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Colorado mom visited by child protective services for treating son’s cancer with medi

RetroGrow

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The child hadn't eaten for 25 days.....should we let him starve, or force feed him? And what are the odds that the child survives leukemia with chemotherapy? And whose responsibility is it to take care of the child and make these judgements, the mother, or the state?
"As soon as we started taking the oil, his platelets have been a regular healthy person's level and they can't understand why," Riddle told CNN. Presumably, "they" were the doctors.
 
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That Ush

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I remember something I saw some child was having 300 seizures a week? Starting giving him hash oil in his food and it was cut down to 1.

Sure maybe there isn't "actual proof" that forms of marijuana can "cure" cancer, but from many people I've spoken to and read + seen about it definitely "HELPS"

No reason this person should go to jail / civil chargers.
Chemo does help i guess , but people hate it - and most of the times its the PATIENTS themselves who really hate it.
Growing up with a cousin who has cancer, he def prefers oil then a shot in his leg everynight.

Heated discussion and topic for sure.
Lets just hope the kid recovers 100%!
 

Eighths-n-Aces

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nobody gets to make their own mind up when it comes to medical decisions!

my wife's grandmother (99 years old and lucid most of the time) fell and broke a hip, they said she would never survive surgery so they didn't bother trying. what they did "do" for her was withhold fluids and let her go that way. they call it dehydration and if you did that shit to a dog they would have you in court for cruelty to animals where they would say you made a poor dog die of thirst instead of getting it a shot

we have very few "rights"
 

RetroGrow

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I am Yes I would take that kid forcibly away from the parent in a heartbeat. With a court order at first and a bullet, secondly, were it to come to that. And I would do either without the slightest hesitation.


So the mother deserves a bullet?
And you wouldn't hesitate to do it?
Who made you judge, jury, and executioner?
Sounds like you are the loon here.
 

HUGE

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nobody gets to make their own mind up when it comes to medical decisions!

my wife's grandmother (99 years old and lucid most of the time) fell and broke a hip, they said she would never survive surgery so they didn't bother trying. what they did "do" for her was withhold fluids and let her go that way. they call it dehydration and if you did that shit to a dog they would have you in court for cruelty to animals where they would say you made a poor dog die of thirst instead of getting it a shot

we have very few "rights"

Its great right. The spent years and millions trying to stop dr kivorkian. But last week in belgium a shemale was euthanized because she didn't like the look of her new penis. I watched my grandpa die in the hospiyal. I was tjere every day. There was 1 good nurse and 1 good doctor. Its a fucking disaster in there. They pump him up witj iv and when he got up too pee they freaked out and shot him up witj zanex and tied him to the bed. That's acceptible medical treatment of a 94 year old man with pneumonia. While his heart was crashing they did offer to pump him full of morphine to make it go faster.
 

supermanlives

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when we loose the freedom of choice we have truly lost it all. I think medical shit should be decieded by the family not some government asshole. their motives are unclear at best if not totally corrupt. you go get that chemo an shit an keep the system rollin. I myself aint so bite me.
 

HUGE

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Whatvabout if I babtize my baby with authentic anointing oil. Calamus and all. Should cps take my kids?
 

RetroGrow

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nobody gets to make their own mind up when it comes to medical decisions!

my wife's grandmother (99 years old and lucid most of the time) fell and broke a hip, they said she would never survive surgery so they didn't bother trying. what they did "do" for her was withhold fluids and let her go that way. they call it dehydration and if you did that shit to a dog they would have you in court for cruelty to animals where they would say you made a poor dog die of thirst instead of getting it a shot

we have very few "rights"

Same situation with my mom, only they let her die of Sepsis, a horrific way to go...slow suffocation. When I arrived @ the hospital, I asked the doctor what was the problem. He told me "sepsis". I asked what antibiotic they were using. He named some antibiotic which wasn't Vancomycin, which is the cure for sepsis. I went ballistic, and the doctor asked me "would you like us to bring her to intensive care?". I asked, "is that going to save her?" He said "No, but maybe she'll be more comfortable". Comfortable suffocating? The bastard just wanted to jack the bill up. I wanted to cap him. I still have nightmares about her last hours.
 

Hydrosun

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I read it just fine. It is not a mother's judgment concerning how her child is "doing under chemotherapy" which is an opinion I would take much account of - or place much stock in. For that, I'll listen to the oncologists.

Chemotherapy is, by design, a poison. It is designed to kill a specific part of your body without killing the rest of it faster than the body can keep up with. OF COURSE it makes you sick, weak and unable to eat, among other things. These are not accidental side-effects, they are unavoidable consequences of the toxins. It's the best we've got.

And no, I do not trust the mother's judgment based upon what I have read in this already biased article.

Ideology has no place in medical treatment. That applies whether she is a Jehovah's Witness denying a transfusion, or some New Age Stoner or Naturopath or Homeopath looking to hemp for some miracle cure.

Jack Herrer may have been a fine cannabis activist - but when it came to this issue? He was a stark raving loon.

Did you or do you make money by working for the government as a social worker?

Just so you know neither YOU or your vaunted BIG GOVERNMENT or YOUR CHOSEN doctors have ANY MORAL authority to kidnap children and insert YOUR judgement above that of the child's parent.

There is a fuck ton of evidence that western medicine KILLS a great percentage of patients who are tortured by chemo and radiation.

What I do with my body is my business, whether or not I allow doctors to torture my child in the name of your medical science is also my business.

You would have made a great Nazi, Dr. Mengele promoted medical science by torturing children and adults; it took people like you to allow that to happen.

Do you know who Rosemary Kennedy is? She received some world class medical torture from the system you advocate.

:joint:
 

nattynattygurrl

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Ahh yes, conventional medicine’s proven cures: chemo and radiation!

I know what I would do if I found out I had cancer tomorrow…and it wouldn’t be to attack the rest of my body with poison, while enriching people who do not care whether I live or die, only that I am subjected to as much of their “conventional treatments” as possible before I die.

A woman Dx’d with breast cancer is worth an average of $300,000. That’s a lot of money to fight over.
What if the answer could be grown in your basement, for practically nothing? Who would profit then??


Chemo and radiation have no better record of success than Cannabis has yet been allowed to achieve…In many cases, you'd probably have better odds doing nothing, than following “traditional” protocol.
I could list links for days, but let’s be honest, you clearly aren’t going to read them.


Dennis Hill must be a nut too!
 

thefifth

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The corporate medical establishment will stop at nothing to delegitimize a natural cure that is saving children's lives. They would sooner chemically torture children than admit the truth that is unfolding before their eyes. Each additional cancer patient just means more money in their wallet and they can't have anyone going and getting cured, someone has to pay for their mansions.
 

TheCleanGame

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Talk to oncology nurses that are recently retired...

Talk to oncologists that are recently retired...

The statistics for surviving cancer through oncology hasn't changed much at all in their entire careers. They watched oncology kill people all day for decades. These people are not happy with the medical field they took part in.

My family member gets cancer? You can bet there won't be a single oncologist consulted on the subject. Period. I don't care WHO gets it. The oncology profession can globally suck it, as far as I'm concerned.

Keep it Clean! :D
 

nattynattygurrl

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…The statistics for surviving cancer through oncology hasn't changed much at all in their entire careers.
They watched oncology kill people all day for decades…

My family member gets cancer? You can bet there won't be a single oncologist consulted on the subject. Period. I don't care WHO gets it. The oncology profession can globally suck it, as far as I'm concerned…


This is exactly how I feel.
Radiation and/or Chemo scare me far more than the cancer.

I’ve struggled to convince the people in my family (and friends) over the past 15 years to consider cannabis, starting with my three Aunts w/ MS in the mid 90’s. There are a lot of sick people in my family, and nearly all of them have had something cannabis is well known to treat, (from MS, Alzheimer’s, battles with breast and other cancers, to give a few examples.) I’m constantly sending videos and articles hoping someone reads them. So far, not one of the 10+ people in my family, who have had at least one illness/disease that might have been eased/treated with cannabis, have seemed to take cannabis seriously. Even when told there is nothing more they can do, they either haven’t even considered or have been too afraid b/c of harsh laws, (many of them live/d in very anti-cannabis states.) It’s been a frustrating experience to say the least.

Now it’s my Mom
She was very anti-cannabis until 5 years ago, when she finally began to acknowledge how drastically cannabis improved my quality of life. My Dad believes she is just trying to appease me by seeming receptive…He is less than convinced that she’s open to try cannabis oil and forgo, or at least put off, radiation/chemo until she does a full 3 month treatment of cannabis oil, rather than paying them to poison her! She went into to the operating room 15 minutes ago as a matter of fact, and I am so anxious! I just hope she is reading the articles I’ve sent, (she's said she has read each one), and is as open as she sounds when I talk to her.


Thanks to all of you for allowing me to vent! I know my posts haven’t been much fun to read recently, but I am so thankful to have a place to voice some of my frustrations and concerns.
:thank you:
 

TheCleanGame

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Times are changing for sure.

My lifelong religious mother who's given me crap about using cannabis for over 30 years.... just donated an R/O machine to my grow equipment.

Keep pushing people... keep pushing!

Keep it Clean! :D
 

nattynattygurrl

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Wow, that is pretty cool TCG! Congrats! :)

We’re gaining momentum and support everyday!!
It won’t be long guys!!
 

OGEvilgenius

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Hey Natty - there's a TED talk about a woman who noticed that the mortality rate in her small Montana town was incredibly high and that respiratory disease was off the charts. Turns out it was linked to vermiculite production (aka; Asbestos). Yet - all the town people hated her for pointing it out. Why? It's a good question. People are very protective of their world views, especially things which completely shatter them.

Cannabis is world view shattering for many people if they look at the facts objectively. It was the subject that made me start to question everything I was ever told.
 

Ur Humbl Nr8tor

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Another article for consumption...

http://www.sfgate.com/news/us/article/Ohio-Amish-girl-cuts-off-contact-amid-chemo-case-5016576.php

I hope those herbal treatments include well made RSO.

This is a tough subject to discuss, but I believe cannabis oil can do no harm (if made well). In fact, I believe it should be an accompaniment to anyone suffering through a radiation/chemo regimen. Chemo therapies are diverse, but also wide ranging in their effects. Doctors stagger chemo therapies to try and broaden their coverage. RSO is just another covered base IMO. Also, it is likely to improve your well being by influencing positive appetite as well minimizing the need for addictive pain medicine.

My cousin has just been diagnosed with stage II breast cancer of the three strike cell mutation variety. Do you think we are discussing a strategy including chemo and RSO...you betcha.
 

TheCleanGame

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I'll never understand chemo...

Why on earth would you want to permanently damage your immune system? :nono: Unless it's some super fast, 2 weeks to live kinda cancer... I would never consider chemo as a first option.

Alkaline diet, Gerson Diet modified to your blood type to max out the cancer superbeneficial foods, removal of all artificial and heavily processed foods, sugars and oils.

That and massive amounts of high CBD, moderate THC cannabis oil or concentrates.

That doesn't show promising results in the first couple weeks... ok, maybe we'll talk chemo. Still, damaging the immune system is just stupid in my uneducated opinion.

Keep it Clean! :D

(Edit: I'm not calling anyone stupid. I'm just stating my uneducated opinion on the matter. I'm also not a doctor but I've seen amazing results from the advice I gave.)
 
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