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Colombian Landrace from Cali

bigherb

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charlie garcia

thx brotha
i appreciate the info

younger people must know columbian lines have had so much influence in todays best hybrids like Skunk or Haze

im young am im not into the in thing
i dont like things becaz of their popualrity only if it sparks my interest

i neva considered growin any sk1 nothin really until mns sk/hz mainly becaz of the heavy s.american influence which parents should be related in both lines .i believe botafumeiro and incense traits r contributed by our s.american strains .soo i was hopin to find somthin wit an incense type smoke

i got lucky 2 seeds 2 females one which was a sweet incense type of smoke but leaves a church smell wen burnt ,aside from nyc hazes ime nevilles is the closest representation of any strain wit frankincense taste/aromas you must experience nevilles once in your life

i wish you could recall your experience wit nl5haze i understand the haze A male is lumbo dom n believed to contribute the spicy incense traits

being a nl5 hybrid again wit its poularity i neva thought of growin her until i understood that this wat mainy contributed to the traits i soo highly desire also this is n older cross made from neville interesting again ,now i think of the first hybrid of nl1/hz from 88 which is not reported on her traits .


som info on a select nl5/haze


Originally Posted by Shantibaba
Doc Kevorkian was basically a particular NL5 x Haze one of the original sisters in the hood

shanti
At some stage we came out with Dr Kevorkian...a strain that was in between SSH and NH genetically

Originally Posted by kashgari
Damn...DocKevorkian was from you guys?!
I used to smoke a lot of that stuff, in the late 90's, at Greenhouse Effect coffee-shop: it was our last resort when there was no Kali Mist in town, as it was very similar in terms of taste and effect.
You and Nev will never cease to amaze me.
Cheers.

can you say church


how bout the special stu pheno/select reported to be from 88/87 frankincense trait anyone familiar wit this ,anything to do wit doc kev???


SAMS ohaze tfd ohaze reported incense traits not common
seedmans ohaze reported incense traits
rotterdam cutt reported incense traits
sams CC both thunk n haze/sk reported incense traits

i dont understand why sams has not commmented on this trait as it apparent in his lines

im a bit jealous as som very rare pure lines float about the spanish community , i understand BOTAFUMERIO is som waT COMMON IN SPAIN/galicia im interested to kno which lineage can we trace back too the lines wit these traits

1luvbigherb
 
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charlie garcia

Hola Bigherb

Is hard to know and talk about southamerica, too vast to know well. I can only recommend to listen to the ones who worked the Hazes. Often things are very simple. All present hybrids started from landraces. Ive been told of also old Nepal and Afghanis growing decades ago in central-south Columbia, Ive read about Mexicans lines being crossed with local lines in north, etc. To tell this but have not data is just an easy talk though and so much time passed since then to know more things for sure. Take them with a grain of salt.

Not funny old lines around here, guess is a misunterstood, few ppl worked landraces and you can count them with one hand. Here is just industry in full expresion like in other places.

best
 

four seasons

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Much great info. Such wonderful pictures for the eyes have to pleasure with.
After sitting in a car for three days it is nice to have a great read to relax over.
Thanks for posting
 

Raco

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AF brought seeds from Cali last year :D

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dubi

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Thanks for share your colombian project Locoporro,

Feel free to comment what you want about cannabis plants here in our room. There are lot of good people and experienced sativas growers to join and share interesting insights.

It's great to have charlie here in the conversation, he has experience with many colombian sativas for 30 years and he's deeply working in colombian genepool lately (keep up the good work charlie! The work, selections and breeding you are doing with all the colombian landraces are going to be revolutionary for the sativa scene!).

As commented previously, it's not easy to breed with this kind of long flowering colombian landraces, it's not easy to find high quality lines since many years and there are many different qualities and lines related to similar names and zones. To select for quality and against hermie traits is far to be an easy task and could take many years to produce something with uniform high qualities and hermie free. Then produce a hybrid that can be grown indoors or in colder climates is another history.

Thanks to all the growers sharing their experiences with the marvelous colombian genepool.
 

Raco

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It's great to have charlie here in the conversation, he has experience with many colombian sativas for 30 years and he's deeply working in colombian genepool lately (keep up the good work charlie! The work, selections and breeding you are doing with all the colombian landraces are going to be revolutionary for the sativa scene!).

Can´t wait for those 2 hits take-no-prisoners colombians! :jump:
 

Locoporro

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Ola los sativas enamorados :smokeit:

I have smoked a joint colombian with my budy xpresso (and i smoke his OTH x NeP :yes: ) but i wont do the smoke report today but i can tell you that the main odor of this colombian is : Carrot / Floral / Hazelnut / Spicy/ sweet sativa smell and it becomes more pungent when you squeeze a bud ....


I tried to take the best pics of the trichomes , and it's surprising , she is trichomised as helll !!!!!!!!!

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The bud in the middle looks a little "red" NO ????
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@Abraham Lincoln: Yes 6 plants hermied except phéno 2 and I did not make P2 as i didnt have a valid male .... just some Colombian Cali X Neville's Skunk ..... and yeah i kept clones :smokeit:
Charlie Garcia said:
First thx for your courtesy and kindness. As said other times as far as you pics and info enrich us to know better and we are not stepping on anyone shoes is a pleasure to watch your thread. Compliments also, is a very nice report and beautiful pics. Hope they smoke well to you after a slow curing

Dubi said:
Feel free to comment what you want about cannabis plants here in our room. There are lot of good people and experienced sativas growers to join and share interesting insights.
Even if you feel that normal i want to thank u again to let me do that in ace section , i dont think there are a lot of others sections which fits so perfecty to my report ...

ResPect ACE guyz :respect:

A Big UP also to all greats posters here , Experienced Growers For Sure ...

As said dubi , i could not fin a better person as charlie garcia to light my way up ..... among the colombian Landraces

Thanks a lotttt KaiKI

As you said , there is a WIDE diversity of plants in colombia and it 's very difficult to say fo sure , my strain is a corintian or mangobiche or mono rojo...

But you dont even know how all the coluumbian pictures are a real delight for me , it's really helpful to see the all the differents pheno .... You gave me a lot of informations ...
younger people must know columbian lines have had so much influence in todays best hybrids like Skunk or Haze
Charlie , i think this plant could make some great hybrids , some guyz have already think to cross her to an indica then to the Jamaican Blue Mountain given to VC ... sounds great , i think ;)

+1 for the importance of colombian lines , it gives me envy to go more in those lines ...

Beautiful Plants on your pictures, Charlie , Amazing SativAttitude :yes:

I have the same feeling like you , corintians plants look more like mine .... i can even say there is a lot of similarities , the pics of the first corinto seems familiar to me and the plant of Rasjano makes me think too to the Cali colombian ... a lilttle more leafy but it looks like..

Not funny old lines around here, guess is a misunterstood, few ppl worked landraces and you can count them with one hand. Here is just industry in full expresion like in other places.
Yeah, you could listen to charlie on this point .... we have seen that the preservation of landracfes is an actual (modern) subject but there is not a lot of people ready to grow some landraces , which the half of the plants will give you hermies , and you even wont have some sensimilia due to the lack of yielding of the plant ..... there is almost nobody who is ready to make a sesion of 5 Month with hermies , just to reproduce a landrace ... with no gain

But those same people forgets that the landraces of today are hybrids of future , if they disappear ---> we will be stuck in the same genepool , i find already in some MNS hybrids like Neville skunk , there are some similarities with SSH or others hazy hybrids

SSH :NL5/Haze A x Skunk/Haze C

NS: [NL5/Haze A x Haze C] x Afghan Skunk..

The thing really surprising is there is 12 years between the creation of 2 strains .... and nothing changed !!!!!!!!!!!!!

And i have to admit that shantibaba is one the serious hybrids breeders .... i am not critising, i respect him a lot ... at least , he have the real parents

We are turning Around , Guyz, we have to get rid of those three plants which make 95% of the strains of the market : Northern Light, Haze , Skunk ...

As said by Charlie , this is an industry ....No money....not interesting ...

And there is Just one solution : growing some landraces and make your own hybrids... !!!!!!!!!!!!

@ChaosCatalunya: thx, a lot of great growers&informations here, greets to all

@Severian,LaBuenaHierba: Thanks for the comments ...


@RasJano, your plant(s) look like mine, on some pics it's amazing , thanks for posting, this is Awesome Pictures

Do u know more about the mode of growing of the plants you got the seeds from ? is it wild guerilla growing with no selection and no culling of hermies or good grow with selection ?

@OjoRojo420: pop those seeds , it's a real adventure...


@Raco: :bigeye: the cross corintian x meao thai looks awesome , i like pistils of her , really unusual .... Perfect Hybrid ...

The huge Cali plant outdoor is unbelievable .... Respect...

@Braindead&Xpresso : Merci les amis , ca fait plaisir, bon run les potos :xmasnut:

@BigHerb:Even if it is not the subject of the thread , the information about Dr Kerkovarian is really interesting , Mix between SSH and NH souds great ... especially if it have an incense taste ...

Thank Again ALL , Feel Free to comment in my thread ... :smokeit:

Merry Christmas

Joyeux Noêl

Feliz Navidad

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"El Loco Porrito :xmasnut: "
 
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ptg

Hello!



Really resinous and beautiful sativa,very well grown...it's a pity you can't reproduce her...hope you enjoy the smoke!:canabis:





Merry Christmas and thanks you for sharing!:thanks:
 

corky1968

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let me show a few variances found here as well, not all flowered finally until the end due intersexual issues but you can see how hard can be from a pic sometimes to say for sure. You can find variances of each of these lines as well and right now in Colombia. Hope it helps. Some friends I know finished some corintians not too long ago, hope they can chime in and show for better how good some corintians can yield.

Corinto
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Mangobiche
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Finishing with temps below zero. Bit over done, made it better when I forgot about them :)
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Punto Rojo
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Punto Rojo resins
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Moño Rojo from Raco (1995)
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Gold from Costa Rica from Chaman :wave:
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I really like the thin leaves on the last one.
No dutch hybrid blood in that for sure.
 
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John Public

Wonderful read my friends, soooo many nice pics of outdoor and indoor sativas

K+++ to all :tiphat::tiphat::tiphat:
 
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breizou

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Colombian Landrace from Cali
35 day's 12/12
she's look nice but I have some spider's :(
 

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charlie garcia

nice to see more colombianas Breizou, thx for uploading
Hope she smokes great!
is that pheno of 12-14 weeks? looks nice, it didnt stretch too much
Spiders feel great in this season, hard to beat them with the heat
best
 
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breizou

Thank's Charlie!!!
It is a cutting of the Colombian has locoporo, approximately 18 week of bloom, I think
arfff spider's :wallbash:
 
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charlie garcia

Hope you like the smoke, there is plenty of variation lately but aromas are still the same to me. Head sativa rush and bit mellow falling later

Best luck, hope you tell us results

Let me share a couple of details of another Punto Rojo, bit faster than yours
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breizou

Nice plant!!
I would show the from time to time carefree plant
the Colombian has loco went to bloom is 25 cms and is now 130 cms, the strecht was consequent
for the smoke, I look for the effect and not too much the flavour
sorry for my bad english

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