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armedoldhippy

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How do I justify speaking about religion in this thread?

you can't. this is about a virus. go start another thread instead of preaching to folks that are discussing something else. do you understand the meaning of the term "irrelevant" ? if not, google it.
 

Swamp Thang

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you can't. this is about a virus. go start another thread instead of preaching to folks that are discussing something else. do you understand the meaning of the term "irrelevant" ? if not, google it.

Cut him a break for old time's sake, ArmedOldHippy, for we are going through trying times unlike anything history has recorded for a full century, causing people to cherish and renew beliefs that are dear to them, both to keep hope alive, and to prevent themselves from slipping into the darkness of despair.

Like you, my religion is simple, and requires no holy books, since all I need remember is to show respect where possible, in the hopes of getting some back in return. I've only ever set foot in churches for weddings on extremely rare occasion, but for those who go there regularly, I offer no judgement or criticism.

Hell, there is a large segment of society that peers down their noses at us stoners, while regularly getting drunk on gut-rot grog, and wagging stern fingers at us for being sub-human "drug addicts", but since none of them sign my paycheck, I refrain from expressing my thoughts about the devastating effects of booze on the body and mind.

In short, whatever brings peace of mind to any given person, without inflicting harm on anyone else, is fine in my book. That said, don't get me started talking about that OTHER belief system whose cult members feel compelled to shed blood in appeasement of their very cruel and bloodthirsty deity......
 

Medfinder

Chemon 91
Coronavirus Cases:
21,128,055
view by country
Deaths:
758,316
Recovered:
13,972,944
ACTIVE CASES
6,396,795
Currently Infected Patients
6,332,236 (99%)
in Mild Condition

64,559 (1%)
Serious or Critical

CLOSED CASES
14,731,260
Cases which had an outcome:
13,972,944 (95%)
Recovered / Discharged

758,316 (5%)
Deaths:comfort:
 

armedoldhippy

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Cut him a break for old time's sake, ArmedOldHippy, for we are going through trying times unlike anything history has recorded for a full century, causing people to cherish and renew beliefs that are dear to them, both to keep hope alive, and to prevent themselves from slipping into the darkness of despair.

Like you, my religion is simple, and requires no holy books, since all I need remember is to show respect where possible, in the hopes of getting some back in return. I've only ever set foot in churches for weddings on extremely rare occasion, but for those who go there regularly, I offer no judgement or criticism.

Hell, there is a large segment of society that peers down their noses at us stoners, while regularly getting drunk on gut-rot grog, and wagging stern fingers at us for being sub-human "drug addicts", but since none of them sign my paycheck, I refrain from expressing my thoughts about the devastating effects of booze on the body and mind.

In short, whatever brings peace of mind to any given person, without inflicting harm on anyone else, is fine in my book. That said, don't get me started talking about that OTHER belief system whose cult members feel compelled to shed blood in appeasement of their very cruel and bloodthirsty deity......

what i said may have come across as harsh. i admit that. i intended it to be so. we have a hard enough time staying on topic in these threads without someone trying to preach to the "heathens". there is room for threads RE religion here without spreading it across the other threads. i have my own ideas on religion. when a thread starts up on it, i will probably participate...
 

Amynamous

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Chemon 91

Don’t worry about Grandma, dying alone in the nursing home. She has dementia and is scared, but she surely understands. It’s for the greater good.

Don’t worry about losing your business, the dream business that you opened with a second mortgage on your house... oh, and don’t worry about losing your house. It’s for the greater good.

Don’t worry about your child’s depression because she can’t figure out how to navigate the online classes and she misses her best friend. It’s all for the greater good.

Don’t worry about your Aunt who can’t get treatment for her cancer. Her sacrifice is saving lives...just not hers. It’s for the greater good.

Make sure you call CPS on your neighbor for letting her kids go outside to play! Don’t worry when the stranger takes her kids while they cry out for their momma. It’s all for the greater good.

Don’t worry about the looters and people burning down your town. They’re peaceful. It’s all for the greater good.



It's Shakesperian the way you quasi intelligent people here admitted that if the "EXPERTS" told you to stick your head up your ass to stop the spread , you would do it :biglaugh:

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Shaggy and knucklehead Bob booted...hmm

Back on topic..

Here is another site that has over 3000 covid 19 stories news and discussion...https://www.godlikeproductions.com/search.php?q=Covid+19

If you recover from the virus, you’re protected for up to three months, the C.D.C. says.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention updated their guidance recently to suggest that people who have recovered from the virus can safely mingle with others for three months.

It was a remarkable addition to the body of guidance from the agency, and the first acknowledgment that immunity to the virus may persist for at least three months.

In June, a study found that antibody levels could wane over a course of two to three months in people with confirmed infections who experienced mild symptoms or no symptoms. They drop off, but they may still be present at low levels, including below the limit of detection.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/14/world/coronavirus-covid-19.html#link-4e074838
 

flylowgethigh

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The statists amongst us, who themselves have cast their lots with whomever/whatever is controlling foochie and his BS, would deny the HCQ to people who want to try it. Ask yourself why these people are letting themselves have their thinking pre-empted by the damn tee vee? Pure programmed hatred for President Trump is all I can figure. I pity those fools, and some are among us here.

Denying an over-the-counter chemical like HCQ and some zinc? Why? On a pot site no less, where unaccepted by "authority" was, and for many still is, the name of the game. How about quinine water?

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/y...s-spewing-misleading-and-toxic-disinformation
 
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armedoldhippy

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The statists amongst us, who themselves have cast their lots with whomever/whatever is controlling foochie and his BS, would deny the HCQ to people who want to try it. Ask yourself why these people are letting themselves have their thinking pre-empted by the damn tee vee? Pure programmed hatred for President Trump is all I can figure. I pity those fools, and some are among us here.

Denying an over-the-counter chemical like HCQ and some zinc? Why? On a pot site no less, where unaccepted by "authority" was, and for many still is, the name of the game. How about quinine water?

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/y...s-spewing-misleading-and-toxic-disinformation

if it is available OTC like you say, no one is being "denied" it. if it requires a script, medical professionals do not have to hand it out. that is not how doctors operate. there are numerous (maybe too many) rules they follow or lose their license. otherwise, folks would be buying all kinds of shit that is not safe or needed for whatever their ailment.
 

Im'One

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if it is available OTC like you say, no one is being "denied" it. if it requires a script, medical professionals do not have to hand it out. that is not how doctors operate. there are numerous (maybe too many) rules they follow or lose their license. otherwise, folks would be buying all kinds of shit that is not safe or needed for whatever their ailment.

If d trump told me tomatoes were red, I would check to see.
The man is incapable of telling the truth or defending himself. He lied about things thats dont matter and tells the truth about his crime.
Brags about his crimes in fact because he has never faced conequences and never will.
Unless of course there is an after life or "karma" which has never been evidenced in my experiences.
But there We go back to religion again...sorry.
Lol.
 

dramamine

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If you recover from the virus, you’re protected for up to three months, the C.D.C. says.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention updated their guidance recently to suggest that people who have recovered from the virus can safely mingle with others for three months.

It was a remarkable addition to the body of guidance from the agency, and the first acknowledgment that immunity to the virus may persist for at least three months.

In June, a study found that antibody levels could wane over a course of two to three months in people with confirmed infections who experienced mild symptoms or no symptoms. They drop off, but they may still be present at low levels, including below the limit of detection.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/14/world/coronavirus-covid-19.html#link-4e074838

It's kind of a half-truth for the CDC to say this. Your body doesn't maintain large stores of antibodies indefinitely. It keeps a blueprint, so to say, of how to make the antibodies and then manufactures and deploys them as and when needed. So to find greatly reduced numbers of antibodies months after infection/recovery is normal. What it does not mean, but this NYT story implies, is that the body necessarily becomes susceptible to the virus again.
 

flylowgethigh

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if it is available OTC like you say, no one is being "denied" it. if it requires a script, medical professionals do not have to hand it out. that is not how doctors operate. there are numerous (maybe too many) rules they follow or lose their license. otherwise, folks would be buying all kinds of shit that is not safe or needed for whatever their ailment.

yeah, like F'in pot. Old hippy, not, IMO. The hipprocracy around here...

One day in the past, America stopped being a free country with free thinkers. Sad change.
 

Medfinder

Chemon 91
Coronavirus Cases:
21,410,511
view by country
Deaths:
764,402
Recovered:
14,190,948
ACTIVE CASES
6,455,161
Currently Infected Patients
6,390,677 (99%)
in Mild Condition

64,484 (1%)
Serious or Critical
Show Statistics
CLOSED CASES
14,955,350
Cases which had an outcome:
14,190,948 (95%)
Recovered / Discharged

764,402 (5%)
Deaths:comfort:
 

mr.brunch

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It's kind of a half-truth for the CDC to say this. Your body doesn't maintain large stores of antibodies indefinitely. It keeps a blueprint, so to say, of how to make the antibodies and then manufactures and deploys them as and when needed. So to find greatly reduced numbers of antibodies months after infection/recovery is normal. What it does not mean, but this NYT story implies, is that the body necessarily becomes susceptible to the virus again.

This. ^^
 

aridbud

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Originally Posted by dramamine View Post
It's kind of a half-truth for the CDC to say this. Your body doesn't maintain large stores of antibodies indefinitely. It keeps a blueprint, so to say, of how to make the antibodies and then manufactures and deploys them as and when needed. So to find greatly reduced numbers of antibodies months after infection/recovery is normal. What it does not mean, but this NYT story implies, is that the body necessarily becomes susceptible to the virus again.



Totally agree!! Same with flu vaccine.

flylowgethigh....for someone that may have gone to UCLA or a Cali college, I find it interesting you don't comprehend nor understand.

CDC, because it was stripped to the bone in funding, same as the USPS, mistakes are made. I still have faith in the CDC, WHO and Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, and Surgeon General Jerome Adams., Dr, Redfield.

I don't believe Alex Azar, Health and Human Services puppet of DJT.

This is a whole new ball game, not ever encountering this type of Corona Virus. Others were handled and did not cause global DEATH, or illness. Post COVID folks are still suffering with debilitating consequences.

Get your sources from trusted sites, medical centers: Johns Hopkins, Mayo, UCLA Med Center, Cleveland Clinic other than OAN. FOX or whatever. PBS is a straight shooter, no partisan leaning....just the facts.

https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/reliable-sources-for-coronavirus-info/

WORLDWIDE:
Confirmed
21.2M
+291K

Recovered
13.3M

Deaths
765K
+6,769

USA:
Confirmed
5.32M
+55,057
Deaths
168K
+1,234
 
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dramamine

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Originally Posted by dramamine View Post
It's kind of a half-truth for the CDC to say this. Your body doesn't maintain large stores of antibodies indefinitely. It keeps a blueprint, so to say, of how to make the antibodies and then manufactures and deploys them as and when needed. So to find greatly reduced numbers of antibodies months after infection/recovery is normal. What it does not mean, but this NYT story implies, is that the body necessarily becomes susceptible to the virus again.



Totally agree!! Same with flu vaccine.

flylowgethigh....for someone that may have gone to UCLA or a Cali college, I find it interesting you don't comprehend nor understand.

CDC, because it was stripped to the bone in funding, same as the USPS, mistakes are made. I still have faith in the CDC, WHO and Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, and Surgeon General Jerome Adams., Dr, Redfield.

I don't believe Alex Azar, Health and Human Services puppet of DJT.

This is a whole new ball game, not ever encountering this type of Corona Virus. Others were handled and did not cause global DEATH, or illness. Post COVID folks are still suffering with debilitating consequences.

Get your sources from trusted sites, medical centers: Johns Hopkins, Mayo, UCLA Med Center, Cleveland Clinic other than OAN. FOX or whatever. PBS is a straight shooter, no partisan leaning....just the facts.

https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/reliable-sources-for-coronavirus-info/

WORLDWIDE:
Confirmed
21.2M
+291K

Recovered
13.3M

Deaths
765K
+6,769

I don't really see how less funding could cause them to forget how antibodies work. Tend to think it's just another way to keep the fear at peak levels.
 

flylowgethigh

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< PBS is a straight shooter, no partisan leaning....just the facts.>

You trust what comes out of Judy Woodruff's mouth? She is a partisan liar. I have formed my own opinion about what is going on, and like I said, it saddens me to see Americans fooled so easily.

This whole WuFlu discussion is something I will try to avoid, like that SC. Just too much BS, from people who are so sure of themselves.

The end of January will be interesting. This country is not coming back together. I am on the side of truth and liberty.
 

Swamp Thang

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OCCAMS razor. Never consign poor performance to duplicity what plain old incompetence will explain

Sounds like a corollary to The Peter Principle, which states that every individual within any hierarchy, will rise to their own level of incompetence, given sufficient time.
 

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