ColJam - first edition is: 1980 Colombian Gold x 1960/1970 Jamaican Lambsbread
ColJam - second edition is: (1980 Colombian Gold x 1960/1970 Jamaican Lambsbread) x 1980 Colombian Gold
Jahgreenlabel was using an early version of the 1960/1970 Jamaican Lambsbread that grows and flowers like an extreme Haze, also has hermaphrodites, wispy flowering and so on. Jahgreenlabel noted that 10% of ColJam females would have a trippy high. SamS said similar about Original Haze - 10% will be excellent, and others will be very good.............
The 1980 Colombian Gold and most all Landrace in 2019 do not have a pure ancestry and are far from stable in seed form in 2019. Today most all Colombians smoked in Colombia are "crippy" NLD / WLD hybrids.
The original - 1972 Colombian Gold came from Crippledcreek in 2015 or so. Charlie Garcia and Jahgreenlabel were the first tow growers to document grows publically. Charlie noted the "2015 original seed lot" of 1972 Colombian Gold from Crippledcreek was probably a good expression of a 1970's Colombian. I'd say perhaps similar to "original" 1970 Colombians that SamS selected for Original Haze. Original Haze is of course a multi-poly-Colombian hybrid. OH is not stable in seed form.
To think that Colombian seed names that have been around for 45 years are "pure" Colombian Gold or "pure" Punto Rojo is naive.
If you use the term extreme NLD to define Seedsman Haze or Original Haze, Crippledcreek's 1972 Colombian Gold was more extreme NLD than the 1980 Colombian Gold, but not as extreme as Original Haze or the 1960/1970 Jamaican Lambsbread. In there early generations and when Jahgreenlabel was selecting OH, JLB, and Seedsman Haze were probably P2/P3 Landrace. You'll get all the difficult grow issues of growing seeds that were recently adapted to the mountains of Colombia.
ColJam is an f4/f5, meaning that it was selected for 4 or 5 generations. ColJam has 14 week flowering pheno's and +22 week flowering pheno's. The area around Santa Marta has always had Coastal / lowland varieities and Highland Mountain varieites adapted to the high altitude regions of the Sierra de Nevada. The Coastal/ lowland may be grow for two harvests or harvested early due to monsoon rains or whatever. The Colombian Gold grown in the Sierra de Neveda mountains would be planted in the spring and harvested in December / January, only one harvest per year.
Highland Colombian Gold and Lowland Colombian Gold grow environments are very different. In general the Highland Colombian Gold will grow and smoke very similar to an extreme NLD pheno of Original Haze, tall, wispy growth, and wispy colas - 6 - 8 feet long that grow tight to the stem. Coastal Colombian Gold will have a more upright, upward reaching leaf, and a more compact growth structure, with much better, denser, and shorter flowering.
As Jahgreenlabel advertised for ColJam and 1972 CG, Highland Colombian, (for most of use will flower for) 16 - 24 weeks.
If you select extreme NLD pheno of Colombian Gold, Original Haze or JLB you are more likely to find a 1970's "trippy" Colombian high.
Once the narco-terrorist began to dominate the Colombian Marijuana grows in the mid-1970's. The quality of the high went downhill, due to the addition of indica genetics, and harvest per year.
Plus with seeds the name doesn't mean much. If you are looking for "The Haze high" you should select plants that look like Haze, which of course originated from 1970's Highland Colombians - NLD long flowering.
If you planted 50 seeds of Cannabiogen - 2008 Punto Rojo, most would resemble 1970 Colombians, but some would resemble "Colombian crippy" . If you cross "Colombian Crippy" x "Colombian Crippy" plant selections from 2008 Punto Rojo of ColJam, whatever, you'll get " Colombian Crippy" progeny with flowering duration less than the advertised 16 weeks.
If you select parents from Punto Rojo or ColJam that both flower for +20 weeks you'll get progeny that flower for +20 weeks and have a high similar to a +20 week Haze. It will take six or so generations to remove the recessive plants that do not resemble either of the parents, and show up in less than 5% of the population.
In the selection of ColJam and Mangobiche there was open pollination and or selection that included Lowland Colombian varieties that are shorter flowering with better flowering structure and also Highland NLD long flowering. Selecting NLD - Long flowering Landrace Colombian for better flowering and better resin production is not necessarily a bad thing, but too much selection for improved flowering, disease resistance, resin coverage and so on and you'll get a high that is similar to say Nevil's Haze - NLD pheno.
ColJam - second edition is: (1980 Colombian Gold x 1960/1970 Jamaican Lambsbread) x 1980 Colombian Gold
Jahgreenlabel was using an early version of the 1960/1970 Jamaican Lambsbread that grows and flowers like an extreme Haze, also has hermaphrodites, wispy flowering and so on. Jahgreenlabel noted that 10% of ColJam females would have a trippy high. SamS said similar about Original Haze - 10% will be excellent, and others will be very good.............
The 1980 Colombian Gold and most all Landrace in 2019 do not have a pure ancestry and are far from stable in seed form in 2019. Today most all Colombians smoked in Colombia are "crippy" NLD / WLD hybrids.
The original - 1972 Colombian Gold came from Crippledcreek in 2015 or so. Charlie Garcia and Jahgreenlabel were the first tow growers to document grows publically. Charlie noted the "2015 original seed lot" of 1972 Colombian Gold from Crippledcreek was probably a good expression of a 1970's Colombian. I'd say perhaps similar to "original" 1970 Colombians that SamS selected for Original Haze. Original Haze is of course a multi-poly-Colombian hybrid. OH is not stable in seed form.
To think that Colombian seed names that have been around for 45 years are "pure" Colombian Gold or "pure" Punto Rojo is naive.
If you use the term extreme NLD to define Seedsman Haze or Original Haze, Crippledcreek's 1972 Colombian Gold was more extreme NLD than the 1980 Colombian Gold, but not as extreme as Original Haze or the 1960/1970 Jamaican Lambsbread. In there early generations and when Jahgreenlabel was selecting OH, JLB, and Seedsman Haze were probably P2/P3 Landrace. You'll get all the difficult grow issues of growing seeds that were recently adapted to the mountains of Colombia.
ColJam is an f4/f5, meaning that it was selected for 4 or 5 generations. ColJam has 14 week flowering pheno's and +22 week flowering pheno's. The area around Santa Marta has always had Coastal / lowland varieities and Highland Mountain varieites adapted to the high altitude regions of the Sierra de Nevada. The Coastal/ lowland may be grow for two harvests or harvested early due to monsoon rains or whatever. The Colombian Gold grown in the Sierra de Neveda mountains would be planted in the spring and harvested in December / January, only one harvest per year.
Highland Colombian Gold and Lowland Colombian Gold grow environments are very different. In general the Highland Colombian Gold will grow and smoke very similar to an extreme NLD pheno of Original Haze, tall, wispy growth, and wispy colas - 6 - 8 feet long that grow tight to the stem. Coastal Colombian Gold will have a more upright, upward reaching leaf, and a more compact growth structure, with much better, denser, and shorter flowering.
As Jahgreenlabel advertised for ColJam and 1972 CG, Highland Colombian, (for most of use will flower for) 16 - 24 weeks.
If you select extreme NLD pheno of Colombian Gold, Original Haze or JLB you are more likely to find a 1970's "trippy" Colombian high.
Once the narco-terrorist began to dominate the Colombian Marijuana grows in the mid-1970's. The quality of the high went downhill, due to the addition of indica genetics, and harvest per year.
Plus with seeds the name doesn't mean much. If you are looking for "The Haze high" you should select plants that look like Haze, which of course originated from 1970's Highland Colombians - NLD long flowering.
If you planted 50 seeds of Cannabiogen - 2008 Punto Rojo, most would resemble 1970 Colombians, but some would resemble "Colombian crippy" . If you cross "Colombian Crippy" x "Colombian Crippy" plant selections from 2008 Punto Rojo of ColJam, whatever, you'll get " Colombian Crippy" progeny with flowering duration less than the advertised 16 weeks.
If you select parents from Punto Rojo or ColJam that both flower for +20 weeks you'll get progeny that flower for +20 weeks and have a high similar to a +20 week Haze. It will take six or so generations to remove the recessive plants that do not resemble either of the parents, and show up in less than 5% of the population.
In the selection of ColJam and Mangobiche there was open pollination and or selection that included Lowland Colombian varieties that are shorter flowering with better flowering structure and also Highland NLD long flowering. Selecting NLD - Long flowering Landrace Colombian for better flowering and better resin production is not necessarily a bad thing, but too much selection for improved flowering, disease resistance, resin coverage and so on and you'll get a high that is similar to say Nevil's Haze - NLD pheno.
