Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

[member 505892]

probably the dude from fight club

Robert 'bitch tits' Paulson?

 

[unclefishstick]

Robert 'bitch tits' Paulson?

his credentials are easily as good as tyler durden whose articles get cited by the gullible

 

[mexcurandero420]

You’re missing the point that there is ZERO evidence that vaccines are CAUSING clots.
There is actual evidence that covid19 is causing clots.
If you find any actual evidence that vaccines are causing thrombi, i hope you post it. But so far, everything that’s been presented looks like correlation, not causation.
It’s a LOT more likely that anyone dying from a thrombus has had a covid19 infection weeks or months prior to their dying from a thrombus.

This is what the Norwegian Medicines Agency wrote in their report.

As of 14 September 2021, over 7.3 million doses of the mRNA vaccines had been administered in Norway, and 296 suspected cases of blood clots had been reported following vaccination with these vaccines.

The Danish recommend aspiration

The Danish Health and Medicines Authority's guidelines have long recommended this, and now the Statens Serum Institut is following suit. Thus, there is agreement between the two authorities that a special precautionary principle should apply when vaccinating against covid-19.
Vaccination personnel should ensure that they are injected correctly into a muscle and not into the bloodstream by withdrawing the plunger of the needle slightly, aspirating, before administration. The Statens Serum Institut announced this on March 18 2021 after reports of a possible connection between the AstraZeneca vaccine and rare but serious side effects with blood clots and bleeding. Usually, according to the health authorities, one does not need to aspirate before injecting a vaccine.
The AstraZeneca vaccine was paused in Denmark on 11 March for a preliminary two weeks after reports of these rare, serious possible side effects.

Various messages

The hitherto diverse reports from the authorities have given rise to discussions about what is right and wrong, says Randi Bligaard Madsen, who is a nurse and coordinator at a vaccination center in Holstebro.
“We have always followed the Danish Health and Medicines Authority's recommendation for light aspiration on the needle before injection. But it has given rise to discussions when there have been nurses from, for example, Danish doctors' vaccination corps, who have followed the recommendations from the Statens Serum Institut (as they were before, ed.), ”Says Randi Bligaard Madsen.
"There have been quite peaceful discussions, where they have said that we are not used to doing that. But where we at the morning meeting and during the training have said that this is how we do it here. Our medical director has decided that, ”says Randi Bligaard Madsen, who in the vaccinating staff has nurses, dentists, sosu assistants and bioanalysts.
Discussions also arose on social media among health professionals about the proper handling of the vaccination, after two doctors on March 16 brought a thesis to the fore in the Health Policy Journal about possible causes of side effects of AstraZeneca. They had seen vaccinations on television where staff did not aspire. By aspiration, you can see if there is blood in the cannula, and you will thus inject into the bloodstream if you continue in the same place.
"If the vaccine is given incorrectly and hits the bloodstream - and not just the shoulder muscles - it can in the worst case give such a violent, systemic and inflammatory reaction that it can lead to many small blood clots in, among other things, lungs," said Niels Høiby, professor and chief physician at the University of Copenhagen and Rigshospitalet for the journal.
The Danish Health and Medicines Authority's recommendations can be read in the "Guideline for handling vaccination against COVID-19" from 5 February on sst.dk. The Statens Serum Institut's report of 18 March can be found on ssi.dk under the tab "Injection technique" and "Intramuscular injection in children and adults".

Still waiting for the raw data of those mRNA jabs.

Another thing is very strange too, what a Dutch parliament member found out.

 

[mexcurandero420]

Second jab and the booster jab is driving mass infections in the jabbed population

 

[Amynamous]

Correlation does NOT imply causation.

Edit: Also, 296/7300000= 0.00004

 

[Amynamous]

Maybe, you can explain why people who get the vaccine still get Covid.

Globally, close to two dozen vaccines have been approved to fight SARS2.
It’s been clinically demonstrated that the vaccines are effective in mobilizing the body’s defenses against SARS2.
If this were not the case, the vaccines would not have been approved by their respective approval agencies.
The fact that the virus is still able to overwhelm the body’s defenses in spite of the various vaccines, demonstrates how effective this virus is at reproducing at a very rapid rate.

 

[trichrider]

sources for your claims? none cited.

Vaccinations...


The U.S. COVID-19 Vaccination Program began December 14, 2020. As of January 20, 2022, 531.9 million vaccine doses have been administered in the United States. Overall, about 250.0 million people, or 75.3% of the total U.S. population, have received at least one dose of vaccine. About 209.8 million people, or 63.2% of the total U.S. population, have been fully vaccinated.* About 82.5 million additional or booster doses in fully vaccinated people have been reported; however, 53.2% of the total booster-eligible population has not yet received a booster dose. As of January 20, 2022, the 7-day average number of administered vaccine doses reported (by date of CDC report) to CDC per day was 1,094,988, a 15.2% decrease from the previous week.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...iew/index.html

the other two were not my claims, but articles, which you don't read anyway. so i didn't have to listen to your inanities.

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

Correlation does NOT imply causation.

Edit: Also, 296/7300000= 0.00004

Now apply that same skepticism to the COVID stats. (oh, but you won't).

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

Globally, close to two dozen vaccines have been approved to fight SARS2.
It’s been clinically demonstrated that the vaccines are effective in mobilizing the body’s defenses against SARS2.
If this were not the case, the vaccines would not have been approved by their respective approval agencies.
The fact that the virus is still able to overwhelm the body’s defenses in spite of the various vaccines, demonstrates how effective this virus is at reproducing at a very rapid rate.

You did not factor in corruption.

"The fact that the virus is still able to overwhelm the body’s defenses in spite of the various vaccines, demonstrates how ineffective the "vaccines" are at producing an immune response."
(fixed it for you^)

 

[trichrider]

Myocarditis Cases Reported After mRNA-Based COVID-19 Vaccination in The US From December 2020 To August 2021

Results Among 192, 405,448 persons receiving a total of 354,100,845 mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines during the study period, there were 1,991 reports of myocarditis to VAERS, and 1,626 of these reports met the case definition of myocarditis. Of those with myocarditis, the median age was 21 years (IQR, 16-31 years) and the median time to symptom onset was 2 days (IQR, 1-3 days).

https://www.scribd.com/document/555...n-in-the-US-From-December-2020-to-August-2021

 

[Cannavore]

risks of myocarditis and heart inflammation from covid/long covid is at a much greater % than the chance of getting myocarditis from the vaccine

 

[Cannavore]

Before COVID-19 the incidence of myocarditis was between one and 10 cases per 100,000 people per year. Rates are highest in males between 18 and 30 years old. Interestingly, most cases of myocarditis in the highest risk group are in otherwise healthy and active people.

According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the risk of myocarditis after infection with COVID-19 is much higher, at 146 cases per 100,000. The risk is higher for males, older adults (ages 50+) and children under 16 years old.

Myocarditis following COVID-19 vaccination is rare and the risk is much smaller than the risks of cardiac injury linked to COVID-19 itself.

Based on a study out of Israel, the risk of post-vaccine myocarditis is 2.13 cases per 100,000 vaccinated, which is within the range usually seen in the general population. This study is consistent with others in the United States and Israel which put the overall incidence of post-vaccine myocarditis between 0.3 and five cases per 100,000 people.

Over 80 per cent of myocarditis cases not related to COVID-19 or COVID-19 vaccination resolve spontaneously, while five per cent of patients die or require a heart transplant within one year of diagnosis.

Adults who develop myocarditis from COVID-19 have poorer outcomes than non-myocarditis COVID-19 cases, including a higher risk of death. It should be noted that myocarditis associated with SARS-CoV-2 infection is just one of several heart conditions linked to COVID-19 with outcomes that are worse than non-COVID-19 cases.

In cases of myocarditis following COVID-19 vaccination, the vast majority of cases are mild and resolve quickly. In adults, 95 per cent of cases were deemed to be mild. Similarly, in children, 98.6 per cent are mild, and there has not been any reported need for mechanical heart support (extracorporeal membrane oxygenation, when blood is pumped outside the body to a heart-lung machine) or deaths. All children who had heart weakness had complete normalization of their heart function on followup.

https://theconversation.com/myocardi...ination-174580




Myocarditis from C19 - 146 in 100,000
Myocarditis from Vaccine - 2.13 in 100,000

 

[Amynamous]

Now apply that same skepticism to the COVID stats. (oh, but you won't).

Which covid stats are you referring to?
SARS2 attacks the vascular system directly, as ACE2 receptors are ONLY found in the cells of vascular tissue. This leads to the formation of thrombi and micro thrombi. Thus SARS2 can cause clots days, weeks and months after infection.
Or were you referring to something else?

 

[unclefishstick]

Which covid stats are you referring to?
SARS2 attacks the vascular system directly, as ACE2 receptors are ONLY found in the cells of vascular tissue. This leads to the formation of thrombi and micro thrombi. Thus SARS2 can cause clots days, weeks and months after infection.
Or were you referring to something else?

you're talking to a wall constructed of the bricks that the saying "dumb as a brick" come from

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

Which covid stats are you referring to?
SARS2 attacks the vascular system directly, as ACE2 receptors are ONLY found in the cells of vascular tissue. This leads to the formation of thrombi and micro thrombi. Thus SARS2 can cause clots days, weeks and months after infection.
Or were you referring to something else?

"Died with COVID" vs "died of/from COVID."

 

[Amynamous]

"Died with COVID" vs "died of/from COVID."

Apologies
I’m not debating this again.

 

[BudToaster]

SARS2 attacks the vascular system directly, as ACE2 receptors are ONLY found in the cells of vascular tissue.

what about:

Where in the body is [ACE2 receptor] found?

ACE2 is present in many cell types and tissues including the lungs, heart, blood vessels, kidneys, liver and gastrointestinal tract. It is present in epithelial cells, which line certain tissues and create protective barriers.

am i misreading what you wrote?

 

[trichrider]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCir3Krd8-M
50,000 Truck Drivers Protesting in Canada

things are warming up in Canada (but not the weather) as supporters of FREEDOM line highways and overpasses in -30*s.
i'll never call yous hosers again.

Many many more here:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=canadian+truckers+convoy+2022

Go Truckers!!!!

Australia is planning the same next week.
Go Aussies!!!

...and THANK YOU for choosing Freedom over tyranny.

 

[Amynamous]

what about:



am i misreading what you wrote?

Not misreading.

I freely admit that my understanding of physiology has probably changed since i went to school.
I was taught that ACE2 receptors are found in the epithelium and endothelium of the veins, arteries and lymphatic system all the way to the capillary level. The vascular systems “feeds” and “removes garbage” from every cell in the body, and ACE2 receptors help regulate most of the vascular system as a result, thus ACE2 receptors are found everywhere in the body.
But maybe I have that wrong.
Can you describe/name the other cells that contain ACE2 receptors that are not the epithelium/endothelium of “vascular” cells?

 

[BudToaster]

Can you describe/name the other cells that contain ACE2 receptors that are not the epithelium/endothelium of “vascular” cells?

maybe my understanding of vascular cells is too restrictive ... from wikipedia:

Membrane bound Angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (mACE2) is a zinc-containing metalloenzyme located on the surface of intestinal enterocytes, renal tubular cells and other cells.[SUP][6][/SUP][SUP][16][/SUP]

and

Enterocytes, or intestinal absorptive cells, are simple columnar epithelial cells which line the inner surface of the small and large intestines.

are these intestinal epithelial cells considered to be "vascular"? if so, then i will just stfu.