Committing suicide...

[The Bee Keeper]

depression is very real, very quiet,and very deadly.It affects strong and weak minds alike and is by far the number 1 cause of suicide.Just follow TrichyTrichy's advice as a rule of thumb.
Vado....I am honestly and sincerly sorry to hear that.

 

[mosstrooper]

I'm guessing a significant number of young people who commit suicide are gay and unable to deal with the stigma attached.

lw

Im guessing not.

 

[mrwags]

My Story For The One's Calling Pussy

My Story For The One's Calling Pussy

I think I was about 15 or so and had the most beautiful girl who loved me dearly and you all know how it is true love and all but gotta say even today I remember the fun we had.

Her senior prom was coming up and it just so happened I had an important engagement (race) that required me so she went on her own.

Days later after it was all over I noticed a HUGE change in her and simply felt she was pissed I missed her prom I know I would have been but her actions and attitude were far more mean and hateful than I felt the situation deserved so I did not show her a kind eye when it continued into the later weeks.

One day I get a call and it's her babbling and crying and screaming that she was sorry and that for what it was worth she loved me. I heard the shotgun click (even a blind man knows that sound)heard the shot followed immediately by the thud. I rushed to her house to find her in the hallway and truly gotta say I hope no one ever has to see something like that ever in their lives.

For FUGGIN YEARS I wrestled with the thought of her doing this why? Maybe if I did this or did that or .......

I simply hated her for what she did no note no nothing not even a goodbye so yeah up till then I would agree with using the pussy way out theory BUT...

Many Many years later her mom was on her death bed and I got a call and was asked to come see her. I walked in and there she lay days from death but yet her eyes were still full of love. You see I blamed her to just like I did myself. She asks me to sit down and say's to me, I know for years you have blamed me as well as yourself for her but felt b4 she passed I needed to know the truth.

Remember the prom I posted in the beginning of this thread? It seems half way through she wanted to leave and walked home in her dress. Somewhere between the prom and home she was abducted and raped and a few weeks later she found out she was pregnant and simply could not handle the fact of having a rape baby.

So I gotta ask who we calling pussy now?

We are ALL here to play the game NOT keep the score. Shit happens everyday that we simply cannot control good or bad how we roll with it to me is what makes us who we are.

To judge anyone puts us in a god's shoes whoever your god may be and that to me is a heavy burden that most would be far better off without.

This is not the only time in my life I have personally dealt with suicide but is the one story I will share AGAIN to maybe try to get some to look outside the box and understand sometimes we CANNOT understand because we are we and they are them PERIOD.


I Hope This Helps It Did Last Time
Mr.Wags

 

[chuckyoufarley]

the only good thing (if you can call it good)about suicide you cant do it twice

 

[Madrus Rose]

Done a little reading on it .... Suicide is the result of depression and chemical imbalances. People don't just kill themselves "just because". It's because they are mentally ill. It's the result of a person's genetics predisposition to depression and trauma the person has experienced.

Saying it's the "height of human selfishness" or "for pussies" is about as ignorant and stupid as you can possibly get.

Very sorry to hear of loss of sister V, that was a great thing to share ....


Just a little reading ...the suggested percentage of mental disorder at the time of suicide range between 87% to 98%.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide
Starting with type mood disorders in 30% , substance abuse in 18%, schizophrenia in 14% and personality disorders in 13% .

These stats only general overview as 50% of deaths are due to alcohol & substance abuse & the intense depressions that follow . With adolescents the estimates of drug/alcohol playing a role in as much as 70% .

There are many complicated & varied circumstances but the most common diagnosed psychiatric disorder precipitating suicide , depression....pretty noteable stats here on Depression :

" Depression, one of the most commonly diagnosed psychiatric disorders[16][17] is being diagnosed in increasing numbers in various segments of the population worldwide,[18][19] and is often a precipitating factor in suicide. Depression in the United States alone affects 17.6 million Americans each year or 1 in 6 people.

Within the next twenty years depression is expected to become the second leading cause of disability worldwide and the leading cause in high-income nations, including the United States.

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( * Mrwags ,wow... don't know what to say ... that story is such a personal one & you must have carried that far down from those younger days , how could u have known ?? .)

 

[TruthOrLie]

Pops committed suicide. Grand pops committed suicide. I'm like 98.7% likely to commit suicide according to statistics.

Anyway. There's this bridge in the mountains where I used to live. Everyone would pass it on the way to the casino.

Some folks decided to jump off the bridge.

The city wanted to pay a couple million to build a fence to deter people from jumping off the bridge.

I always figured they should just close the casino.

 

[crazybear]

There are a lot of reasons people either commit suicide or contemplate the action of suicide!
Don't judge other people until you walk a mile in their moccasins!

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

All I know is that I want to live for at least 500 years. so much to see, so little time.

 

[Jaymer]

Personally the topic makes me think about considering the many reasons people kill themselves and understand mentalities versus demoralizing lives that indefinitely have value.

 

[CARE giver]

I really don't understand suicide. How low could your emotional state be that you would rather kill yourself than live.

For all we know this is all we have. But I highly doubt that.

 

[shroomyshroom]

I dont really like to talk about this having lost a few of my very closest friends at a very young age to OD and to suicide.... but you cant really judge someone for their actions until you have walked a mile in their shoes... my best mate Twigzy who committed suicide via an over dose really opened my eyes to the world that day... I use live in a world where nothing bad ever happens, sheltered from everything and everyone. he wrote me a note explaining why he wanted to leave this place and why he had to do what he did... I still dont understand why he couldn't have just come to me or anyone else and tell us he was feeling so down and neglected by everyone...

he ended the note with

"We do what we do because we are what we are"

this quote has more meaning to me than anyone will ever know...

RIP Twigzy I miss you cuzy

 

[mosstrooper]

Pops committed suicide. Grand pops committed suicide. I'm like 98.7% likely to commit suicide according to statistics.

My Best mate is the same, both his dad and granddad topped themselves, he has type 1 diabetes, chronic depression (as opposed to accute) and doesnt look after himself properly, Of his brothers, one is an alcaholic who beats his wife, the other is a heroin addicted burglar who has brought loads of trouble on his whole family for years.

He comes round most evenings and i cook him his tea, and we have a bong and a blether.

Some folks dont have it easy, weed will always help if you are a self aware person.

Peace, stay positive.

 

[JJScorpio]

Have any of you people that say someone that commits suicide is a pussy actually spoken with someone that suffers from real depression? I'm not talking about someone who's girl broke up with them, but someone who lives in such dark despair that every day is a battle. Someone who's thoughts and feelings are nothing but pain. Someone who has gone to doctor after doctor and had medicine crammed down their throat and nothing helps..... Years upon years of this suffering with no end to it and nothing that helps. Believe it or not, there are many people in this world that suffer from this. No cure. No treatment that will help.

And what about the person that suffers terminal cancer that has begun to suffer with no chance of getting better. Only more days of pain that will get worse until they no longer comprehend and are in a morphine induced come until their organs shut down. Do these people not have the same rights that we give a dog? Or do they have to lay around suffering for months while hospitals, doctors and others drain them of their life savings so they can't even leave the loved ones anything.

Who the fuck are some of you people to judge who's a coward and who's not? Do you know how much mental or physical pain someone has to be in to put a gun in their mouth and to pull the trigger? I don't think very many people say, "hey, I think I'll be selfish and kill myself so my family will suffer".

I'm glad some of you are so perfect that you can decide who should suffer and for what reason. I've watched family members suffer for months not knowing who they were. And if I could have I would have done anything they asked me to do. Including helping them end the suffering. And I've seen people that suffer from real depression. The everyday crying and despair they fought for years. Until they didn't want to fight anymore. It's their choice. It's their decision. It's not ours to judge them and call them names. We can only help them as best we can and be there for them. But if someone is truly suffering and they no longer want to suffer, who are we to make that call for them?

 

[In~Plain~Site]

Stick your opinion where the sun don't shine

Stick your opinion where the sun don't shine

Lots of judgemental fucks on both sides of this one.


Here's a thought:

Mind your own business, people have their own reasons for checking out or pushing forward, and neither of them involve you.

 

[shroomyshroom]

Have any of you people that say someone that commits suicide is a pussy actually spoken with someone that suffers from real depression? I'm not talking about someone who's girl broke up with them, but someone who lives in such dark despair that every day is a battle. Someone who's thoughts and feelings are nothing but pain. Someone who has gone to doctor after doctor and had medicine crammed down their throat and nothing helps..... Years upon years of this suffering with no end to it and nothing that helps. Believe it or not, there are many people in this world that suffer from this. No cure. No treatment that will help.

And what about the person that suffers terminal cancer that has begun to suffer with no chance of getting better. Only more days of pain that will get worse until they no longer comprehend and are in a morphine induced come until their organs shut down. Do these people not have the same rights that we give a dog? Or do they have to lay around suffering for months while hospitals, doctors and others drain them of their life savings so they can't even leave the loved ones anything.

Who the fuck are some of you people to judge who's a coward and who's not? Do you know how much mental or physical pain someone has to be in to put a gun in their mouth and to pull the trigger? I don't think very many people say, "hey, I think I'll be selfish and kill myself so my family will suffer".

I'm glad some of you are so perfect that you can decide who should suffer and for what reason. I've watched family members suffer for months not knowing who they were. And if I could have I would have done anything they asked me to do. Including helping them end the suffering. And I've seen people that suffer from real depression. The everyday crying and despair they fought for years. Until they didn't want to fight anymore. It's their choice. It's their decision. It's not ours to judge them and call them names. We can only help them as best we can and be there for them. But if someone is truly suffering and they no longer want to suffer, who are we to make that call for them?

Finally someone who knows what they are talking about....

 

[redspaghetti]

Each victim of suicide gives his act a personal stamp which expresses his temperament, the special conditions in which he is involved, and which, consequently, cannot be explained by the social and general causes of the phenomenon.

 

[Strainhunter]

Someone committing suicide acting a selfish and egoistic way - maybe, depending on ones individual situation.

But globalizing such act as "pussy" and "cowardly"...man please think over those statements, those are the wrong words chosen when it comes to people killing themselves.
Not cool.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

I hope that when/if I become terminally ill/ have a stroke....that I am not so incapacitated, and that I have the choice and the ability to be able to check-out under my own steam...

My Grandad didn't....he had a stroke in his early 70's and a fine, strong man was reduced to a part paralyzed gimp in a wheel-chair who could only say a handful of words because the stroke had affected his brain so......and there he sat for 10 years cared for by his wife till she couldn't cope any more and then my Mother....With loosing his mind he lost his dignity and independence and as his body atrophied, I could see the pain and anger in his face....and the tears would roll down it as he suffered greatly for the last 10 years of his life......there was no joy.

 

[Clackamas Coot]

Sometimes, unfortunately, people that we love and treasure make decisions that are beyond our basic human understanding.

Just a thought from Joan Baez..........

So if you pass the parents weeping
of the young ones who have died,
take them to your warmth and keeping
for blessed are the tears they cried
and many were the years they tried.
Take them to that valley wide
and let their souls be pacified.

Just a thought.

CC

 

[Madrus Rose]

Someone committing suicide acting a selfish and egoistic way - maybe, depending on ones individual situation.

But globalizing such act as "pussy" and "cowardly"...man please think over those statements, those are the wrong words chosen when it comes to people killing themselves.
Not cool.

To think of the economic hopelessness one can still find all around the globe, people commit suicide becausethey feel there is no other solution, no hope left. A lack of purpose in life also adds to a feeling of hopelessness and life is not so easy & always been very tough & competitive . But some people should put themselves into anothers shoes who live in Russia, Belarus, Lithuania, Ukrane ...and around asia & India, etc .

In these countries economics has to play a major part as these countries are depressed & have not stablized ..this leads to statistics of a 6 to 1 ratio of men to women taking their own lives proving just how dire economic hoplessness translates into this .

According to a report by Tata Institute of Social Sciences in Mumbai, 150,000 debt-ridden farmers in India have committed suicide in the past decade. A person dies by their own hand every 15secs in the world....can't say they're just all "pussys". Life is hard , very hard for these peoples ...they rarely get any chance to just "chill" out or they starve . By virtue of their poverty have almost nothing to hope or live for and that gets old very quick . (try living in the subways of new york for 4 seasons)

(Japan which has half the population of the US has about the same amount of suicides @ nearly 100 per day . )