shade on our healthcare system; that is, until they need treatment. Then they all come here or train here. That being said, it is not difficult to see how money influenced America’s public healthcare response. Effectively, cheap generics like hydroxychloroquine (along with zinc and azithromycin) and ivermectin were pooh-poohed for almost a year so that these worthless (see #8) vaccines could be rolled out.

#8: My Public Life Wouldn’t Change At All

The CDC and NIH have consistently been saying that all vaccinated people need to continue wearing masks, socially distancing, limiting travel, and otherwise acting as if they never had the vaccine. Moreover, it isn’t even a vaccine in the traditional sense. People who have full dosage can still get Covid and still spread Covid. So, help me understand this: Whether or not you get the vaccine, there is still a risk of getting and transmitting Covid, masks are still required, social distancing is still required, and states remain shut down, then what is the point? Plus, there are the unknowns of what an mRNA vaccine (or any newer vaccine, for that matter) is and does. So there’s that.

#9: So Many Other Things Can Kill Us

Just as there is a reason-suspending belief in vaccines (by the same crowd that touts the science of abortion not being murder and toddlers claiming to be in the wrong body, no less), there is reason suspension in the singular focus on Covid’s alleged deadliness. People smoke, drink, drive fast, eat fatty and sugary foods, consume too much television and social media, and engage in a host of other unhealthy behaviors without the slightest regard for immediate or long-term impacts. Seriously, what has happened to common sense? We panic over this and condone everything else? Stop, just stop.
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Pfizer Demands Nations Put Up Collateral to Cover Vaccine Injury Lawsuits

Argentina and Brazil have rejected Pfizer’s demands they put up sovereign assets, including bank reserves, military bases and embassy buildings, as collateral for anticipated lawsuits over COVID vaccine injuries.
by: Dr. Joseph Mercola

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Story at-a-glance:
  • Pfizer is demanding countries put up sovereign assets, including bank reserves, military bases and embassy buildings, as collateral for expected vaccine injury lawsuits resulting from its COVID-19 inoculation.
  • Argentina and Brazil have rejected Pfizer’s demands. According to legal experts, Pfizer is abusing its power.
  • In the U.S., vaccine makers already enjoy full indemnity against injuries occurring from the COVID-19 vaccine under the PREP Act. If you’re injured, you’d have to file a compensation claim with the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program (CICP), which is funded by U.S. taxpayers.
  • A significant problem with the CICP is that it’s administered within the Department of Health and Human Services, which is also sponsoring the COVID-19 vaccination program. This conflict of interest makes the CICP less likely to admit fault with the vaccine.
  • The maximum CICP payout you can receive — even in cases of permanent disability or death — is $250,000 per person, and you first have to exhaust your private insurance policy before the CICP kicks in.
As reported by New Delhi-based World Is One News (WION), Pfizer is demanding countries put up sovereign assets as collateral for expected vaccine injury lawsuits resulting from its COVID-19 inoculation. In other words, it wants governments to guarantee the company will be compensated for any expenses resulting from injury lawsuits against it.

WION reports that Argentina and Brazil have rejected Pfizer’s demands. Initially, the company demanded indemnification legislation to be enacted, such as that which it enjoys in the U.S. Argentina proposed legislation that would restrict Pfizer’s financial responsibility for injuries to those resulting from negligence or malice.
Pfizer rejected the proposal. It also rejected a rewritten proposal that included a clearer definition of negligence. Pfizer then demanded the Argentinian government put up sovereign assets — including its bank reserves, military bases and embassy buildings — as collateral. Argentina refused. A similar situation occurred in Brazil. Pfizer demanded Brazil:
  1. “Waive sovereignty of its assets abroad in favor of Pfizer.”
  2. Not apply its domestic laws to the company.
  3. Not penalize Pfizer for vaccine delivery delays.
  4. Exempt Pfizer from all civil liability for side effects.
Brazil rejected Pfizer’s demands, calling them “abusive.” As noted by WION, Pfizer developed its vaccine with the help of government funding, and now it — a private company — is demanding governments hand over sovereign assets to ensure the company won’t lose a dime if its product injures people, even if those injuries are the result of negligent company practices, fraud or malice.
Aside from Argentina and Brazil, nine other South American countries have reportedly negotiated deals with Pfizer. It’s unclear whether they actually ended up giving up national assets in return.

Vaccine maker accused of abusing its power
According to STAT News, “Legal experts have raised concerns that Pfizer’s demands amount to an abuse of power.” Lawrence Gostin, law professor at Georgetown University and director of the World Health Organization’s Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law told STAT:

“Pharmaceutical companies shouldn’t be using their power to limit lifesaving vaccines in low- and middle-income countries. [This] seems to be exactly what they’re doing … Some liability protection is warranted, but certainly not for fraud, gross negligence, mismanagement, failure to follow good manufacturing practices. Companies have no right to ask for indemnity for these things.”

Mark Eccleston-Turner, a lecturer in global health law at Keele University in England, added:
“[Pfizer] is trying to eke out as much profit and minimize its risk at every juncture with this vaccine development then this vaccine rollout. Now, the vaccine development has been heavily subsidized already. So there’s very minimal risk for the manufacturer involved there.”

Don’t expect compensation if injured by COVID-19 vaccine
In the U.S., vaccine makers already enjoy full indemnity against injuries occurring from this or any other pandemic vaccine under the PREP Act. If you’re injured, you’d have to file a compensation claim with the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program (CICP), which is funded by U.S. taxpayers via Congressional appropriation to the Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS).

While similar to the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (NVICP), which applies to nonpandemic vaccines, the CICP is even less generous when it comes to compensation. For example, while the NVICP pays some of the costs associated with any given claim, the CICP does not. This means you’ll also be responsible for attorney fees and expert witness fees.
A significant problem with the CICP is that it’s administered within the DHHS, which is also sponsoring the COVID-19 vaccination program. This conflict of interest makes the CICP less than likely to find fault with the vaccine.
Your only route of appeal is within the DHHS, where your case would simply be reviewed by another employee. The DHHS is also responsible for making the payment, so the DHHS effectively acts as judge, jury and defendant. As reported by Dr. Meryl Nass, the maximum payout you can receive — even in cases of permanent disability or death — is $250,000 per person; however, you’d have to exhaust your private insurance policy before the CICP gives you a dime.
CICP will only pay the difference between what your insurance covers and the total payout amount established for your case. For permanent disability, even $250,000 won’t go far. The CICP also has a one year statute of limitations, so you have to act quickly.
This too is a significant problem, as no one really knows what injuries might arise from the COVID-19 vaccine, or when, and this makes tying the injury to the vaccination a difficult prospect. Employers that mandate the COVID-19 vaccine will also be indemnified from liability for side effects. Instead, claims will be routed through worker’s compensation programs.
If the COVID-19 vaccines are as safe as the manufacturers claim, why do they insist on so much indemnification? Do they suspect or know something they’re refusing to admit publicly?

Side effects are inevitable
Of course, those of us who have been looking at the science behind the mRNA technology used to create these novel “vaccines” have long since realized there are tremendous risks involved. For starters, mRNA vaccines are most accurately referred to as gene therapies, as this is what they are.
They effectively turn your cells into bioreactors that churn out viral proteins to incite an immune response, and there’s no off-switch. Based on historical and preliminary evidence, significant short- and long-term side effects are, quite frankly, inevitable.
For starters, your body sees the synthetic mRNA as “non-self,” which can cause autoantibodies to attack your own tissues. Judy Mikovits, Ph.D., explained this in her interview, featured in “How COVID-19 ‘Vaccines’ May Destroy the Lives of Millions.”
Free mRNA also drive inflammatory diseases, which is why making synthetic mRNA thermostable — i.e., slowing the breakdown of the RNA by encasing it in lipid nanoparticles — is likely to be problematic. The nanoparticles themselves also pose a risk. COVID-19 vaccines use PEGylated lipid nanoparticles, which is known to cause allergic reactions and anaphylaxis.
What’s more, previous attempts to develop an mRNA-based drug using lipid nanoparticles failed and had to be abandoned because when the dose was too low, the drug had no effect, and when dosed too high, the drug became too toxic. An obvious question is: What has changed that now makes this technology safe enough for mass use?
As detailed in my interview with Mikovits, the synthetic RNA influences the gene syncytin, which can result in:
  • Brain inflammation.
  • Dysregulated communication between the microglia in your brain, which are critical for clearing toxins and pathogens.
  • Dysregulated immune system.
  • Dysregulated endocannabinoid system (which calms inflammation).
Pathogenic priming and antibody-dependent enhancement
Another significant problem is that we don’t know whether antibody production is protective or pathogenic in coronavirus infections. If pathogenic, vaccinated individuals may be at increased risk of severe illness if they’re exposed to SARS-CoV-2 in the future. As reported in a December 11, 2020, Vaccine: X paper:
“The first SARS-CoV-2 vaccine(s) will likely be licensed based on neutralizing antibodies in Phase 2 trials, but there are significant concerns about using antibody response in coronavirus infections as a sole metric of protective immunity.
“Antibody response is often a poor marker of prior coronavirus infection, particularly in mild infections, and is shorter-lived than virus-reactive T-cells … Strong antibody response correlates with more severe clinical disease while T-cell response is correlated with less severe disease; and antibody-dependent enhancement of pathology and clinical severity has been described.
“Indeed, it is unclear whether antibody production is protective or pathogenic in coronavirus infections. Early data with SARS-CoV-2 support these findings. Data from coronavirus infections in animals and humans emphasize the generation of a high-quality T cell response in protective immunity.”

A number of reports in the medical literature have indeed highlighted the risk of pathogenic priming and antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE). As explained in “Out of the Frying Pan and Into the Fire? Due Diligence Warranted for ADE in COVID-19”:
“ADE is an immunological phenomenon whereby a previous immune response to a virus can render an individual more susceptible to a subsequent analogous infection.
“Rather than viral recognition and clearance, the prior development of virus-specific antibodies at a non-neutralizing level can facilitate viral uptake, enhancing replication; a possible immune evasion strategy avoiding intracellular innate immune sensors, or pattern recognition receptors …
“ADE of SARS-CoV has also been described through a novel FcγRII-dependent and ACE2-independent cell entry mechanism. The authors state that this warrants concern in the safety evaluation of any candidate human vaccines against SARS-CoV.”
Similarly, “Pathogenic Priming Likely Contributes to Serious and Critical Illness and Mortality in COVID-19 Via Autoimmunity,” published in the Journal of Translational Autoimmunity, warns that:
“Failure of SARS and MERS vaccines in animal trials involved pathogenesis consistent with an immunological priming that could involve autoimmunity in lung tissues due to previous exposure to the SARS and MERS spike protein. Exposure pathogenesis to SARS-CoV-2 in COVID-19 likely will lead to similar outcomes.”

So, to be clear, what all of this means is that if you get vaccinated, you may actually be at increased risk for serious illness if/when you’re exposed to any number of mutated SARS-CoV-2 strains in the future.
This is why the recommendation to vaccinate individuals who have previously been infected with SARS-CoV-2, or who have an active SARS-CoV-2 infection, may actually be quite dangerous. Dr. Hooman Noorchashm recently sent a public letter to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration Commissioner detailing these risks.

How mRNA injections may trigger prion disease
What’s more, in a paper titled, “COVID-19 RNA Based Vaccines and the Risk of Prion Disease,” published in Microbiology & Infectious Diseases, Dr. Bart Classen warns there are also troubling evidences suggesting some of the mRNA shots may cause prion diseases such as Alzheimer’s and ALS. He writes:

“In the current paper, the concern is raised that the RNA based COVID vaccines have the potential to cause more disease than the epidemic of COVID-19. This paper focuses on a novel potential adverse event mechanism causing prion disease which could be even more common and debilitating than the viral infection the vaccine is designed to prevent …

“Analysis of the Pfizer vaccine against COVID-19 identified two potential risk factors for inducing prion disease in humans. The RNA sequence in the vaccine contains sequences believed to induce TDP-43 and FUS to aggregate in their prion based conformation leading to the development of common neurodegenerative diseases.
“In particular it has been shown that RNA sequences GGUA, UG rich sequences, UG tandem repeats, and G Quadruplex sequences, have increased affinity to bind TDP-43 and or FUS and may cause TDP-43 or FUS to take their pathologic configurations in the cytoplasm.
“In the current analysis a total of sixteen UG tandem repeats were identified and additional UG rich sequences were identified. Two GGΨA sequences were found. G Quadruplex sequences are possibly present but sophisticated computer programs are needed to verify these.
“The spike protein encoded by the vaccine binds angiotensin converting enzyme 2 (ACE2), an enzyme which contains zinc molecules. The binding of spike protein to ACE2 has the potential to release the zinc molecule, an ion that causes TDP-43 to assume its pathologic prion transformation.”

mRNA technology has potential to cause microvascular injury
Additionally, Dr. J. Patrick Whelan, a pediatric rheumatologist specializing in multisystem inflammatory syndrome, submitted a public comment to the FDA back in December 2020, in which he expressed concern that mRNA vaccines have “the potential to cause microvascular injury to the brain, heart, liver and kidneys in ways that were not assessed in safety trials.”
He cited research showing that “the spike protein in brain endothelial cells is associated with formation of microthrombi (clots),” and that since no viral RNA has been found in brain endothelium, “viral proteins appear to cause tissue damage without actively replicating virus.”
“Is it possible the spike protein itself causes the tissue damage associated with Covid-19?” he asks. “In 13/13 brains from patients with fatal COVID-19, pseudovirions (spike, envelope, and membrane proteins) without viral RNA are present in the endothelia of cerebral microvessels …
“It appears that the viral spike protein that is the target of the major SARS-CoV-2 vaccines is also one of the key agents causing the damage to distant organs that may include the brain, heart, lung, and kidney.
“Before any of these vaccines are approved for widespread use in humans, it is important to assess in vaccinated subjects the effects of vaccination on the heart … Vaccinated patients could also be tested for distant tissue damage in deltoid area skin biopsies …”

Reports of side effects are rapidly mounting
Around the world, reports are now pouring in of people dying shortly after receiving the COVID-19 vaccine. In many cases, they die suddenly within hours of getting the shot. In others, death occurs within the span of a couple of weeks.
In the wake of 29 senior citizen deaths, Norway is reportedly considering excluding the very old and terminally ill from getting the AstraZeneca vaccine. According to the Norwegian Medicines Agency:
“Most people have experienced the expected side effects of the vaccine, such as nausea and vomiting, fever, local reactions at the injection site, and worsening of their underlying condition.”
The Norwegian Institute of Public Health further noted that “for those with the most severe frailty, even relatively mild vaccine side effects can have serious consequences,” and that “For those who have a very short remaining life span anyway, the benefit of the vaccine may be marginal or irrelevant.”
In Sweden, hospitals in Sörmland and Gävleborg suspended the AstraZeneca vaccine in mid-February 2021 after a full quarter of the vaccinated hospital staff reported side effects. To prevent staff shortages and conduct an investigation, the vaccination push was temporarily paused. Examples of side effects reported after vaccination with Pfizer’s, Moderna’s and AstraZeneca’s vaccines from around the world include:
Persistent malaiseBell’s Palsy
Extreme exhaustionSwollen, painful lymph nodes
Severe allergic, including anaphylactic reactionsThrombocytopenia (a rare, often lethal blood disorder)
Multisystem inflammatory syndromeMiscarriages
Chronic seizures and convulsionsSevere headache/migraine that does not respond to medication
ParalysisSleep disturbances
Psychological effects such as mood changes, anxiety, depression, brain fog, confusion, dissociation and temporary inability to form wordsCardiac problems, including myocardial and tachycardia disorders
Blindness, impaired vision and eye disordersStroke
In the U.K., there were 49,472 reported side effects to the Pfizer vaccine and 21,032 reactions to the AstraZeneca vaccine as of January 24, 2021. As reported by Principia Scientific International, “For both vaccines this equates to 1 in every 333 people suffering an adverse reaction. This rate could actually be higher as some cases may have not been reported …”

Greatest risk of all: sudden death
Perhaps most concerning of all are rapidly mounting reports of sudden death, mostly in the elderly but also in much younger, healthy individuals. In the U.S., COVID-19 vaccines accounted for 70% of vaccine-related deaths between January 2020 and January 2021.
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As of Feb. 12, 2021, the number of side effects reported to VAERS totaled 15,923, including 929 deaths. Of the 799 deaths reported within the U.S., one-third occurred within 48 hours of vaccination and 21% of them were cardiac-related.
Pfizer’s vaccine was the most dangerous in terms of death, being responsible for 58% of deaths while Moderna’s vaccine accounted for 41% of deaths. Pfizer’s vaccine was also responsible for 75% of Bell’s Palsy cases, compared to Moderna’s at 25%.
Curiously, based on the data submitted to the FDA, Moderna’s vaccine has a death rate 5.41 times higher than Pfizer’s, yet both are dramatically lower than the national average. As noted by The Defender, the dramatic discrepancy in death rates “deserves notice and requires explanation,” adding:

“If Moderna’s on-vaccine death rate is so far below the national death rate and also simultaneously more than five times greater than Pfizer’s on-vaccine death rate, then Pfizer’s study sample appears even less representative of the entire population …
“Moderna’s screening process and exclusion criteria in the trial led to evidence that the general population is dying at a rate 6.3 times greater than the death rate in the Moderna trial — which means the Moderna study, including its estimated efficacy rate and the vaccine’s alleged safety profile — cannot possibly be relevant to most of the U.S. population.
“The super-healthy cohorts studied by Moderna are in no way representative of the U.S. population. Most deaths from COVID-19 involve pre-existing health conditions of the types excluded from both Pfizer and Moderna trials …
“Those enrolling in the post-market surveillance studies deserve to know the abject absence of any relevant information on efficacy and risk for them. In their zeal to help humanity, or to help themselves, these people may very well be walking into a situation that will cause autoimmunity due to pathogenic priming, potentially leading to disease enhancement should they become infected following vaccination.”

Do a risk-benefit analysis before making up your mind
To avoid becoming a sad statistic, I urge you to review the science very carefully before making up your mind about this experimental gene therapy. Also remember that the lethality of COVID-19 is actually surprisingly low. It’s lower than the flu for those under the age of 60.
If you’re under the age of 40, your risk of dying from COVID-19 is just 0.01%, meaning you have a 99.99% chance of surviving the infection. And you could improve that to 99.999% if you’re metabolically flexible, insulin sensitive, and vitamin D replete.
So, really, what are we protecting against with a COVID-19 vaccine? These mRNA vaccines aren’t even designed to prevent infection, only to reduce the severity of symptoms. Meanwhile, they could potentially make you sicker once you’re exposed to the virus, and/or cause persistent serious side effects such as those reviewed above.
While I won’t tell anyone what to do, I would urge you to take the time to review the science and weigh the potential risks and benefits based on your individual situation before you make a decision that you may regret for the rest of your life, which can actually be shortened with this vaccine. Undoubtedly, Pfizer and other vaccine makers suspect this as well, which is why Pfizer is bullying nations into covering for any and all of its mistakes.

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armedoldhippy

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finally eligible for vaccine. they dropped the requirement that you be a diabetic AND on medication. (i AM on medication for it) nurse at work helping me get an appointment. apparently, diabetics are MUCH more likely to get a "bad" case & die...pretty sure i've already had a mild case earlier, test inconclusive. am also blood type o neg, which supposedly lessens chances of bad results according to some studies.
 
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