cornflake's 2nd stab at a kikass sour bubble grow

[VirginHarvester]

Can someone explain when/why you cut the seeds to help germ.

I've never had problem germinating in paper towel. Did you scuff those or something to help the water soak into the seed? Steele describes a method he uses. Is that what you did Cornflake and is it something that needs to be done often or just if you have a batch of seeds that are particularly strong and robust looking?

I would probably be uncomfortable trying this even if my seeds looked like stumps. If I ever try to germ in paper towels and they don't crack after a few days would I then be able to try and shave off some of the shell or is it too late then?

 

[cornflake]

VH - glad you're so interested but don't go stressing too hard just yet. Go to page 1 of the thread and you'll see what I did. I'm happy to answer any questions but my good brother don't make me work more than I need to.

As to whether or not they'll be ok....to try to open as described by Steele, after 3 days in water? Steele told you what he did, and in his explanation he answered your question.

 

[olddrifter66]

I'll practice like Steele said.....

 

[cornflake]

tagging in for this one...

if i may ask (pardon my ignorance)...what is "DMT pheno"??

and what are the desired traits of said pheno??

thank you.

Hiya Sleepy

As you probably realise Grindhouse work very hard to get us a stable seed, once it gets to us via seed resellers, as no doubt do alot of other breeders.

The DMT pheno being super-strong meds and obviously Steele decided to get a "super" sour bubble seed option. I believe it's still a pheno to seek within the seeds we grow out, but that we're more likely of finding said pheno due to some work being done by our mate Steele.

The Intro thread - http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=102000

 

[cornflake]

Update - Day 1

Update - Day 1

We're still 4 from 6, so I'll have to do some surgery in an hour or so, and see what happens

 

[guest3854]

CornFlake , looks like you got all tha bases covered round hea' .

Olddrifter , keep us posted . Remember , in towels , go drier than wetter .

Sleepy, what CornFlake has reiterated is spot on .... DMT is THE pheno to have within tha Sour Bubble line, GrindHouse is workin' on stabilizing it . Traits being worked, potent DMT flavored herb ..... Nice to have ya with us !

VH , in regards to shaving .... I had seed in tha cups fer up to five days but it's all dependent of yer environment. After tha soak , tha beans are very soft, slit tha top off and expose tha embryo within. Place in towels and in a day er 2 , you should have tails. Again , we have plenty o beans to fuck with so you fellas worried bout trying tha technique may want to practice on bagseed.


Steele

 

[olddrifter66]

CornFlake , looks like you got all tha bases covered round hea' .

Olddrifter , keep us posted . Remember , in towels , go drier than wetter .

Sleepy, what CornFlake has reiterated is spot on .... DMT is THE pheno to have within tha Sour Bubble line, GrindHouse is workin' on stabilizing it . Traits being worked, potent DMT flavored herb ..... Nice to have ya with us !

VH , in regards to shaving .... I had seed in tha cups fer up to five days but it's all dependent of yer environment. After tha soak , tha beans are very soft, slit tha top off and expose tha embryo within. Place in towels and in a day er 2 , you should have tails. Again , we have plenty o beans to fuck with so you fellas worried bout trying tha technique may want to practice on bagseed.


Steele

Will do Steele.....here is my method:

After soak, into the zippy


I wring towel out with a quick squeeze to keep moist, but not superwet

The only one so far that may have a chance....just put her in soil....we'll see


Last four....practicing on bagseed as instructed....wheewww

 

[olddrifter66]

We're still 4 from 6, so I'll have to do some surgery in an hour or so, and see what happens

Looking great CF...looks like determined tadpoles...

 

[cornflake]

Thanks for that Steele, yeah man I'll try to help as best I can, given I'm just a joe blow, and no guru fo sho'. I forgot to buy a blade today so I'll have to wait until tomorrow to try the surgery, but I've moved these last 2 seeds back into water until then, to get them to soften more, in preparation for their NipTuck

Update....I got 1 gal up and stretchin, it's night here so I'll check in the morning...

 

[cornflake]

So how did you go olddrifter? Have you attempted to surgery the last seed?

Man you'll be right with the popped one. Sour Bubble has such a nice effect in all phenos I've heard, and we can increase potency if we like the effect by making dry sift or honey oil or whatever other way you like, to concentrate the thc.

Don't stress and freak, just practice your skills and get that seed off her training wheels and it'll be good fo sho'

 

[olddrifter66]

Congrats on the healthy ladies....looks real nice.

Well, so far only the one popped, but i still got the other 4. I am going to start the soak in a bit. I did peel one side of the shell off and she seems to have responded a little. I put her in soil and will know more in a couple days.

I did however practice a bit on bagseed and did something interesting that I would like to know what you think. I completely scraped and peeled the outer layer off of the whole seed. I will take pics in a bit to show you. I wonder if there are any kind of embryonic properties in that layer that I may have disturbed?

 

[cornflake]

Congrats on the healthy ladies....looks real nice.

Well, so far only the one popped, but i still got the other 4. I am going to start the soak in a bit. I did peel one side of the shell off and she seems to have responded a little. I put her in soil and will know more in a couple days.

I did however practice a bit on bagseed and did something interesting that I would like to know what you think. I completely scraped and peeled the outer layer off of the whole seed. I will take pics in a bit to show you. I wonder if there are any kind of embryonic properties in that layer that I may have disturbed?

I just did my niptuck and the sour bublets all have nice facelifts now hehe

Actually, I put 4 into rockwool, after seeing tails from paper towel, and after a full day no changes. So I got drastic on them.

One is OK. I pulled the 3 seedlings with shells still on back out of the rockwool and removed the split shell myself, manually with tweezers, needle and microscope. Then replanted them.

I'll post pics tomorrow.

The 2 remaining no-poppers got sliced but I found that one half of the shell stuck to the embryo, so I've moved those 2 into paper towel, in the dark to see what they decide to do.

So...

1x looks great, popped easy and discarded own shell
3x look good, popped easy but had trouble losing shell
2x look like they may not make it, we'll give them some TLC and they might repay me with some THC

 

[olddrifter66]

Good work corn.....I put the last four in soak last night.
This morning they are in towels....we'll see what happens.
I used hemos and an xacto knife to peel the outer layer off before soak. fingers x

 

[guest3854]

Olddrifter, I usually wait till bean splits till it goes in towels .... Just change tha towels daily, as they can develop molds .... Also experimented with hydrogen peroxide fer tha soak, no ill effects when diluted 1:2-1:3 ratio.

Good luck to both of ya, and regardless, we'll have some replacements fer ya if things turn south ....
Steele

 

[olddrifter66]

Olddrifter, I usually wait till bean splits till it goes in towels .... Just change tha towels daily, as they can develop molds .... Also experimented with hydrogen peroxide fer tha soak, no ill effects when diluted 1:2-1:3 ratio.

Good luck to both of ya, and regardless, we'll have some replacements fer ya if things turn south ....
Steele

Thanks Steele, Im trying your way for the SB. I put them back in the drink and will give'm a day or so. Thanks for the help...priceless.

Corn...I hope im not muckin up your thread....
I wanted to show you what I was testing then Im done.....

I took pics of my version of scuffing....
First the bag seed testers:



Unskinned

Skinned

They were both put straight into towel on thursday. Is it coincidence that the skinned one popped first? Hmmmm

SourBubble



The four on the left are SB...the others are just for comparison.....
My question to you was...do you think removing the outer layer may cause adverse effects like the loss of some embryonic nutrients or something?

 

[cornflake]

I believe the reason why the "skinned" seeds pop faster is because they've been scuffed, you've helped the water molecules to break the barrier by removing part of the barrier (re: my laymen's explanation earlier) the water-sealed shell.

If you're planning on popping the "skinned" seeds you aren't losing any amniotic fluid or anything *wink*

I wouldn't be doing that and then trying to store them that's fo sho'. I actually tried that method to remove my 2 slow seeds.

Good luck.

 

[olddrifter66]

Ok. Thanks for the feedback...hopefully we'll see some action soon....

 

[cornflake]

Sad News

Sad News

Well I've learnt alot more about sour bubble germination, I think

I believe I should never have handled to embryos. I think my contact killed em.

I think if I could do it again, I'd scuff em up even more, and once cracked I'd pull the shell and leave em in towel a bit until they're recovered.

Then I'd transfer after they show recovery (new root growth).

I have only one sour bubbling out of my 6.

Here's my dead ones...

Dangit

 

[cornflake]

Lone Survivor

Lone Survivor

Here's my sour bubble survivor, with the 5 alpha diesels I popped at same time. The sour bubble is on the right hand side in the group shots.

 

[SmokeToLive]

Here's my sour bubble survivor, with the 5 alpha diesels I popped at same time. The sour bubble is on the right hand side in the group shots.

It's like it is yawning and stretching. Hi cute little plant.