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[Cannavore]

Why do Cubans leave Cuba? And tell me how well Venezuela is doing going round and round circling the drain. Don't see Americas Progressives flocking over there like they do to Ukraine.

Why isn't Biden in Venezuela fist bumping for more oil? The refineries in Houston are all set up for the heavy Veny stuff. Just a short trip away.

What socialism? Private sector still dominates Venezuelan economy despite Chavez crusade​

What socialism? Private sector still dominates Venezuelan economy despite Chavez crusade

It's President Hugo Chavez's biggest economic battle cry, and it's getting louder as Venezuela suffers a recession: "We're going to bury Venezuelan capitalism."

www.foxnews.com

"the private sector still controls two-thirds of Venezuela's economy — the same as when Chavez was elected in 1998, according to estimates by the Central Bank."


In other words, Venezuela has about the same levels of private (capitalist) ownership of the economy as the US does. They are not socialist or communist. Neither are we.

 

[Montuno]

Why do Cubans leave Cuba? And tell me how well Venezuela is doing going round and round circling the drain. Don't see Americas Progressives flocking over there like they do to Ukraine.

Why isn't Biden in Venezuela fist bumping for more oil? The refineries in Houston are all set up for the heavy Veny stuff. Just a short trip away.

Why do Haitians emigrate from Haiti? Why do Guatemalans, Hondurans, Salvadorans and Mexicans emigrate from their homelands? Why do Moroccans or Equatoguineans emigrate from theirs? And the Filipinos? And the Dominicans?

 

[entropical]

yes. yes there absolutely is. they aren't even close to the same thing. in fact they diametrically oppose each other.

Two sides of the same coin..

 

[Montuno]

Don't tell me you're German... Great in that case: I'll read very carefully your exposition on the gigantic similarity between the economy of the Third Reich with that of the later GDR, versus the gigantic difference between the economy of the Third Reich with that of the subsequent GFR..

Look, I lived my childhood in the only one of the "satellite regimes" of Nazism that survived the Allied victory in Europe, and that was pure and simple wild free market capitalism: you could buy (who could, of course) what you wanted national or foreigner; cars, appliances, luxury beach mansions, yachts... including new borns kidnapped babes from leftist mothers.
And foreigners (from capitalist countries also only, of course) had free access to this market: look if it is true, that the US Government was able to buy the health of an entire Almerian town people for several generations at a bargain price, when they collided in flight an armed strategic bomber and a tanker plane, maneuvering over their sky (do you know any non-capitalist country where the US has permission to do such things) and four thermonuclear bombs were dropped on them...

 

[Cannavore]

Two sides of the same coin..

no they aren't lol. bankers, "globalists", and capitalists will quite literally side with violent murderous fascists (as we currently see in the US and around the globe) to protect their capital than to concede an inch to leftists/anti capitalists demands

 

[Cannavore]

 

[Cannavore]

What socialism? Private sector still dominates Venezuelan economy despite Chavez crusade​

What socialism? Private sector still dominates Venezuelan economy despite Chavez crusade

It's President Hugo Chavez's biggest economic battle cry, and it's getting louder as Venezuela suffers a recession: "We're going to bury Venezuelan capitalism."

www.foxnews.com

"the private sector still controls two-thirds of Venezuela's economy — the same as when Chavez was elected in 1998, according to estimates by the Central Bank."


In other words, Venezuela has about the same levels of private (capitalist) ownership of the economy as the US does. They are not socialist or communist. Neither are we.

no one's allowed to bring up Venezuela in this thread again until they respond to this FOX NEWS article that says the Venezuelan economy is still privately owned lol

 

[entropical]

Right-wing and left-wing, two wings of the same bird

“The struggle against international finance capital and loan capital has become one of the most important points in the program on which the German nation has based its fight for economic freedom and independence.”

 

[Cannavore]

yes you're right when you're speaking within the framework of capitalist ideology. ie - democrats are the left wing of capitalism, republicans are the right wing...... leftism is an entire different subject. we hate both democrats and republicans lol as leftists are anti capitalist outside and to the left of the democrats and the capitalist framework.

the fact that the first google search result for the quote you posted is bibliotecapleyades tells me all i need to know lol. i had a friend who bought into the 2012 shit and would always send me bibliotecapleyades links about zones on the earth that would be safe during 2012, grey alien ufo shit, and law of one channeling bullshit.

seriously though watch the videos i've posted in this thread. it might expand your knowledge base.

especially this video. it starts getting good around 15min in;

 

[entropical]

no they aren't lol. bankers, "globalists", and capitalists will quite literally side with violent murderous fascists (as we currently see in the US and around the globe) to protect their capital than to concede an inch to leftists/anti capitalists demands

Who funds your poxy squad is no secret..

 

[Cannavore]

capitalists making money off both sides of wars?!?!?!? whoa never heard that before.


if we enacted communism tomorrow, all these people you think are behind communism would be out of power lol. there is no way in hell these people who owe their entire lives to the exploitation of the masses under a capitalist economy would one day feel remorse and try to fix their wrongs lol. that's literally never happened in any economy ever. those who have power, will continue to seek and maintain their power and not give up a fucking crumb.

 

[entropical]

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the fact that the first google search result for the quote you posted is bibliotecapleyades tells me all i need to know lol. i had a friend who bought into the 2012 shit and would always send me bibliotecapleyades links about zones on the earth that would be safe during 2012, grey alien ufo shit, and law of one channeling bullshit.

Never heared of it

 

[entropical]

capitalists making money off both sides of wars?!?!?!? whoa never heard that before.


if we enacted communism tomorrow, all these people you think are behind communism would be out of power lol. there is no way in hell these people who owe their entire lives to the exploitation of the masses under a capitalist economy would one day feel remorse and try to fix their wrongs lol. that's literally never happened in any economy ever. those who have power, will continue to seek and maintain their power and not give up a fucking crumb.

The old ”real communism has never been tried” lol

 

[Cannavore]

Never heared of it

it's the only search result that shows up as a direct quote. where's it from? who said it? i've never seen it before myself.

 

[Cannavore]

The old ”real communism has never been tried” lol

not even. all i'm saying is these people who you think are hidden commies would straight up lose their power if socialism or communism replaced our capitalist economy. why would workers of a company democratically agree to give a ceo who hasn't done manual labour in 50 years millions of dollars, or on average collect 350 times more compensation than their own worker salary? that type of shit would not fly any more. nor would a room of 10 people deciding to move the jobs of hundreds/thousands of US workers overseas or to Mexico. Why would workers, if they had a democratic choice, willingly give up their jobs for the unknown/to start over? the answer is they wouldn't. workers would gain power, capitalists would become a footnote.

 

[Cannavore]

there are leftist/anarchist groups in ukraine doing mutual aide and all that. where's the financial support from western govt's for them?

oh that's right, it's all gone to ukraine govt (neoliberals aka what you call globalists) & azov batallion fascists and fascist affiliates lol.

capital will always break fascist when confronted with a leftist alternative.

 

[Montuno]

Right-wing and left-wing, two wings of the same bird

“The struggle against international finance capital and loan capital has become one of the most important points in the program on which the German nation has based its fight for economic freedom and independence.”

Joderrrr...
But you are confusing autarky with not being a capitalist!!!.

And furthermore, an attempt of capitalist autarky was made to limit the presence/participation/power of foreign entities that could stop the fascist project.
It was also tried here in the first years of the fascist dictatorship: for example, the government intervened in the free foreign market, so that an American or British company had to bid much more than a Nazi German company to exploit our wolfram and uranium. Likewise, it tried to give priority to national capitalism over international capitalism, so that the national market needed as few exports as possible.

An attempt, within capitalism (because within socialism/communism it can also be attempted) of fascist governments that did not last long, and that besides was only due to circumstances of warlike tensions: if some day China declares war on the USA, you will see something similar on both sides.
You see how the EU or the UK also breaks the rules of the free foreign market in a situation of warlike tension, trying to substitute Russian products for others of other nationalities that are more expensive and difficult to distribute, if they are not self-sufficient.

 

[Three Berries]

Why do Haitians emigrate from Haiti? Why do Guatemalans, Hondurans, Salvadorans and Mexicans emigrate from their homelands? Why do Moroccans or Equatoguineans emigrate from theirs? And the Filipinos? And the Dominicans?

Good question. Why do they? Do they not like their homeland?

 

[Three Berries]

Anyone who says you can't get ahead in the USA is an idiot. And it's because of Capitalism.

Two type of people want to come to América for the most part. Those who want to succeed and those who want to suck the tit.

 

[Cannavore]

Good question. Why do they? Do they not like their homeland?

Capitalism and US imperialism has decimated South America for 100 years.