composting soil question

[Guest]

how long is too long for a mix to be sitting before i transfer seedlings into it?

i dont want it to be too hot and burn my seedlings to death...

 

[irie-i]

i think there is no "too long" unless your soil starts to mold or something. in fact i think the longer the better

 

[Guest]

i thought that leaving it for such a long time would make it too hot and burn newborns?

 

[irie-i]

on the contrary, itll cool after a while

 

[Suby]

Hot is relative to what your describing,


when a mix is composting there is a heat phase where a quick spike in the microherd population cause actual HEAT and the composting material will actually get hot.

Hot also refers to the amount of ferts availble in the soil, if there are alot then it will burn the seedlings that don't need much in term of ferts as they are small.

C for seedling just use alot of vermiculite and some perlite make it

vermiculite 1/3
perlite 1/3
composted soil 1/3

this way ferts are only 1/3 as availble and the seedlings get what they need which at this stage is water more than anything else.

Plain Promix before ammending with 50% perlite is best for the seedling stage.

So C how are those testers comming along????

Suby

 

[Guest]

my tea's ph is about 5.9 -6.0 but the plant still isnt able to absorb any. once it was green again after i was feeding it the bottled water, i started feeding it the tea and it has progressively gotten yellow again so i am dumbfounded.

 

[Guest]

also, a question about my composting. its starting to get colder and colder outside and thats where my composting bin is. what should i do? is it alright to bring it inside? what about when i have to wet it down a bit?

 

[Suby]

well the beneficials in the soil will live above freezing and rejuvinate when you bring them inside and use them so that's ok, as long as the initial composting was taken care of while temps were still nominal (summer/fall wheather).
You can bring it indoors just wet it lightly, it just has to be moist not drenched.

 

[Suby]

C list me everything you put in that tea and what you did, tea work if well brewed period.
The ph of the tea sounds fine, have you tried making the tea with bottled water, I still think your source of water is a problem.

Suby

 

[Guest]

yes, the tea was made with bottled water. i forget the exact measurements, but it was something like 2 tbs/ gal of seaweed because i dont have any kelp to put in at the moment, 1 tbs of molasses, 1 tbs each of fulvic and humic acids, blood meal and ewc and im not really sure but i might have put some high p guano in there aswell... i didnt bubble it for 24 hours to get the chlorine out because my bottled water i believe is un chlorinated . i bubbled it for 2 days (48 hrs) before i fed it to the plant.

il see if the exact measurements are in my pm's i have recieved from you...

i found this in my ph testing thread:

Use

1TBS EWC
1TSP blood meal (you never use bone meal in a atea)
1TBS liquid seawed
1TBS of molasses
1TBS of fulvic or humic acid

skip the guano until later in flowering
seing as it's a small batch skip the tea bag and just mic everyting together an brew it 24hrs-48hrs.

thats what i followed so i guess i didnt use the guano after all.

 

[vonforne]

What type of bottled water are you using because some bottled water contains high amounts of sodium. That is bad for the girls. Did you use the same brand as before? You might want to check it out.

 

[Guest]

Nestle Pure life. I have a bottle sitting right here. let me read the back.

it says
mineral salt content: 87 ppm
fluoride ion: 0 ppm

and its natural spring water.

 

[Guest]

soo... any ideas?

 

[Suby]

I dunno man, i don't want to leave you high and dry but sick plants are not my forte,
show us a pick and maybe it'll be clearer to us what's going on.

Giving too much fert can lock plants out making them look like the have a def. maybe that's what's up.

S

 

[Guest]

il go and snap some pics right now...

sorry for such big pictures...

 

[Suby]

wow that's a fucked up plant lol.
sorry you knew that, see you shouldn't have to fert it if you have stuff in the soil.
That's the same plant I saw a few weeks ago right?
It still looks locked out and ingenerally bad shape dunno man, try the sick plant forum or my MyNameIsStich she loves these kinds of mind benders.

S

 

[vonforne]

Hey you could take these pics over to the cannibas infirmary.
http://www.icmag.com/ic/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=30&f=83
and there is this girl who tells people what is wrong with their plants. there is a whole directory there with pictures.

Ya, Mynameistich

 

[Guest]

i think im just going to kill it and start 2 new ones...

im wondering what i can use to measure each of my ingredients?
this is what i use:
5x spaghnum peat
3x perlite
1x EWC

what can i use to measure that? i was using a ten oz drinking cup.

i just got some kelp meal today... how much of these ingredients should i add per gallon?

i have:
dolomite lime
blood meal
bone meal
high p guano
kelp meal

 

[Suby]

C i dunno man but the soil in those pics looks suspicious, use a recognized brand of peat like ProMix, it's easy to find.

I dunno guys check the texture of that topsoil, looks like cedar grounds.\\

S

 

[jaykush]

whats the ph of the soil or soil runoff. how longs it been in that pot. all i can say is flush flush flush, give it a good nitrogen and ewc tea only, no bone, blood, kelp. your not in the position to start giving it more stuff. you need to clean the soil and replace what it NEEDS to live.

that soil does look a little like ceder suby.