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Colombia 2024

limegreenlimey

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A very limited review of a short trip in Colombia.

Simply to say that I recently spent just over a week in Colombia. My visit was limited to a relatively small area of a relatively large country. I can't tell you all that much ; I hope that what I can tell you is useful or interesting or both.

I visited Cartagena, Santa Marta, and the Sierra Nevada. For those of you unfamiliar with Colombia, Cartagena is an old city, founded by the Spanish on the north, Caribbean coast. It's old city is walled, fortified a few centuries ago, is full of attractive period architecture, and is a cruise destination, among other things. It was the home of Gabriel Garcia Marquez. It's very beautiful. It's very safe as it's heavily policed to keep it safe. It's almost entirely devoted to tourism, local, regional and international. It's expensive by developing world standards. Same sort of prices as Spain or Greece in hotels and restaurants, some hotels slightly cheaper.

Santa Marta is another old city but far less attractive, further east on the same coast. It is next to a vast national park which includes Tayrona (beaches and jungle) and the Sierra Nevada (mountains and jungle) the highest parts of which are snow capped, even at the equator, which it nearly is. Santa Marta gave its name to "Santa Marta Gold", famous weed of the 60s and 70s. The hills were for some time the territory of weed and coca growing and some of these parts were outside government control. It's a big area. Weed is still grown there, certainly. But it has become touristed and it's now famous for "The Lost City Trek": Colombia's answer to Macchu Picchu (in terms of the trek, not the site so much) and eco tourism in general. On the coast, there are vaguely hippy party villages like Palomino. Not that you need to be a tourist to party in Colombia. They love a party, the Colombians. They love rum and dancing. And drugs not so much.

Now, for the purpose of my trip to the hills was, straightforwardly, to get stoned in the jungle, which I love to do. And, I am pleased to report, it's a great place for it. There's a village in the hills called Minca, which I suppose is like Vashisht or Kasol in India, or Pokhara Lakeside in Nepal. It is banana honey pancake territory. There are lots of hostels. There are lots of backpackers. Many of the visitors are not stoners. Most are trekkers and nature people. And some cyclists. But there are stoners and dready types there. You see posters of Ayahuasca sessions. You can buy shrooms over the counter. And if you look not very hard, there are shops openly selling weed.

My experience of Colombia weed is limited. I had some in Tobago a few years ago and very good it was too. It wasn't old school weed. In Colombia they mostly grow locally acclimated European/American sativas and that stuff was, basically, Amsterdam good (not best) quality bud. I had also be warned by people who had visited recently to expect to be disappointed.

In Minca I bought from two shops, almost next to each other, almost opposite the police station. Why are these places always so near the cop shop? Easy to collect the kickbacks? Protection? Who knows? I bought a "big" bag of buds form one and 2g from the other. Both were similar in quality, the 2g slightly better and certainly easier to smoke, as it was just a little drier. The quality was... Standard Commercial International Bud. SCIB! (We should trademark it!). It's (bearing in mind: tourist prices in tourist place, so this would be expensive) between $0.50 and $1 a gram. You can probably buy a kilo for $100 if you know the right people. I did not.

Minca is basically in a cloud forest. It's high in the hills. It is relatively cool (20 degrees C in the daytime when I was there). It is surrounded by steep hills and secondary rainforest. It is very humid indeed. Outside the small (a few streets) core of the village, there are roads, tracks and paths leading off into the hills and valleys, and that's where the nicer places to stay are. I staying in few places out towards "The Hidden Waterfall" (a bit of white water in some very attractive rainforest about 10 minutes walk steeply uphill from the village). You can pay anything from USA$10 to ??$hundreds a night, to stay in everything from a hammock to an eco lodge. You can get a good meal from USA$4 to USA$40. There are shops. Self catering is just about possible, based on the basic provisions shops in the village. You could drive to a supermarket in Santa Marta in half and hour. It's... very nice.

I didn't go there but the mini Goa stoner hippy village in the area is called Palomino, just east of the Tayrona national park. Apparently it's a raving on the beach, get stoned all day kind of place, surf a bit. Most people loved it. Mostly I didn't go because mostly the sea there is too dangerous to swim in and I don't like the beach if I can't swim, and I didn't have enough time.

In Cartagena you do get offered weed and coke a fair bit by street dealers. I didn't buy. I hate street deals, hate cocaine, and there are too many risks of getting caught up with the police. There are a couple of dispensaries too but they told me that they didn't sell THC weed (not to me anyway!). Could you score there? Sure. I expect it would be very easy. And then get a boat to the islands, which are all white sand and bamboo frame restaurants and the like. It would be nice, I am sure. Also, it must be said, there are a lot of prostitutes in Cartagena. Sex tourism is very visible there. That's not my thing so I didn't indulge. I did find it slightly tricky to smoke in Cartagena. It's not a place where you smell dope and my experience suggests that drug taking in general and dope smoking in particular in Colombia is definitely frowned upon by the majority. Suffice to say that annoying the police in Colombia is unlikely to be a good idea. So, I smoked pipes in my bathroom and that kept me happy for a few days.

Is Colombia a good stoner destination? From what I can tell, it's not a bad one. Possession is decriminalised (small fine). You can access weed. The weed is ok and cheap. The places to smoke outside the city are spectacular. It's not wildly expensive when you're there. It's not hard to meet nice people. The Colombians are a cheerful bunch. There are lots of other travellers. You can get stoned in a rainforest and listen to all the birds and bugs and frogs sing their little hearts out. I did. It was good.
 
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A very limited review of a short trip in Colombia.

Simply to say that I recently spent just over a week in Colombia. My visit was limited to a relatively small area of a relatively large country. I can't tell you all that much ; I hope that what I can tell you is useful or interesting or both.

I visited Cartagena, Santa Marta, and the Sierra Nevada. For those of you unfamiliar with Colombia, Cartagena is an old city, founded by the Spanish on the north, Caribbean coast. It's old city is walled, fortified a few centuries ago, is full of attractive period architecture, and is a cruise destination, among other things. It was the home of Gabriel Garcia Marquez. It's very beautiful. It's very safe as it's heavily policed to keep it safe. It's almost entirely devoted to tourism, local, regional and international. It's expensive by developing world standards. Same sort of prices as Spain or Greece in hotels and restaurants, some hotels slightly cheaper.

Santa Marta is another old city but far less attractive, further east on the same coast. It is next to a vast national park which includes Tayrona (beaches and jungle) and the Sierra Nevada (mountains and jungle) the highest parts of which are snow capped, even at the equator, which it nearly is. Santa Marta gave its name to "Santa Marta Gold", famous weed of the 60s and 70s. The hills were for some time the territory of weed and coca growing and some of these parts were outside government control. It's a big area. Weed is still grown there, certainly. But it has become touristed and it's now famous for "The Lost City Trek": Colombia's answer to Macchu Picchu (in terms of the trek, not the site so much) and eco tourism in general. On the coast, there are vaguely hippy party villages like Palomino. Not that you need to be a tourist to party in Colombia. They love a party, the Colombians. They love rum and dancing. And drugs not so much.

Now, for the purpose of my trip to the hills was, straightforwardly, to get stoned in the jungle, which I love to do. And, I am pleased to report, it's a great place for it. There's a village in the hills called Minca, which I suppose is like Vashisht or Kasol in India, or Pokhara Lakeside in Nepal. It is banana honey pancake territory. There are lots of hostels. There are lots of backpackers. Many of the visitors are not stoners. Most are trekkers and nature people. And some cyclists. But there are stoners and dready types there. You see posters of Ayahuasca sessions. You can buy shrooms over the counter. And if you look not very hard, there are shops openly selling weed.

My experience of Colombia weed is limited. I had some in Tobago a few years ago and very good it was too. It wasn't old school weed. In Colombia they mostly grow locally acclimated European/American sativas and that stuff was, basically, Amsterdam good (not best) quality bud. I had also be warned by people who had visited recently to expect to be disappointed.

In Minca I bought from two shops, almost next to each other, almost opposite the police station. Why are these places always so near the cop shop? Easy to collect the kickbacks? Protection? Who knows? I bought a "big" bag of buds form one and 2g from the other. Both were similar in quality, the 2g slightly better and certainly easier to smoke, as it was just a little drier. The quality was... Standard Commercial International Bud. SCIB! (We should trademark it!). It's (bearing in mind: tourist prices in tourist place, so this would be expensive) between $0.50 and $1 a gram. You can probably buy a kilo for $100 if you know the right people. I did not.

Minca is basically in a cloud forest. It's high in the hills. It is relatively cool (20 degrees C in the daytime when I was there). It is surrounded by steep hills and secondary rainforest. It is very humid indeed. Outside the small (a few streets) core of the village, there are roads, tracks and paths leading off into the hills and valleys, and that's where the nicer places to stay are. I staying in few places out towards "The Hidden Waterfall" (a bit of white water in some very attractive rainforest about 10 minutes walk steeply uphill from the village). You can pay anything from USA$10 to ??$hundreds a night, to stay in everything from a hammock to an eco lodge. You can get a good meal from USA$4 to USA$40. There are shops. Self catering is just about possible, based on the basic provisions shops in the village. You could drive to a supermarket in Santa Marta in half and hour. It's... very nice.

I didn't go there but the mini Goa stoner hippy village in the area is called Palomino, just east of the Tayrona national park. Apparently it's a raving on the beach, get stoned all day kind of place, surf a bit. Most people loved it. Mostly I didn't go because mostly the sea there is too dangerous to swim in and I don't like the beach if I can't swim, and I didn't have enough time.

In Cartagena you do get offered weed and coke a fair bit by street dealers. I didn't buy. I hate street deals, hate cocaine, and there are too many risks of getting caught up with the police. There are a couple of dispensaries too but they told me that they didn't sell THC weed (not to me anyway!). Could you score there? Sure. I expect it would be very easy. And then get a boat to the islands, which are all white sand and bamboo frame restaurants and the like. It would be nice, I am sure. Also, it must be said, there are a lot of prostitutes in Cartagena. Sex tourism is very visible there. That's not my thing so I didn't indulge. I did find it slightly tricky to smoke in Cartagena. It's not a place where you smell dope and my experience suggests that drug taking in general and dope smoking in particular in Colombia is definitely frowned upon by the majority. Suffice to say that annoying the police in Colombia is unlikely to be a good idea. So, I smoked pipes in my bathroom and that kept me happy for a few days.

Is Colombia a good stoner destination? From what I can tell, it's not a bad one. Possession is decriminalised (small fine). You can access weed. The weed is ok and cheap. The places to smoke outside the city are spectacular. It's not wildly expensive when you're there. It's not hard to meet nice people. The Colombians are a cheerful bunch. There are lots of other travellers. You can get stoned in a rainforest and listen to all the birds and bugs and frogs sing their little hearts out. I did. It was good.
Thank you, friend, I enjoyed your post. Exciting read.
 

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moose eater

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A very limited review of a short trip in Colombia.

Simply to say that I recently spent just over a week in Colombia. My visit was limited to a relatively small area of a relatively large country. I can't tell you all that much ; I hope that what I can tell you is useful or interesting or both.

I visited Cartagena, Santa Marta, and the Sierra Nevada. For those of you unfamiliar with Colombia, Cartagena is an old city, founded by the Spanish on the north, Caribbean coast. It's old city is walled, fortified a few centuries ago, is full of attractive period architecture, and is a cruise destination, among other things. It was the home of Gabriel Garcia Marquez. It's very beautiful. It's very safe as it's heavily policed to keep it safe. It's almost entirely devoted to tourism, local, regional and international. It's expensive by developing world standards. Same sort of prices as Spain or Greece in hotels and restaurants, some hotels slightly cheaper.

Santa Marta is another old city but far less attractive, further east on the same coast. It is next to a vast national park which includes Tayrona (beaches and jungle) and the Sierra Nevada (mountains and jungle) the highest parts of which are snow capped, even at the equator, which it nearly is. Santa Marta gave its name to "Santa Marta Gold", famous weed of the 60s and 70s. The hills were for some time the territory of weed and coca growing and some of these parts were outside government control. It's a big area. Weed is still grown there, certainly. But it has become touristed and it's now famous for "The Lost City Trek": Colombia's answer to Macchu Picchu (in terms of the trek, not the site so much) and eco tourism in general. On the coast, there are vaguely hippy party villages like Palomino. Not that you need to be a tourist to party in Colombia. They love a party, the Colombians. They love rum and dancing. And drugs not so much.

Now, for the purpose of my trip to the hills was, straightforwardly, to get stoned in the jungle, which I love to do. And, I am pleased to report, it's a great place for it. There's a village in the hills called Minca, which I suppose is like Vashisht or Kasol in India, or Pokhara Lakeside in Nepal. It is banana honey pancake territory. There are lots of hostels. There are lots of backpackers. Many of the visitors are not stoners. Most are trekkers and nature people. And some cyclists. But there are stoners and dready types there. You see posters of Ayahuasca sessions. You can buy shrooms over the counter. And if you look not very hard, there are shops openly selling weed.

My experience of Colombia weed is limited. I had some in Tobago a few years ago and very good it was too. It wasn't old school weed. In Colombia they mostly grow locally acclimated European/American sativas and that stuff was, basically, Amsterdam good (not best) quality bud. I had also be warned by people who had visited recently to expect to be disappointed.

In Minca I bought from two shops, almost next to each other, almost opposite the police station. Why are these places always so near the cop shop? Easy to collect the kickbacks? Protection? Who knows? I bought a "big" bag of buds form one and 2g from the other. Both were similar in quality, the 2g slightly better and certainly easier to smoke, as it was just a little drier. The quality was... Standard Commercial International Bud. SCIB! (We should trademark it!). It's (bearing in mind: tourist prices in tourist place, so this would be expensive) between $0.50 and $1 a gram. You can probably buy a kilo for $100 if you know the right people. I did not.

Minca is basically in a cloud forest. It's high in the hills. It is relatively cool (20 degrees C in the daytime when I was there). It is surrounded by steep hills and secondary rainforest. It is very humid indeed. Outside the small (a few streets) core of the village, there are roads, tracks and paths leading off into the hills and valleys, and that's where the nicer places to stay are. I staying in few places out towards "The Hidden Waterfall" (a bit of white water in some very attractive rainforest about 10 minutes walk steeply uphill from the village). You can pay anything from USA$10 to ??$hundreds a night, to stay in everything from a hammock to an eco lodge. You can get a good meal from USA$4 to USA$40. There are shops. Self catering is just about possible, based on the basic provisions shops in the village. You could drive to a supermarket in Santa Marta in half and hour. It's... very nice.

I didn't go there but the mini Goa stoner hippy village in the area is called Palomino, just east of the Tayrona national park. Apparently it's a raving on the beach, get stoned all day kind of place, surf a bit. Most people loved it. Mostly I didn't go because mostly the sea there is too dangerous to swim in and I don't like the beach if I can't swim, and I didn't have enough time.

In Cartagena you do get offered weed and coke a fair bit by street dealers. I didn't buy. I hate street deals, hate cocaine, and there are too many risks of getting caught up with the police. There are a couple of dispensaries too but they told me that they didn't sell THC weed (not to me anyway!). Could you score there? Sure. I expect it would be very easy. And then get a boat to the islands, which are all white sand and bamboo frame restaurants and the like. It would be nice, I am sure. Also, it must be said, there are a lot of prostitutes in Cartagena. Sex tourism is very visible there. That's not my thing so I didn't indulge. I did find it slightly tricky to smoke in Cartagena. It's not a place where you smell dope and my experience suggests that drug taking in general and dope smoking in particular in Colombia is definitely frowned upon by the majority. Suffice to say that annoying the police in Colombia is unlikely to be a good idea. So, I smoked pipes in my bathroom and that kept me happy for a few days.

Is Colombia a good stoner destination? From what I can tell, it's not a bad one. Possession is decriminalised (small fine). You can access weed. The weed is ok and cheap. The places to smoke outside the city are spectacular. It's not wildly expensive when you're there. It's not hard to meet nice people. The Colombians are a cheerful bunch. There are lots of other travellers. You can get stoned in a rainforest and listen to all the birds and bugs and frogs sing their little hearts out. I did. It was good.
When the street corner dealers in Cartagena (or elsewhere) offer a gram or an eighth of coke, how clean is it typically going to be, and what amounts of money are they typically asking?? Has their coke yet been affected by those who rudely put Fentanyl in such things?

Similar questions re. a decent mountain-grown local old-school sativa?

Same-same re. potent locally produced psilocybin mushrooms?
 

Phytoplankton

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A very limited review of a short trip in Colombia.

Simply to say that I recently spent just over a week in Colombia. My visit was limited to a relatively small area of a relatively large country. I can't tell you all that much ; I hope that what I can tell you is useful or interesting or both.

I visited Cartagena, Santa Marta, and the Sierra Nevada. For those of you unfamiliar with Colombia, Cartagena is an old city, founded by the Spanish on the north, Caribbean coast. It's old city is walled, fortified a few centuries ago, is full of attractive period architecture, and is a cruise destination, among other things. It was the home of Gabriel Garcia Marquez. It's very beautiful. It's very safe as it's heavily policed to keep it safe. It's almost entirely devoted to tourism, local, regional and international. It's expensive by developing world standards. Same sort of prices as Spain or Greece in hotels and restaurants, some hotels slightly cheaper.

Santa Marta is another old city but far less attractive, further east on the same coast. It is next to a vast national park which includes Tayrona (beaches and jungle) and the Sierra Nevada (mountains and jungle) the highest parts of which are snow capped, even at the equator, which it nearly is. Santa Marta gave its name to "Santa Marta Gold", famous weed of the 60s and 70s. The hills were for some time the territory of weed and coca growing and some of these parts were outside government control. It's a big area. Weed is still grown there, certainly. But it has become touristed and it's now famous for "The Lost City Trek": Colombia's answer to Macchu Picchu (in terms of the trek, not the site so much) and eco tourism in general. On the coast, there are vaguely hippy party villages like Palomino. Not that you need to be a tourist to party in Colombia. They love a party, the Colombians. They love rum and dancing. And drugs not so much.

Now, for the purpose of my trip to the hills was, straightforwardly, to get stoned in the jungle, which I love to do. And, I am pleased to report, it's a great place for it. There's a village in the hills called Minca, which I suppose is like Vashisht or Kasol in India, or Pokhara Lakeside in Nepal. It is banana honey pancake territory. There are lots of hostels. There are lots of backpackers. Many of the visitors are not stoners. Most are trekkers and nature people. And some cyclists. But there are stoners and dready types there. You see posters of Ayahuasca sessions. You can buy shrooms over the counter. And if you look not very hard, there are shops openly selling weed.

My experience of Colombia weed is limited. I had some in Tobago a few years ago and very good it was too. It wasn't old school weed. In Colombia they mostly grow locally acclimated European/American sativas and that stuff was, basically, Amsterdam good (not best) quality bud. I had also be warned by people who had visited recently to expect to be disappointed.

In Minca I bought from two shops, almost next to each other, almost opposite the police station. Why are these places always so near the cop shop? Easy to collect the kickbacks? Protection? Who knows? I bought a "big" bag of buds form one and 2g from the other. Both were similar in quality, the 2g slightly better and certainly easier to smoke, as it was just a little drier. The quality was... Standard Commercial International Bud. SCIB! (We should trademark it!). It's (bearing in mind: tourist prices in tourist place, so this would be expensive) between $0.50 and $1 a gram. You can probably buy a kilo for $100 if you know the right people. I did not.

Minca is basically in a cloud forest. It's high in the hills. It is relatively cool (20 degrees C in the daytime when I was there). It is surrounded by steep hills and secondary rainforest. It is very humid indeed. Outside the small (a few streets) core of the village, there are roads, tracks and paths leading off into the hills and valleys, and that's where the nicer places to stay are. I staying in few places out towards "The Hidden Waterfall" (a bit of white water in some very attractive rainforest about 10 minutes walk steeply uphill from the village). You can pay anything from USA$10 to ??$hundreds a night, to stay in everything from a hammock to an eco lodge. You can get a good meal from USA$4 to USA$40. There are shops. Self catering is just about possible, based on the basic provisions shops in the village. You could drive to a supermarket in Santa Marta in half and hour. It's... very nice.

I didn't go there but the mini Goa stoner hippy village in the area is called Palomino, just east of the Tayrona national park. Apparently it's a raving on the beach, get stoned all day kind of place, surf a bit. Most people loved it. Mostly I didn't go because mostly the sea there is too dangerous to swim in and I don't like the beach if I can't swim, and I didn't have enough time.

In Cartagena you do get offered weed and coke a fair bit by street dealers. I didn't buy. I hate street deals, hate cocaine, and there are too many risks of getting caught up with the police. There are a couple of dispensaries too but they told me that they didn't sell THC weed (not to me anyway!). Could you score there? Sure. I expect it would be very easy. And then get a boat to the islands, which are all white sand and bamboo frame restaurants and the like. It would be nice, I am sure. Also, it must be said, there are a lot of prostitutes in Cartagena. Sex tourism is very visible there. That's not my thing so I didn't indulge. I did find it slightly tricky to smoke in Cartagena. It's not a place where you smell dope and my experience suggests that drug taking in general and dope smoking in particular in Colombia is definitely frowned upon by the majority. Suffice to say that annoying the police in Colombia is unlikely to be a good idea. So, I smoked pipes in my bathroom and that kept me happy for a few days.

Is Colombia a good stoner destination? From what I can tell, it's not a bad one. Possession is decriminalised (small fine). You can access weed. The weed is ok and cheap. The places to smoke outside the city are spectacular. It's not wildly expensive when you're there. It's not hard to meet nice people. The Colombians are a cheerful bunch. There are lots of other travellers. You can get stoned in a rainforest and listen to all the birds and bugs and frogs sing their little hearts out. I did. It was good.
I’ve been to Cartagena a couple times on cruises and love that city! The old architecture is amazing, as is the huge fort guarding the harbor. Never bought weed there, but was offered. I did buy some loose emeralds (wife loves emeralds) that I had made into earrings, for our 30th wedding anniversary. According to the jeweler in the states who made the earrings, I did real good! If you ever get a chance or have seen the movie “Romancing the Stone”, a lot of it was filmed in Cartagena and the surrounding countryside.
 

limegreenlimey

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When the street corner dealers in Cartagena (or elsewhere) offer a gram or an eighth of coke, how clean is it typically going to be, and what amounts of money are they typically asking?? Has their coke yet been affected by those who rudely put Fentanyl in such things?

Similar questions re. a decent mountain-grown local old-school sativa?

Same-same re. potent locally produced psilocybin mushrooms?
I have no idea about the coke. I dislike the stuff. I doubt the street dealers have anything good

There is Very little old school sativa on offer. It's there. Some heads will have it. But mostly it's commercial strains (read my report again). See RedRider's post.

Shrooms are easily available in Minca and I guess in Palomino etc. Mostly dried not fresh, prepped as chocolates etc also.
 

moose eater

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I have no idea about the coke. I dislike the stuff. I doubt the street dealers have anything good

There is Very little old school sativa on offer. It's there. Some heads will have it. But mostly it's commercial strains (read my report again). See RedRider's post.

Shrooms are easily available in Minca and I guess in Palomino etc. Mostly dried not fresh, prepped as chocolates etc also.
Thanks.

I have done some research recently (looking to credible scientific-type legitimate research) and apparently there is/was a study (maybe more than one, actually) of street coke in various areas of Colombia, and the coke tested was about 65% as a rule, sometimes a bit higher and sometimes a bit lower, but from the street, surprisingly. (not bad compared to the shwag that was often passed around in bars in the US years ago) And the cut, as often as not, with the Colombian street vended coke involved caffeine, which I guess is heads and shoulders above the cretins adding Fentanyl and other unwelcome nonsense to various drugs these days, including coke.

Again, thank for the answers.
 
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red rider

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Cocaine:
It is my opinion that Colombian does and has for decades produced high quality cocaine (whatever that means).
Although I've never been a fan and it's been years since my last encounter, I have in the past sniffed a little here and in the states. I've bought it on the streets in both Cartagena and Bogota with various results. I've also had pure Lab fresh stuff in Punto Mayo that had no cut like 97% pure. Like I said I'm not a fan but big difference between the jungle stuff and the street stuff. I bought from different sellers and some samples were shit like not coke while some were pretty good especially in Bogota. No idea what it's cut with but it's definitely cut, worse than anything I had in the states. Now the Punto Mayo jungle stuff was incredible and the only reason I even tasted it was cause the Indians told me it was pure. I'm into it but I put a tiny bit in my nose and instantly numbed the side of my head. Dentist should use this stuff cause it works better than Novocaine and quicker. In my opinion it's too strong pure and needs some kind of good cut to slow it down a bit.
That one little sniff kept me up half the night much to the humor of the local Indians that gave it to me.
At this point in my life I have no desire for cocaine, absolutely lost any interest I might have had years ago. If someone asked me today where to score, I couldn't tell you. But common sense tells us street drugs anywhere are shitty. Better when you know someone before trying to buy off the street. As a rule cocaine in general involves risky people and opportunistic predators especially here. Scaloppine is what tourist should be very aware of, happens all the time. Have fun but be extra careful.


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limegreenlimey

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As I said, I dislike cocaine but I have had some very positive experiences chewing coca leaf. It requires some patience and a little method but may be stronger than you expect. It's also not saddled with all the ethical problems associated with it's powdery offspring.
 

moose eater

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As I said, I dislike cocaine but I have had some very positive experiences chewing coca leaf. It requires some patience and a little method but may be stronger than you expect. It's also not saddled with all the ethical problems associated with it's powdery offspring.
I've chewed raw, dried coca leaf, and it whoops the bejesus out of the morning standard French roast coffee.

A Peruvian I knew in Anchorage, Alaska used to bring back grocery bags of commercially packaged Mate' de Coca (tea bags) when he'd return home for visits, and only once did US Customs give him shit about it on his return to the US, and he simply replied that his Doctor recommended it for stomach upset.

I first chewed raw dried leaf back in about 1981 or so, and found it very nice.
 

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Coca leaf is a totally different animal for sure. It's very legal here and ingrained with the culture. In Paipa there's a lot of restaurants/cafe's that serve Coca leaf tea and sell the leaf itself in different shops. A Colombian told me the difference between the leaf and the powder is like the difference between a grape and wine. Coca leaf good



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moose eater

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Coca leaf is a totally different animal for sure. It's very legal here and ingrained with the culture. In Paipa there's a lot of restaurants/cafe's that serve Coca leaf tea and sell the leaf itself in different shops. A Colombian told me the difference between the leaf and the powder is like the difference between a grape and wine. Coca leaf good



red rider
Or maybe 15 double-shot espressos, versus a weak cup of Taster's Choice instant. ;)
 

moose eater

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I dealt 92% pure ("yellow") uncut for a number of years. It came in that way and left that way. I NEVER laid anything on my coke. Not even when my source 'encouraged' me to, claiming I was making their retail end look bad, as opposed to THEM making their own retail end look bad.

If it numbs instantly, rather than a couple second delay, it's likely got other refined commercial 'caine derivatives' in it.

But I found this study (I referenced earlier), in particular, to be insightful and interesting, though info on the cooperation scams between street dealers and cops came from elsewhere, and made Bolivia or rural 'smaller village' Colombia look preferable for a vacation spot.

And yes, the coke market sometimes included (avoidable) interactions with unscrupulous people, some of whom had limited awareness of things like personal boundaries, clocks and etiquette involving not knocking on someone's door at 2:30 AM, etc. But, as stated, these were typically avoidable for dealers who were more discerning than greedy and ignorant.

*Some very informative graphs/charts further down in this specific study.

 
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