Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

[trichrider]

now explain why vaccination is more effective and lasts longer than natural immunity

explain how you came to that conclusion, it seems that you have it backward.
vaccines perhaps, but not this experimental gene therapy.
natural immunity may be the reason i've not gotten the rotten.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e1.htm?s_cid=mm7104e1_w

 

[Absolem]

Maybe, you can explain why people who get the vaccine still get Covid.

People who get the flu shot can still get the flu(they just don't get the flu as bad). Maybe you should start there to understanding how vaccines work.

 

[trichrider]

People who get the flu shot can still get the flu(they just don't get the flu as bad). Maybe you should start there to understanding how vaccines work.

why get a shot then? afraid of dying?
living in fear of death is not much of a life.
mRNA is Not a 'vaxx', period!

 

[Three Berries]

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/facts.html Updated Dec. 15, 2021

MYTH: The natural immunity I get from being sick with COVID-19 is better than the immunity I get from COVID-19 vaccination.

FACT: Getting a COVID-19 vaccination is a safer and more dependable way to build immunity to COVID-19 than getting sick with COVID-19.

COVID-19 vaccination causes a more predictable immune response than infection with the virus that causes COVID-19. Getting a COVID-19 vaccine gives most people a high level of protection against COVID-19 and can provide added protection for people who already had COVID-19. One study showed that, for people who already had COVID-19, those who do not get vaccinated after their recovery are more than 2 times as likely to get COVID-19 again than those who get fully vaccinated after their recovery.

All COVID-19 vaccines currently available in the United States are effective at preventing COVID-19. Getting sick with COVID-19 can offer some protection from future illness, sometimes called “natural immunity,” but the level of protection people get from having COVID-19 may vary depending on how mild or severe their illness was, the time since their infection, and their age.

Getting a COVID-19 vaccination is also a safer way to build protection than getting sick with COVID-19. COVID-19 vaccination helps protect you by creating an antibody response without you having to experience sickness. Getting vaccinated yourself may also protect people around you, particularly people at increased risk for severe illness from COVID-19. Getting sick with COVID-19 can cause severe illness or death, and we can’t reliably predict who will have mild or severe illness. If you get sick, you can spread COVID-19 to others. You can also continue to have long-term health issues after COVID-19 infection.

Learn about why you should get vaccinated even if you already had COVID-19.

LOL we gonna play CDC vs CDC?

 

[Absolem]

why get a shot then? afraid of dying?
living in fear of death is not much of a life.
mRNA is Not a 'vaxx', period!

Science tells us why.

https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Do...-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf

 

[Absolem]

LOL we gonna play CDC vs CDC?

You didn't quote from the CDC. You quoted from a article that mentioned the CDC. Then you posted the CDC study that never claimed what you said it did. Notice how you didn't quote the CDC article itself?

I read the study you posted by the CDC and it clearly states those who are vaccinated are better protected.

 

[Hammerhead]

Maybe, you can explain why people who get the vaccine still get Covid.

Why do you keep bringing that up? You know the answer.

 

[Three Berries]

One reason the unvaccinated count is so high is they don't count you as vaccinated until you have all the shots and boosters and then wait two weeks.

And as far as the CDC saying natural immunity is NOT better than vaxing they don't say that in the study. Just the usual gobbly gook to confuse the sheeps.

Summary


What is already known about this topic?

Data are limited regarding the risks for SARS-CoV-2 infection and hospitalization after COVID-19 vaccination and previous infection.

What is added by this report?

During May–November 2021, case and hospitalization rates were highest among persons who were unvaccinated without a previous diagnosis. Before Delta became the predominant variant in June, case rates were higher among persons who survived a previous infection than persons who were vaccinated alone. By early October, persons who survived a previous infection had lower case rates than persons who were vaccinated alone.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e1.htm

 

[trichrider]

there is no vaxx for the flu or cold, there never has been.
why would you think that somehow miraculously they've invented one now?

because it's been pounded into your head day-in and day-out that this experimental jab is a vaccine, and it's not.
brought to you by Pfizer.

instead of patronizing perfidy, take ten minutes to view and read this post by Prof. Christian Perronne at the Luxembourg parliamentary hearing on “vaccines”

https://generaldispatch.whatfinger....-on-to-the-covid-scam-exposed-and-now-losing/

qui bono

there is no legitimate Emergency Use Authorization because there are alternatives that are useful which are not dangerous unlike the mRNA experimental gene therapy.
they must deny effectiveness of alternatives to continue the scamdemic.
at this point the government and it's agencies are in too deep to reverse course. the three letter agencies are all corporations that share in the largess this scam has stolen. that includes the hospitals that issued death certificates to garner bonuses from the 1.6 TRILLION relief fund.

Ivermectin Could Destroy Justification For Lockdowns And Vaccine Mandates
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/...-justification-lockdowns-and-vaccine-mandates

incidentally bill gates has threatened another more serious pandemic to raise the sphincter factor higher.

meanwhile the brandon administration is damaging the economy by restricting truckers from entering the US unless vaxxed, while allowing upwards of one million unvaxxed illegal immigrants through the porus southern border.

this indicates the virus is an economic bioweapon meant to destroy the US.

there is no avenue to immunity from the mRNA injections.

and now the ScotUS has shot down the mandates this administration has attempted to inflict...can't make this shtuff up.

 

[trichrider]

One reason the unvaccinated count is so high is they don't count you as vaccinated until you have all the shots and boosters and then wait two weeks.

And as far as the CDC saying natural immunity is NOT better than vaxing they don't say that in the study. Just the usual gobbly gook to confuse the sheeps.



https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e1.htm

this is part of the statistical manipulation in order to deceive.
looks like it worked quite well on the mass formation hysteria psychosis susceptible loons.

 

[Absolem]

there is no vaxx for the flu....why would you think that somehow miraculously they've invented one now?

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/flus...0flu%20vaccine.

Seasonal Flu Vaccines

Español | Other LanguagesWhat is a flu vaccine?


Influenza (flu) vaccines (often called “flu shots”) are vaccines that protect against the four influenza viruses that research indicates most common during the upcoming season. Most flu vaccines are “flu shots” given with a needle, usually in the arm, but there also is also a nasal spray flu vaccine.

The composition of flu vaccines has been updated for the 2021-2022 flu season.

 

[mexcurandero420]

Flu vaccine didn't work very well in the winter 2017-2018.A lot of people died, although they had their flu vaccine.Problem was their was a different strain spreading throughout the country which was not in the vaccine.

 

[unclefishstick]

this is part of the statistical manipulation in order to deceive.
looks like it worked quite well on the mass formation hysteria psychosis susceptible loons.

so, serious question,no hostile intent,no threats...

i really don't get why this is the only topic you choose to post about here on a pot growing site. in the long run you're not convincing anyone and i seriously doubt many people are even reading your citations to support your point except to quickly debunk them,so it seems like a bad investment of time to me.

i genuinely don't understand your motivation....even if everyone here said,"damn,he's totally right" then you would have successfully converted like a dozen people,and i reallt don't see that as worthwhile return on the time it takes to go find all this stuff then cut and paste it here,only to be roundly mocked.

 

[h.h.]

Flu vaccine didn't work very well in the winter 2017-2018.A lot of people died, although they had their flu vaccine.Problem was their was a different strain spreading throughout the country which was not in the vaccine.

So? Is that all you got?

 

[texasjack]

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/flus...0flu%20vaccine.

Seasonal Flu Vaccines

Español | Other LanguagesWhat is a flu vaccine?


Influenza (flu) vaccines (often called “flu shots”) are vaccines that protect against the four influenza viruses that research indicates most common during the upcoming season. Most flu vaccines are “flu shots” given with a needle, usually in the arm, but there also is also a nasal spray flu vaccine.

The composition of flu vaccines has been updated for the 2021-2022 flu season.

 

[flylowgethigh]

Well, we can forget about waffles now. Xiden has stopped Canadian truck drivers from coming across the border unless they too participate in the genocide jab experiment. No more real Maple Syrup. Just toxic corn sludge.

As for Mexico, how do the drivers feel about the mass waves of Central Americans he is bringing in, who do not have to be jabbed to enter? We get a lot of food from Mexico.

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/us-close-borders-unvaccinated-canadian-mexican-truckers-saturday

 

[unclefishstick]

it must get tiring clutching your pearls all day.and the chafing caused by twisted panties...ouch! perhaps a nice bit of gold bond medicated powder and some icy hot for the hands

 

[BudToaster]

so, serious question,no hostile intent,no threats...

i really don't get why this is the only topic you choose to post about here on a pot growing site. in the long run you're not convincing anyone and i seriously doubt many people are even reading your citations to support your point except to quickly debunk them,so it seems like a bad investment of time to me.

i genuinely don't understand your motivation....even if everyone here said,"damn,he's totally right" then you would have successfully converted like a dozen people,and i reallt don't see that as worthwhile return on the time it takes to go find all this stuff then cut and paste it here,only to be roundly mocked.

well, i greatly appreciate hearing from a like-minded person, who also enjoys the herb. i find it lonely on the front line. i am neither crazy nor political - i read the science constantly and the science does not match the dialog. evidently other people see a problem, too. maybe a different problem from me, but a disconnect from reality.

 

[unclefishstick]

well, i greatly appreciate hearing from a like-minded person, who also enjoys the herb. i find it lonely on the front line. i am neither crazy nor political - i read the science constantly and the science does not match the dialog. evidently other people see a problem, too. maybe a different problem from me, but a disconnect from reality.

you certainly seem to have a better grasp of microbiology than i do,my objection in all this is the posting of citations from the sketchiest of sources,often cloaked in enough science gibberish to fool a certain segment into thinking it's legit...but of course this is the point where each side loudly proclaims the other sides sources are suspect because of blah blah blah but the thing is something like new england journal of medicine carries far more weight than an article written under a pseudonym swiped from a character in fight club..

 

[funkyhorse]

Hi guys

I see this subject arises a lot of emotions and agressive answers
Covid is changing my life for good or bad but it is certainly changing it. Not only my life but everyone's life on this planet
There are many things happening at different places on this crazy worldwide experiment

These are news from the third world, countries that are being used as a massive experiment on human beings

You can translate these articles with your translators, this is from mainstream media:
The argentinian health minister has changed the epidemiologic criteria in order to confirm new covid cases, you can read how the government is confirming new positive cases without any PCR test in a country of over 100.000 cases per day with a 45 million population
At the end of this article it is also mentioned that the aim is to arrive to an endemic situation and they are relaxing measures on purpose
Basically, the aim of the policy is what cannavore has called eugenics
The same health minister is saying at the end in the same article that this goal might get complicated to reach in case there is a new variant.
https://www.infobae.com/politica/202...s-de-covid-19/

On this article you can also read at the end of it that the argentinian FDA has approved the Pfizer vaccine for kids between 5 and 11 years of age and bought 5 million doses which will be coerced or forcedly applied on third world kids
https://tn.com.ar/salud/noticias/202...d-19-sin-test/

Do you vaccinate your kids in your first world countries with these unproved vaccines or is it an experiment on third world kids first?

On a positive note, it seems flu and influenza have been erradicated. Now every case is covid, no more flu at least in the third world
I would like to know if you people have the answers: PCR tests can distinguish between Covid and other forms of influenza?

It is clear that the policies being applied in the third world with support of world powers are cooking and promoting the next wave. It only needs one of these third world doctors or health workers recruited to work for cheap at first world countries to sneak in and arrive asymptomatic to the first world and start spreading the new variant

Have a nice sunday. And try to keep your agression for yourselves and your own lives