Colorado House Bill 1284

[Mile Hi Dave]

Well Warren, unlike the mega-dispensaries, which are really represented by your carpet-bagging co-tenant, we growers have no one representing us before the legislature. With our "subculture" being what it is, I don't know if enough of us are willing to come outta the woodwork to get together to get someone to represent our interests. Then it would probably cost us a pretty penny to get someone (a lobbyist or attorney) to represent us. Seems like the glory hound, Rob Correy, has decided our interest are not high profile enough for him. Then again, I wouldn't want the rapist representing me either. How did he keep his license to practice, especially after the gun incident in DC?

 

[MrDank]

So, if I live in Denver, and I do not choose to own a dispensary, then I either need to move to Aurora or I need to tell the rest of my patients to do the following:

find another caregiver who:
gives them free meds every month, has a large mother selection for them to find exactly what strain fits their specific medicinal requirements, sell them additional meds at wholesale prices on top of their free meds, and produce consistent top notch medicine all at the same time.

if every caregiver met that criteria, I wouldn't have a line out the door and around the block waiting to sign me up

 

[Mile Hi Dave]

This is a State Law, not just a Denver thing. If this Bill passes as written, you will be limited to 5 patients, unless you want to become a dispensary and pay the $5K, pass their "morals" test and have to have a place they can come to anytime and inspect. This would shut almost all caregivers down. Now, you could move to a city that has banned dispensaries and there you could have upto 16 patients.

To answer the person's question about the part that says communities wouldn't be able to ban dispensaries. This is only true for cities that are not considered "Home Rule"....like Denver.

 

[DaGreenMachine]

Here's the wacky thing about this bill. It doesn't take effect until July 2011. So the game doesn't change for a while...I guess

One thing I don't understand about it is this language:

AS OF JULY 1, 2011, A
5 PERSON SHALL NOT OPEN A MEDICAL MARIJUANA CENTER UNTIL THE
6 CENTER HAS BEEN LICENSED PURSUANT TO THIS ARTICLE.
7 (b) AS OF JULY 1, 2010, A PERSON WHO OPERATES A MEDICAL
8 MARIJUANA CENTER MAY OPERATE THAT CENTER UNTIL JULY 1, 2011.
9 AFTER JULY 1, 2011, THE PERSON MAY CONTINUE OPERATING THE
10 MEDICAL MARIJUANA CENTER ONLY IF THE CENTER IS LICENSED PURSUANT
11 TO THIS ARTICLE.

Is this effectively putting a year long moratorium on new dispensaries? Or does that mean that any dispensary opened after July 1, 2010 must be in full compliance by July 1, 2011?

 

[Mile Hi Dave]

Any dispensary that opens, must now go thru a pain in the ass process before it can open it's doors. They have to be inspected and have paid for the license and then have to wait for approval. The ones that submitted the paperwork before March 1, were allowed to stay open while waiting to be inspected.

*****REMEMBER, THIS BILL STILL HAS SEVERAL MORE COMMITTEES IT HAS TO GO THRU BEFORE IT'S PASSED. IT JUST PASSED THRU THE ONE COMMITTEE...IT STILL HAS ALOT OF CHANGES THAT WILL BE MADE BEFORE IT GOES IN EFFECT JULY 1 2011...

 

[DaGreenMachine]

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[milehighmedical]

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[P. Dondrub]

Sorry... what? 96 plants can't pay your bills? I can't even begin to imagine that.

And even if he is growing 2-4lb trees, he says its still not enough.

 

[Mile Hi Dave]

Sorry... what? 96 plants can't pay your bills? I can't even begin to imagine that.

In reality it's only 48...you can only have 3 flowering per patient. Now, I don't know his grow method (trees/scog/scrog). or how long he vegges his girls...some like short, almost fresh clones to start flowering. With all these variables...he may need alot more.

And...if they count clones, you would have to grow even less

 

[Frankie Pebbles]

 

[milehighmedical]

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[Mile Hi Dave]

1 July, 2011...no the whole bill has to get thru legislation. There are still several committees it has to pass thru. Keep watchin this post, I will let you know when the next Public hearing is. Let me know...I also have the email address for every representative...I will gladly post them here. Only if people promise to be repectful and not make everyone look bad...we don't need no BS to hurt us.

 

[Frankie Pebbles]

 

[Mile Hi Dave]

I thought this thread was about Bill 1284 not Frankie Pebbles?

lol

 

[BigTop]

So, if I live in Denver, and I do not choose to own a dispensary, then I either need to move to Aurora or I need to tell the rest of my patients to do the following:

find another caregiver who:
gives them free meds every month, has a large mother selection for them to find exactly what strain fits their specific medicinal requirements, sell them additional meds at wholesale prices on top of their free meds, and produce consistent top notch medicine all at the same time.

if every caregiver met that criteria, I wouldn't have a line out the door and around the block waiting to sign me up

This is right on the money... has been for my entire life as I can ever recall... from any side of the issue... I/you/we all wan the dank... not nearly everyone can do it... never enough... boils down to 'knowing' the dude... and again, not very many of them out there... so odds are you don't & won't... but will always want.


Private, boutique caregivers that have their shit together will always trump the dispensary nugs... genetics aside.

Personally, every time I've tried to go commercial, it came out more like commercial than I would've preferred... you just have to cut corners in order to stay on top of the huge counts... no pragmatic way around it w/o a ton of emps & apprentices...?


Also, let us not forget that the impending legislation necessarily cannot contradict and/or remove rights instilled by Amendment 20...

 

[j-fly]

Hopefully in 2012 marijuana will be legalized in Colorado, and we won have to worry about all this medical nonsense.

 

[Mile Hi Dave]

This is right on the money... has been for my entire life as I can ever recall... from any side of the issue... I/you/we all wan the dank... not nearly everyone can do it... never enough... boils down to 'knowing' the dude... and again, not very many of them out there... so odds are you don't & won't... but will always want.


Private, boutique caregivers that have their shit together will always trump the dispensary nugs... genetics aside.

Personally, every time I've tried to go commercial, it came out more like commercial than I would've preferred... you just have to cut corners in order to stay on top of the huge counts... no pragmatic way around it w/o a ton of emps & apprentices...?


Also, let us not forget that the impending legislation necessarily cannot contradict and/or remove rights instilled by Amendment 20...

WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is a State Law...and if it passes as written, small growers will be going back underground. Dispensaries will be responsible for growing 70% of their total ptoduct and they can only buy from other dispensaries!! Co-ops are strictly forbidden...so, if you are a small grower, you will be forced to "partner" with a dispensary, in all legal aspects of a "partnership"!! They are calling it "vertical integration"...SB1284 is not good for the growers....and not good for the dispensaries not involved with the carpetbagging Matt Brown. In other words...thos that are part of the Cali invasion!!! No other business has requirement like this...imagine, if you will, the state tells Budweiser, it has to "buy" a piece of every bar and liquor store it sells to. Most of the smaller dispensaries buy 50-75% of their product from vendors, and they don't care...as long as they can stay open! Imagine the garbage that they will be selling! They are all happy because Matt Brown has them convinced that them being legal is what it's all about...truth is...without us...they go down. The dispensaries that are small that are relying on Matt Brown, better realize that he is not fighting for your interests...he's fighting for the Cali "immigrants" that have screwed their state up! Colorado is their new "GoldRush"!!!

Mr. Dank...for us...it's back in our holes if it passes

 

[dc2bar]

Quick question.

I've looked through the bill, read it over several times, and am wondering how this will impact my grow.

I don't sell my crop, not to dispensaries, not even my patients. It's me and 3 of my friends who grow 25 lollipops to get by. We smoke every friggin nug.

As I read it, i'm still OK to grow at home? 4 patients.

 

[milehighmedical]

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[Mile Hi Dave]

Quick question.

I've looked through the bill, read it over several times, and am wondering how this will impact my grow.

I don't sell my crop, not to dispensaries, not even my patients. It's me and 3 of my friends who grow 25 lollipops to get by. We smoke every friggin nug.

As I read it, i'm still OK to grow at home? 4 patients.

You can have up to 5 --- you can still only have 3 per patient flowering at any given time...