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Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

  • yes, gimme

    Votes: 29 31.9%
  • not yet

    Votes: 15 16.5%
  • no way

    Votes: 47 51.6%

  • Total voters
    91
  • Poll closed .

trichrider

Kiss My Ring
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You check it out first. So far you’re batting zero.

since you don't want anything in the way of your narrative, here is the gist of it:


Innate Immune Suppression by SARS-CoV-2 mRNA Vaccinations: The role of G-quadruplexes, exosomes and microRNAs

Abstract

The mRNA SARS-CoV-2 vaccines were brought to market in response to the widely perceived public health crises of Covid-19. The utilization of mRNA vaccines in the context of infectious disease had no precedent, but desperate times seemed to call for desperate measures. The mRNA vaccines utilize genetically modified mRNA encoding spike proteins. These alterations hide the mRNA from cellular defenses, promote a longer biological half-life for the proteins, and provoke higher overall spike protein production. However, both experimental and observational evidence reveals a very different immune response to the vaccines compared to the response to infection with SARS-CoV-2. As we will show, the genetic modifications introduced by the vaccine are likely the source of these differential responses. In this paper, we present the evidence that vaccination, unlike natural infection, induces a profound impairment in type I interferon signaling, which has diverse adverse consequences to human health. We explain the mechanism by which immune cells release into the circulation large quantities of exosomes containing spike protein along with critical microRNAs that induce a signaling response in recipient cells at distant sites. We also identify potential profound disturbances in regulatory control of protein synthesis and cancer surveillance. These disturbances are shown to have a potentially direct causal link to neurodegenerative disease, myocarditis, immune thrombocytopenia, Bell’s palsy, liver disease, impaired adaptive immunity, increased tumorigenesis, and DNA damage. We show evidence from adverse event reports in the VAERS database supporting our hypothesis. We believe a comprehensive risk/benefit assessment of the mRNA vaccines excludes them as positive contributors to public health, even in the context of the Covid-19 pandemic.
 

h.h.

Active member
Veteran
since you don't want anything in the way of your narrative, here is the gist of it:


Innate Immune Suppression by SARS-CoV-2 mRNA Vaccinations: The role of G-quadruplexes, exosomes and microRNAs

Abstract

The mRNA SARS-CoV-2 vaccines were brought to market in response to the widely perceived public health crises of Covid-19. The utilization of mRNA vaccines in the context of infectious disease had no precedent, but desperate times seemed to call for desperate measures. The mRNA vaccines utilize genetically modified mRNA encoding spike proteins. These alterations hide the mRNA from cellular defenses, promote a longer biological half-life for the proteins, and provoke higher overall spike protein production. However, both experimental and observational evidence reveals a very different immune response to the vaccines compared to the response to infection with SARS-CoV-2. As we will show, the genetic modifications introduced by the vaccine are likely the source of these differential responses. In this paper, we present the evidence that vaccination, unlike natural infection, induces a profound impairment in type I interferon signaling, which has diverse adverse consequences to human health. We explain the mechanism by which immune cells release into the circulation large quantities of exosomes containing spike protein along with critical microRNAs that induce a signaling response in recipient cells at distant sites. We also identify potential profound disturbances in regulatory control of protein synthesis and cancer surveillance. These disturbances are shown to have a potentially direct causal link to neurodegenerative disease, myocarditis, immune thrombocytopenia, Bell’s palsy, liver disease, impaired adaptive immunity, increased tumorigenesis, and DNA damage. We show evidence from adverse event reports in the VAERS database supporting our hypothesis. We believe a comprehensive risk/benefit assessment of the mRNA vaccines excludes them as positive contributors to public health, even in the context of the Covid-19 pandemic.

Now their conclusions? If you can get past the first paragraph.
 

Three Berries

Active member
I see they finally came out and said that the mRNA jab will turn into DNA....... Got GMO?

Intracellular Reverse Transcription of Pfizer BioNTech COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 In Vitro in Human Liver Cell Line

https://www.mdpi.com/1467-3045/44/3/73/htm#B39-cimb-44-00073

Abstract

Preclinical studies of COVID-19 mRNA vaccine BNT162b2, developed by Pfizer and BioNTech, showed reversible hepatic effects in animals that received the BNT162b2 injection. Furthermore, a recent study showed that SARS-CoV-2 RNA can be reverse-transcribed and integrated into the genome of human cells. In this study, we investigated the effect of BNT162b2 on the human liver cell line Huh7 in vitro. Huh7 cells were exposed to BNT162b2, and quantitative PCR was performed on RNA extracted from the cells. We detected high levels of BNT162b2 in Huh7 cells and changes in gene expression of long interspersed nuclear element-1 (LINE-1), which is an endogenous reverse transcriptase. Immunohistochemistry using antibody binding to LINE-1 open reading frame-1 RNA-binding protein (ORFp1) on Huh7 cells treated with BNT162b2 indicated increased nucleus distribution of LINE-1. PCR on genomic DNA of Huh7 cells exposed to BNT162b2 amplified the DNA sequence unique to BNT162b2. Our results indicate a fast up-take of BNT162b2 into human liver cell line Huh7, leading to changes in LINE-1 expression and distribution. We also show that BNT162b2 mRNA is reverse transcribed intracellularly into DNA in as fast as 6 h upon BNT162b2 exposure.


Pfizer COVID Vax Is Converted Into Liver Cells’ DNA

https://thenewamerican.com/study-pfizer-covid-vax-is-converted-into-liver-cells-dna/


Another COVID myth is crumbling. People have been told time and again that COVID vaccines that use synthetic messenger RNA (mRNA) are the safest and most effective vaccines the world has ever seen. Although scientists around the world have raised concerns that the genetic vaccines can unpredictably affect humans since the viral mRNA can potentially enter human DNA — the central information storage system of all living beings — those concerns have been dismissed by the establishment doctors, and Big Tech has been gladly labeling any arguments of such a possibility as “misinformation.”

Now, however, Swedish researchers at Lund University have found that mRNA from Pfizer’s COVID “vaccine,” which is responsible for “teaching” human cells to produce the most toxic part of the virus, the spike protein, enters liver cells and is being converted into DNA.

In a study published in Current Issues in Molecular Biology, the researchers found that when the mRNA vaccine enters human liver cells it triggers the cells’ DNA to increase the production of the LINE-1 gene expression to make viral mRNA.
 
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armedoldhippy

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some research says it is not tobacco, but the chemicals cigarette companies added to it that is dangerous. mercury was identified long ago as a danger. opioids are pretty safe IF USED as doctors tell you. it is not news that they are addictive. aluminum? nope. it is the propellants that harmed the environment. still putting drinks into cans. talcum still being contested. every woman & child plus many men have used it, i don't know anyone harmed by it. certain sweeteners have warnings, true. (spoiler alert - California thinks EVERYTHING causes cancer) saturated fats...aren't they tasty? mmmm. GMOs are unpopular (yeah, yeah, i've seen the claims it damages your DNA) in certain circles, but i have not read anything proving they are harmful, i could be wrong. raw milk? drank it the first thirty years of my life, no problems. pasteurizing EVERYTHING is overkill. safety trumps popularity, unfortunately. cholesterol? 2 types. which is it they lied about? glyphosate...the EPA "says" that it is safe (as late as 2020) if used as directed, just like opiates. myself, i'd rather not have ANY chemicals sprayed on anything i eat or smoke.
 

h.h.

Active member
Veteran
fuckload of "likely"and "potentially" in there. enough wiggle room to cover nearly anything.

It’s an abstract. It covers the the hypothesis and the scope. An introduction only. That’s as far as they can read before hitting the big words.
 

h.h.

Active member
Veteran

They being your parents. Is there an entity named “they” somewhere? That’s just dumb.
 

Hammerhead

Disabled Farmer
ICMag Donor
Veteran
some research says it is not tobacco, but the chemicals cigarette companies added to it that is dangerous. mercury was identified long ago as a danger. opioids are pretty safe IF USED as doctors tell you. it is not news that they are addictive. aluminum? nope. it is the propellants that harmed the environment. still putting drinks into cans. talcum still being contested. every woman & child plus many men have used it, i don't know anyone harmed by it. certain sweeteners have warnings, true. (spoiler alert - California thinks EVERYTHING causes cancer) saturated fats...aren't they tasty? mmmm. GMOs are unpopular (yeah, yeah, i've seen the claims it damages your DNA) in certain circles, but i have not read anything proving they are harmful, i could be wrong. raw milk? drank it the first thirty years of my life, no problems. pasteurizing EVERYTHING is overkill. safety trumps popularity, unfortunately. cholesterol? 2 types. which is it they lied about? glyphosate...the EPA "says" that it is safe (as late as 2020) if used as directed, just like opiates. myself, i'd rather not have ANY chemicals sprayed on anything i eat or smoke.

100% True.. Too many were taking 5 instead of the 1 the dr said to take. For some, no matter what the drug is(even cannabis) they will abuse them. Where the prob was if any paid attention is that many Dr were getting their info from Purdue which said their drug was not addictive. Many Dr were overprescribing for anything that was causing pain based on Purdue's chart. People in the green were getting opioids. So green would get a 20mlg pill and increased it to 120mlg over time. There was a great show on Hulu about this.
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Cannavore

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Qtards posting abstracts from scientific studies as if they understand them lmfao.

trichrider has a long track record of posting scientific studies that actually go against his own claims because hes a cherry picker who sees only what he wants to see. Did this for years with global warming.
 

armedoldhippy

Well-known member
Veteran
100% True.. Too many were taking 5 instead of the 1 the dr said to take. For some, no matter what the drug is(even cannabis) they will abuse them. Where the prob was if any paid attention is that many Dr were getting their info from Purdue which said their drug was not addictive. Many Dr were overprescribing for anything that was causing pain based on Purdue's chart. People in the green were getting opioids. So green would get a 20mlg pill and increased it to 120mlg over time. There was a great show on Hulu about this.

pretty obvious that Purdue Pharma execs are swine, no argument from me on anything in your post. 👍 doctors gave my brother oxycontin when he was obviously going to die from his cancer, wanted him to take 5 per day. he took one at breakfast, and went fishing & smoking weed the rest of the day. if he had taken their "advice" he would have laid in his bed & wasted the last 6 months of his life drooling on himself ....
 

Hammerhead

Disabled Farmer
ICMag Donor
Veteran
pretty obvious that Purdue Pharma execs are swine, no argument from me on anything in your post. 👍 doctors gave my brother oxycontin when he was obviously going to die from his cancer, wanted him to take 5 per day. he took one at breakfast, and went fishing & smoking weed the rest of the day. if he had taken their "advice" he would have laid in his bed & wasted the last 6 months of his life drooling on himself ....

My mom was on a constant Hydro drip, with a hand held dose button she could press anytime. She was terminal but died from repository failure from the opiates. Most deaths are from people thinking they can handle the dose there taking, so they take more which kills them or after they stop using they think they can use the same amount as they use to.
 

trichrider

Kiss My Ring
Veteran
Qtards posting abstracts from scientific studies as if they understand them lmfao.

trichrider has a long track record of posting scientific studies that actually go against his own claims because hes a cherry picker who sees only what he wants to see. Did this for years with global warming.

funny! another one with trichrider derangement syndrome.
and i see you posting absolutely irrelevant drivel...get jabbed!
you didn't understand the 'science' then or now. how's that globull warming coming along lol?
your cretinous ad hominem attempt at smearing me is evidence of your ignorance.

how about you address what the 'science' says and ignore that i posted it? that shouldn't be too hard for such a smart lad like you.

all the 'conspiracy theories' of last two years are being proved true.

no gain of function
letter to Lancet by fraudXi
no lab leak
masks work
vaccine gives immunity
misreported mortality
mild vaccine side effects
 

mexcurandero420

See the world through a puff of smoke
Veteran
2.5% of vaccinated people in just released Pfizer paper will develop autoimmune diseases and 8.5% will develop musculoskeletal AESIs.

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h.h.

Active member
Veteran

They being who? Your parents? Is there a person called “they”. Maybe it’s you.
 

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