My opinion would be that your adapted Scandinavian seeds are indeed modern landraces, and something to be preserved! As for the question of OG Kush or other modern hybrids I would say definitively NO. Why? Because they are hybrids, F1s and not IBLs. A strain can only become adapted and "native-ized" by inbreeding within it's own line for years and decades (and centuries). I appreciate all the modern stuff and variety, but I think we are doing a disservice by not breeding/selecting quality hybrids across multiple generations. I respect all breeders, but particularly those folks going to F6, F8, F10+. That's dedication, and reaps unique rewards.
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agree on that statement.
Yes they are considered landrace and really nice. Bald lala, Thy crewet, heinke, tanska, Hybrids from hell, and a hella of lot more local unknow breeders. They keept some sweet grass for sure.
Even though I love heriloom, landraces, then milk, zkittles, gmo, g.crack, silverhaze, cheese,etc. are lovely too. It all about picking the right profile for your mood(I think). But yes there is a lot of polypoly today. your truely right, alot of people don´t work a line. It takes years without a big operation + if no analytic equitment for genome your playin with, the seems like a long road ! But hey out ancestors used their body as the true test.
Yes they are considered landrace and really nice. Bald lala, Thy crewet, heinke, tanska, Hybrids from hell, and a hella of lot more local unknow breeders. They keept some sweet grass for sure.
Even though I love heriloom, landraces, then milk, zkittles, gmo, g.crack, silverhaze, cheese,etc. are lovely too. It all about picking the right profile for your mood(I think). But yes there is a lot of polypoly today. your truely right, alot of people don´t work a line. It takes years without a big operation + if no analytic equitment for genome your playin with, the seems like a long road ! But hey out ancestors used their body as the true test.
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How do I get a secret decoder ring and my first dossier?
... but seriously, how can I help?
Shit seems important and doing something important is important to me.
Even growing old important imports while imbibing port in Portola portapotties..
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For pure sativa on this list anyone see anything that is worthy? - Sorted by day length.
For our purposes here what should be removed ?
Maybe all the hybrids keeping only single source no mixed location strains?
Will keep seeds listed from defunct sellers in hopes someone saved old packs
Anything missing ???
| Name of the strain | Breeder | |
| Colombian Black | Breeder Choice Organisation | 150 |
| Pure Haze | Breeder Choice Organisation | 150 |
| Pernambuco Gold | Brazilian S.C. | 150 |
| Santa Marta Colombian | Brazilian S.C. | 150 |
| Aracaju Red | Brazilian S.C. | 150 |
| Vietnam Tourist Hemp | Green Hornet | 150 |
| Kerala Chellakutti | Khalifa Genetics | 150 |
| Acapulco Gold - Preservation | MassMedicalStrains | 150 |
| Mulanje Gold | Mount Zion Seed Cooperative | 150 |
| Double Zamal | Underground Seeds Collective | 147 |
| Oldtimer's Haze | ACE Seeds | 140 |
| Colombia Mangobiche | Cannabiogen | 140 |
| Andhra Bhang | Indian Landrace Exchange | 140 |
| Cambodia Mekong River Delta | Indian Landrace Exchange | 140 |
| Idukki Gold | Indian Landrace Exchange | 140 |
| Colombian Gold | Landrace Seeds | 135 |
| Colombia Punto Rojo | Cannabiogen | 133 |
| Nepalese | The Landrace Team | 133 |
| Green Haze | ACE Seeds | 126 |
| Purple Haze | ACE Seeds | 126 |
| Double Thai | ACE Seeds | 126 |
| Purple Haze x Panama F1 | ACE Seeds | 126 |
| Purple Haze x Thai | ACE Seeds | 126 |
| Colombian Gold 72 | Underground Seeds Collective | 126 |
| Mekong Haze | Delta 9 Labs | 126 |
| Kullu Valley | Khalifa Genetics | 126 |
| Santa Marta | Farmer Brown Seeds | 125 |
| Kerala Gold | Indian Landrace Exchange | 124 |
| Haze-4-Dayz | Boneyard Seeds Norcal | 121 |
| Panama Red Pure | California Connoisseur Genetics | 121 |
| Panama Red x Black Congo | California Connoisseur Genetics | 121 |
| Haze | BlueHemp Switzerland | 120 |
| Oaxacan Gold | Cryptic Labs | 120 |
| Divine Sativa | Divine Seeds | 120 |
| K1 | French Touch Seeds | 120 |
| Sri Lankan Ganja | Green Hornet | 120 |
| Thai Stick | ACE Seeds | 119 |
| Green Haze x Thai | ACE Seeds | 119 |
| Assam Hash Plant | Indian Landrace Exchange | 119 |
| Suratgarh | Indian Landrace Exchange | 119 |
| Black Congo Pure | California Connoisseur Genetics | 116 |
| Mango Biche | The Landrace Team | 116 |
| Mangu Karot | French Touch Seeds | 115 |
| Mango Biche | Hisens Crew | 115 |
| Zamal Kalitè Poivré | Hybrid Department | 115 |
| Oldtimer's Pupil | MassMedicalStrains | 115 |
| 2046 | Medical Seeds Co | 115 |
| Green Honduras Haze | ACE Seeds | 112 |
| Purple Honduras Haze | ACE Seeds | 112 |
| Malawi Gold | Christiania Seedbank | 112 |
| Colombian Black | Gage Green Genetics | 112 |
| Colombian Gold | Gage Green Genetics | 112 |
| Kalimpong | Indian Landrace Exchange | 112 |
| Eastern Manipur-Burma | Indian Landrace Exchange | 112 |
| Black Forrest | Kingdom Organic Seeds | 112 |
| Pure Zamal | ApeOrigin | 110 |
| Piff | Brazilian S.C. | 110 |
| Highland Guerrero | Cryptic Labs | 110 |
| Mango Pepper | French Touch Seeds | 110 |
| Filipino Kibungan | Khalifa Genetics | 109 |
| Thai Hill | The Landrace Team | 109 |
| Malawi Gold | Afropips Seeds | 105 |
| Malawi Mini | Afropips Seeds | 105 |
| Durban Poison | Afropips Seeds | 105 |
| Double Jam | Underground Seeds Collective | 105 |
| Coljam | Underground Seeds Collective | 105 |
| Jamaica Blue Mountain | Cannabiogen | 105 |
| Sikul | Indian Landrace Exchange | 105 |
| Lao Luang Prabang | ACE Seeds | 102 |
| Green Haze x Malawi | ACE Seeds | 102 |
| Purple Haze x Malawi | ACE Seeds | 102 |
| Panama Haze | ACE Seeds | 102 |
| Mauritius x Ethiopian | ACE Seeds | 102 |
| Llanera | The Landrace Team | 102 |
| Gambia | The Landrace Team | 102 |
| Nepalese Jam | ACE Seeds | 100 |
| Original Haze | Authentic Genetics | 100 |
| Angola Red | Brazilian S.C. | 100 |
| Oh/OthxSativa | B Seeds Co | 100 |
| Hawaiian Haze | Cosmic Wisdom | 100 |
| Golden Haze | Dr Greenthumb | 100 |
| Willie Nelson | Gage Green Genetics | 100 |
| Mango Zamal | Mandala Seeds | 100 |
| Walkabout | Mr Nice Seedbank | 100 |
| Carmagnola | North East Hemp | 100 |
| Honduras | ACE Seeds | 98 |
| Golden Tiger | ACE Seeds | 98 |
| Golden Tiger Third Version | ACE Seeds | 98 |
| Nepal Haze | Cannabiogen | 98 |
| North Indian Red Stem | Christiania Seedbank | 98 |
| Chocolate Thai | Dutch Flowers | 98 |
| M2 | Elev8 Seeds | 98 |
| The original Haze | Flying Dutchmen | 98 |
| Green House Thai | Green House Seeds | 98 |
| Laos Muang Sing | Khalifa Genetics | 98 |
| Idukki | The Landrace Team | 98 |
For our purposes here what should be removed ?
Maybe all the hybrids keeping only single source no mixed location strains?
Will keep seeds listed from defunct sellers in hopes someone saved old packs
Anything missing ???
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| Name of the strain | Breeder | Days Flo |
| Alien Technology | Obsoul33t Genetics | ? |
| Chem 91 x Talk of Kabul | Bodhi Seeds | ? |
| Chitrali #1 | Breeder Choice Organisation | ? |
| Golden Triangle Akha | The Real S.C. | ? |
| Lashkar Gah | Unknown or Legendary | ? |
| Mazar I Sharif | Seedsman | ? |
| Oregon Afghani | Clone Only Strains | ? |
| Original Afghani No1 | Growers Choice | ? |
| SoCal Master Kush x Uzbekistani Hashplant | Bodhi Seeds | ? |
| Iranian Early Flower BX2 | Oregon Green Seed | 41 |
| Lebanese | BlueHemp Switzerland | 43 |
| Landrace Afghanistan | Cartel Seeds | 45 |
| Chuck Berry | Apothecary Genetics | 46 |
| Original Afghani #1 | Aficionado Seed Bank | 46 |
| Original Afghani #1 | Seedsman | 46 |
| Cosmic Afghani | Cosmic Wisdom | 49 |
| Hash Passion | Seedsman | 49 |
| Lolab Valley | Indian Landrace Exchange | 49 |
| Enemy of the State | HY-PRO Seeds | 50 |
| Kabul Fast | Divine Seeds | 50 |
| Afghan Mother | Paul N Chuck Seeds | 53 |
| Hash Star | GreenLabel Seeds | 53 |
| Master Kush | Elev8 Seeds | 53 |
| Pure Afghan | DNA Genetics Seeds | 53 |
| Turkish Landrace | Underground Seeds Collective | 53 |
| Purple Kush | Huba Seed Bank | 54 |
| Agha Black (Maruf Black) Preservation | Red Scare S.C. | 55 |
| Agha Red (Maruf Black) Preservation | Red Scare S.C. | 55 |
| Kashmiri Sirnoo | Old World Organics | 55 |
| Afghan Kush + | BSB Genetics | 56 |
| Afghanica | Anesia Seeds | 56 |
| Afghanistan Hashplant | Annibale Genetics | 56 |
| Combat Cookies | 2 Guns and a Guy S.C. | 56 |
| Freak Chunk Deep Chunk | The Real S.C. | 56 |
| Mazar I Sharif | Red Scare S.C. | 56 |
| Mazar-i-Sharif | ACE Seeds | 56 |
| Northern Legend | Aztech Genetics | 56 |
| VerryBerry Kush | Nasty Nugz Seed Co | 56 |
| Alien Technology | Seeds66 | 58 |
| Afghan | Spliff Seeds | 60 |
| Black Afghani | Underground Seeds Collective | 60 |
| GG Allin | Southern Star Seeds | 60 |
| Pakistan Chitral Kush | ACE Seeds | 60 |
| Pakistani Hash Plant | Aficionado Seed Bank | 60 |
| Permanent Profile | GI Genetix | 60 |
| Purple Kush '68 IBL | Primordial Beanz | 60 |
| Quebec Pluton | Hash Hands Co | 60 |
| Taskenti | Cannabiogen | 60 |
| Uzbekistan Hash Plant | Nomad Seed Bank | 60 |
| War Trophy | 2 Guns and a Guy S.C. | 60 |
| Zenaks | Koalatea Genetics | 60 |
| Azad Kashmir | Red Scare S.C. | 63 |
| Cider Kush (X18) | The Real S.C. | 63 |
| Hindu Kush | Indian Landrace Exchange | 63 |
| Kabul | Divine Seeds | 63 |
| Mazar i-Shariff x Mazar i-Shariff | New420Guy Seeds | 63 |
| Mr. E | MassMedicalStrains | 63 |
| The Kali | Big Buddha Seeds | 63 |
| Yumbolt | CBD Seeds | 63 |
| Zanjeer | Indian Landrace Exchange | 63 |
| Hawaiian Duckfoot | Pua Mana Pakalolo | 64 |
| AfghAlien | Sunleaf Seed Co | 65 |
| Shambhala Kush | Trichome Jungle Seeds | 65 |
| Maruf Kandahar | Indian Landrace Exchange | 66 |
| Baharak | Afghan Selection | 67 |
| Balkh | Afghan Selection | 67 |
| Chimtal | Afghan Selection | 67 |
| Kholm | Afghan Selection | 67 |
| Mazar-i-Sharif | Afghan Selection | 67 |
| Mazari Landrace | Indian Landrace Exchange | 67 |
| Sheberghan | Afghan Selection | 67 |
| Afghan Lemon | Khalifa Genetics | 70 |
| Balkh Hashplant | Khalifa Genetics | 70 |
| Ghazni | The Real S.C. | 70 |
| Iranian | The Real S.C. | 70 |
| Maruf Black | Tonygreens Tortured Beans | 70 |
| Purple Dasht | ACE Seeds | 70 |
| Purple Dashti | Indian Landrace Exchange | 70 |
| Sheberghan Hashplant | Khalifa Genetics | 70 |
| Balochistan Black Tiger | Indian Landrace Exchange | 77 |
| Manar Ghazni | Indian Landrace Exchange | 77 |
| Arghandab II Kandahar | Indian Landrace Exchange | 84 |
| Pre Soviet Afghani | Farmer Brown Seeds | 90 |
| Balochistan Quetta Purple Selection #1 | Indian Landrace Exchange | 98 |
| Balochistan Quetta Purple Selection #2 | Indian Landrace Exchange | 98 |
For our purposes here what should be removed ?
Maybe all the hybrids keeping only single source no mixed location strains?
Will keep seeds listed from defunct sellers in hopes someone saved old packs
Anything missing ???
| Pakistan Selections / Direct Descendents | Afghani Direct Descendents | Hindu Kush Direct Descendents | few rare others | |||||||
| Azad Kashmir » Pakistan - Indica Azad Kashmir | Afghan Cherries » Afghani | Afgan Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica Afghanistan | Karakoram Kush Karakoram - Indica Hopar Valley Karakoram - Indica Gilgit-Baltistan Hunza Valley Karakoram - Indica Gilgit-Baltistan | |||||||
| Balochistan Black Tiger » Pakistan - Indica Mastung, Balochistan | Afghan Hash Plant » Afghani x Afghani | Afgan Kush Special » Afgan Kush x Afgan Kush Mutant | Ata Tundra Alaska x Kazakhstan - Indica Ata Tundra USA, Alaska x Kazakhstan - Indica | |||||||
| Balochistan Quetta Purple Selection Nr1 » Pakistan - Indica Quetta, Balochistan F1 | Afghan Helmand » Afghani Helmand | Afghan Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica | Ouzbekistan » Uzbekistan - Indica F12 | |||||||
| Balochistan Quetta Purple Selection Nr2 » Pakistan - Indica Quetta, Balochistan | Afghan Mother » Afghani | Afghan Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica Afghanistan | Uzbekistan » Uzbekistan - Indica | |||||||
| Chitral » Pakistan - Indica | Afghani » Afghani | Afghan Kush Early Harvest » Afghan Kush fast version | Uzbekistan Hash Plant » Uzbekistan IBL | |||||||
| Chitrali Nr1 » Pakistan - Indica IBL | Afghani Bullrider » Afghani | Afghan Kush Plus » Hindu Kush - Indica | ||||||||
| Cider Kush X18 » X18 x X18 | Afghani Heirloom » Afghani S1 | Afghani Hindu Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica x Hindu Kush - Indica | ||||||||
| Citral » Pakistan - Indica Probably Indica | Afghani Nr1 » Afghani | Afghani Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica | ||||||||
| Citral » Citral | Afkansastan » Afghani | Baghlan Hashplant » Hindu Kush - Indica Baghlan province | ||||||||
| Djinns Gift » Pakistan - Indica IBL | Apex Dominus » Afghani | Baghlan Hindu » Hindu Kush - Indica Baghlan province | ||||||||
| Gilgit Valley » Pakistan - Indica | Aurora Borealis » Northern Lights | Baharak » Hindu Kush - Indica Badakhshan province | ||||||||
| Jhelum Basin » Pakistan - Indica Neelum district | BC Mango » Afghani | Blackout Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica | ||||||||
| NW Balochistan Nr4 » Pakistan - Indica | Bomb » Afghani F1 | Ceres Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica | ||||||||
| Old Man Purps » Chitral Kush Purple Pheno | Cherry Queen » Afghani Fat Cherry Afghani x Afghani Old Mother Ghani | Cherry Jam » Tuna Kush x Tuna Kush S1 | ||||||||
| Pakistan Chitral » Pakistan Chitral | Clementine » Afghani x Afghani | Chitrali » Hindu Kush - Indica Chitral | ||||||||
| Pakistan Chitral Kush » Pakistan - Indica Chitral | Cosmic Afghani » Afghani | Dynamis » Hindu Kush - Indica selection probably | ||||||||
| Pakistan Chitral Kush » Pakistan Chitral Kush | Desert Storm » Afghani x Afghani | Frosty Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica x Hindu Kush - Indica | ||||||||
| Pakistani Hash Plant » Pakistan - Indica | Double G » Afghani | Ghazni » Hindu Kush - Indica Ghazni province | ||||||||
| Pakistani Hash Plant » Pakistan - Indica | Hybrid X » Northern Lights non-smelly pheno | Golden Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica probably | ||||||||
| Pakistani Hash Plant » Pakistan - Indica Probably Indica | Indian » Northern Lights | Gordo Master Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica | ||||||||
| Pine Tar Kush » Pakistan - Indica IBL | Kandahar Black » Afghani Kandahar | Hindu Dream » Hindu Kush - Indica | ||||||||
| Pine Tar Kush » Pine Tar Kush | Kush 4 » Afghani | Hindu Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica | ||||||||
| Purple Dasht » Purple Dasht | La Cucaracha » Afghani | Hindu Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica | ||||||||
| Purple Dashti » Pakistan - Indica Quetta Baluchistan | Landrace Afghanistan » Afghani | Hindu Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica | ||||||||
| Purple Kush » Pakistan Chitral Kush x Pakistan Chitral Kush | Lashkar Gah » Afghani Helmand | Hindu Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica | ||||||||
| Purple Pakistan Chitral » Pakistan Chitral Kush Selection | Lucky Bubble » Afghani IBL | Hindu Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica India F1 | ||||||||
| Purple Pakistani Chitral » Pakistan - Indica IBL | Mazar » Afghani Mazar-i-Sharif | Hindu Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica | ||||||||
| Purple Pakistani Chitral » Pakistan Chitral Kush x Pakistan Chitral Kush | Moonlight » Northern Lights | Hindu Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica Probably Indica | ||||||||
| TNT Kush » Pakistan - Indica | Mud Bight Delight » Afghani Ketchikan, Alaska | Hindu Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica | ||||||||
| X18 » Pakistan - Indica | Pre Soviet Afghani » Afghani Chimtal district x Afghani Chimtal district | Hindu Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica Tajikistan | ||||||||
| X18 Pure Pakistani » X18 | Procrasta » Afghani x Afghani F2 | Hindu Kush Heirloom » Hindu Kush - Indica x Hindu Kush - Indica | ||||||||
| Purest Indica » Afghani | Hindu Kush x Hindu Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica | |||||||||
| Purest Indica IBL » Purest Indica x Purest Indica | Jager » Hindu Kush - Indica probably | |||||||||
| Purple Afghani Kush » Afghani S1 | Jager » Jager x Jager S1 | |||||||||
| Road Kill Skunk » Afghani probably | Jahkirevi Kush » Unknown Cali Kush probably | |||||||||
| Road Kill Skunk » Road Kill Skunk | Ketama Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica | |||||||||
| Spanish Nights » Northern Lights Selection | Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica Probably Indica | |||||||||
| Sterling Green Skunk » RKS Xochipilli Sterling Green x RKS Xochipilli Sterling Green | Kush Rau300 » Hindu Kush - Indica | |||||||||
| War Trophy » Afghani Purple pheno x Afghani Purple pheno IBL | Kush del arriero » Hindu Kush - Indica | |||||||||
| LA Pure Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica Probably | ||||||||||
| LA Pure Kush F2 » LA Pure Kush F1 x LA Pure Kush F1 F2 | ||||||||||
| Lemon Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica | ||||||||||
| Master Kush » Master Kush probably | ||||||||||
| Master Kush » Masterkush | ||||||||||
| Masterkush » Hindu Kush - Indica x Hindu Kush - Indica | ||||||||||
| Masterkush » Masterkush | ||||||||||
| Mature Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica | ||||||||||
| Michigan Sweet Pine » Hindu Kush - Indica x Hindu Kush - Indica F2 | ||||||||||
| Mountain Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica | ||||||||||
| Narkush » Hindu Kush - Indica x Hindu Kush - Indica F1 | ||||||||||
| NineTails » Hindu Kush - Indica 80's | ||||||||||
| Oregon Raspberry » Hindu Kush - Indica probably | ||||||||||
| Pakistan Valley » Hindu Kush - Indica | ||||||||||
| Pink Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica | ||||||||||
| Post Traumatic Purple » Hindu Kush - Indica | ||||||||||
| Pure Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica | ||||||||||
| Pure Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica Probably | ||||||||||
| Purple Skunk » Hindu Kush - Indica IBL | ||||||||||
| Shivas Cheeba » Hindu Kush - Indica | ||||||||||
| Sinister Kush » Unknown Kush Probably | ||||||||||
| SoCal Master Kush » Masterkush Selection | ||||||||||
| Sweet Valley Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica | ||||||||||
| Topanga Pure Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica x Hindu Kush - Indica probably | ||||||||||
| Tuna Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica x Hindu Kush - Indica | ||||||||||
| Tuna Kush » Hindu Kush - Indica x Hindu Kush - Indica | ||||||||||
| Zmoothiez Zignature » Hindu Kush - Indica IBL |
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Now that's a strain list!
I'm not sure what you're asking... what is worthy for you, for me, for us? I'm interested in the Zamals, the Zamal Kalitè Poivré looks killer. The French Touch offering are intersting. Someone gave me the K1 that they repro'ed, but I've not grown them yet. I'm growing a Mulanje Gold right now so I can't say what I think yet. And then, what's the criteria for removing them?
but man, this list is really sweet
I'm not sure what you're asking... what is worthy for you, for me, for us? I'm interested in the Zamals, the Zamal Kalitè Poivré looks killer. The French Touch offering are intersting. Someone gave me the K1 that they repro'ed, but I've not grown them yet. I'm growing a Mulanje Gold right now so I can't say what I think yet. And then, what's the criteria for removing them?
but man, this list is really sweet
Thanks for the shout out. It's Mike from East Africa Genes
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Hiya @acespicoli,
the green hornet “Vietnamese tourist hemp”…is that the original Vietnamese black? If yes, would be a REAL gem.
Peace,
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the green hornet “Vietnamese tourist hemp”…is that the original Vietnamese black? If yes, would be a REAL gem.
Peace,
F2F
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The other day I clicked on one of the banner ads here on ICMag, North Coast Genetics, and noticed they have VB.
Vietnamese Black Strain, Viet Black Cannabis Seeds, Vietnam Cannabis Seed, Vietnamese THC Weed
Vietnam Landrace Cannabis Seeds, Vietnamese THC Cannabis, Viet Black Seedbank Seeds
northcoastgenetics.com
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Interesting find @goingrey, devils in the detailsThe other day I clicked on one of the banner ads here on ICMag, North Coast Genetics, and noticed they have VB.
Vietnamese Black Strain, Viet Black Cannabis Seeds, Vietnam Cannabis Seed, Vietnamese THC Weed
Vietnam Landrace Cannabis Seeds, Vietnamese THC Cannabis, Viet Black Seedbank Seeds
wonder the origins of that offering.I’ve only grown crosses so don’t know what they should really look like. What I’ve seen on IG seems much much more NLD than that full flower pic. Who knows…
Peace
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Nam Black is a sativa variety from Dutch Flowers and can be cultivated indoors (where the plants will need a flowering time of ±70 days) and outdoors. Dutch Flowers' Nam Black is a THC dominant variety and is/was never available as feminized seeds.
Dutch Flowers' Nam Black Description
I had the good fortune to get some VietNamese (aka Nam Black) seeds to grow out. These babies are pure SATIVA:
Seeds were soaked in H20 overnight. Most sprouted in 24 hours. 100% germination. Put in Organic Soil under 120 watts fluros. Vegged 5 weeks. Very distinct LONG Sativa leaves, Lime Green color. Plants develop into drooping umbrella form. Under HID's, plants STRETCH! Mine ended up at 2 1/2 - 3 1/2' in 3 gallon pots. Very branchy. Two phenotypes: One taller, leafier, more branching; the other shorter but heavier flowering, especially on the main stem. Fluffy white pistils. Plants start "putting on the weight" after 5 weeks. Final time 9 - 11 weeks.
Final product is "old time Sativa". Fruity Mango flavor. High is super Trippy Sativa like weed from the 70's. High can bring on paranoia, racing heart beat and hallucinations for those not used to it. Not for light weight smokers!!!!! This stuff is EXACTLY what I remember was around during the 70"s. You can almost hear the whoomp-whoomp of the Nam choppers. A great outdoors "Summer Day smoke". Just don't smoke it before your landlord or Mom comes by.... Hehehhehehe....
A 10 in my book! Sensi
These were from AF who asked me to test em.
These babies ARE NOT your typical Seed Bank seeds. They're pure Sativa, so they need tons of light, and patience. HOWEVER... for those willing to wait the 10 or so weeks, or have access to outdoor fields, its the real thing.
Indoors during the last few weeks you really need to use an extra fan, cause these babies will suck up water! You aint gonna over water these girls - they just pass it thru their huge Sativa leaves. Genetics for the Mecong Delta...
The high is exactly like the stuff I remember from the mid 70's. I recall some "body bag" weed (don't ask)that had a similar high: every puff took ya to another level, and there was this hum or buzz sound-noise in your head! Best smoked with a good friend at your side, if ya know what I mean. Odds are maybe one of you won't freak, hehehhe...
Yup, right up there with the old Columbian, Thai, and Panama stuff.
If you're into SCROG, these are it - very branchy and a million bud sites. Sensi
Nam F1 (Vietnamese sativa hybrid, aka Vietnam Black, aka NAM weed) -Original F1 cross: -Male Northern Vietnam/China Boarder (indica influence) -Female Southern Vietnam outskirts of Saigon (truebreeding pure Sativa NAM) Breeder's description: Originating from Vietnamese genetics brought back to North America in 77, she's an extremely potent exotic sativa. NOT RECOMMENDED FOR MEDICIAL USERS: usually resulting in shortness of breath, difficulty breathing, raised blood pressure, leans towards paranoia. Her sweet tropical ripe mango scent and sickly sweet taste will speak for itself. Vigorous strong brancher and top heavy - support recommended. A very heavy yield compensates for a longer flowering period. Indoor Specs: Flowering time: 9+ weeks, Height 150 cm, Yield: 1+ gm/watt Original Auction Description
here's my experience with the Nam:
Can you find good Mom's from 10 seeds? Most definitely! I had 10 for 10 germ, and btw, it was definitely one of the fastest germinating strains I've run across in years.
I ended up with 6 females, 4 males. Of the 6 females, I kept 3 with the best flowering characteristics, due to space limitations.
There are 2 phenotypes: One produces more bud sites early on, close to the main stem, and is less leafy. The other is leafier, more branchy, but produces bigger buds later on, particularly from side shoots. Either one is most suited to scrog - there's lots of stretching and branching. ( I went bush style route to "test' the strain, and they ended up stretching 4x initial 12/12 height!) I have one Mom that probably could have filled a small screen all by itself! (May have pics soon...) This is a low odor strain: little odor early on, later during heavy flowering a very subdued Mango odor. Being an almost pure Sativa, don't expect heavy "frost trichomes", but dont let that fool ya - this baby builds up the thc levels. High is rocket up, visual trippy. Takes a bit to "get yer bearings" if you're not used to Sat highs, hehehehe.. I would suggest a minimum of 400 as it likes to just keep on stretching and making more and more buds, so light penetration is the thing. Like I said, the perfect Scrog plant. Fert requirement is nominal, I would suggest more N early on and back off the N later on to keep the stretch down. This is a 10 to 12 week plant, so don't be choppin her down at 50 days! Sensi
Questions on Nam Black:
1. How uniform is it? How are the odds of getting a really nice mom (and dad) out of 10 ?
2. What planting density do you recommend in scrog for this plant. The plant in the pics covered how much space when flowered with no veg time in the chamber? I'm trying to get a feel for the timing/density with this strain for the set-up AF is building right now (2'wx4'lx4'h cabinet, 400hps on a linear mover, water-cooled light).
3. How strong is the odor? Anything in particular to be aware of? Any unusual nute preferences?
Short version:
1. very uniform. 4 to 6 females from 10.
2. 3 plants/ft2, 7.8 ft2, easy to time flush.
3. strong pungent, but easily manageable. Impatience = beware.
Long version:
1. She's very uniform in regards to potency, height, leaf structure, bud structure, and most general flowering givens with a rare exception. The main difference in phenotypes I've noticed from the norm are the odd "nothing but bud" single donkey dick like individuals, usually identified by the short, somewhat squat and bushy veg appearance (SOG) nearly butt naked when fully mature. Of the 10 from the above picture, 6 were males, 4 were females. Of the 4 females, 3 were very identical in appearance and in performance (ie.. strong branching, uniform tight internodal spacing, tall, water guzzling vigorous growth,) all great flowering prospects. I've made the effort to clone and keep all 3 mums as new additions in the veg room, for future cloning. The remaining female is the odd "nothing but bud" pheno, which btw, is looking really nice even scrogged right now. I'll try to post a picture of this pheno so you can easily spot it, as soon as reasonably possible. The fathers were all very uniform, though I didn't spend enough time with the males to able to give you a fair and more in depth description. So, to answer your question, ... even with my bad luck, I've managed to secure 3 outstanding ScrOG mums, even faced in a low fem ratio predicament. You should end up with 4-6 uniform mothers to painfully choose from, out of 10.....
2. Given a standard basic flat horizontal scrog, with the screen set 12" above the medium : 3 plants per ft2 works well, done only with MATURE clones. The ones in the pics covered 100% of the available 7.8 ft2 canopy planted at a density of 3 plants per ft2, with absolutely NO veg time in the chamber (done with 6" single topped clones). The buds ranged from 2-18 inches long with the average bud measuring between 8-12 inches long. The larger the plant at induction, the more likely you'll get away with using fewer plants, i.e.... additional veg time. Your friend may want to take into consideration the ventilation requirements which may present themselves amist growing in such a dense bud canopy. His 4x2 space gives the perfect opportunity to slide out the centre 24" module which leaves just enough space to confortably train inside the cabinet, a great opportunity to save work and training time, and of course, taking advantage of vertical screens ect...Done properly, your friend's 400W water cooled light should produce an abundance of outstanding buds on the heavy side. Timing should be easy with an overcrowded excessive amount of shoots "that you have to clip away!" that should begin to rise when they begin to bulk in the 6th week. The mimum reccommended finishing time is 9-10 weeks.
3. The scent is very strong, but not enough to worry about. I've found that all will exhibit this trait fairly well, though I wouldn't say the smell isn't as overly intense like many of the "skunk" varieties avail. Nothing to lose sleep over. But, be aware of premature flowering (12/12 induction "pre"- alternating phyllotaxy ), which is EASIEST trigger for hermaphrodism. NEVER induce flowering until alternating phyllotaxy. Can seem forever on a near pure sativa, .... but a mistake unfortunately made by many, myself included. Further veg time followed by re-flowering always proves that the trigger is environmental rather than genetic, at least with this strain. As for nutes, I feel it's one of the most vigorous plant I've ever grown, very hardy and forgiving. It's done well in the past using dirt bio, dirt chem, dirtless hydro, and looks very promising in DWC hydro and DWC aquaponics "so far" (even for a hydro-illiterate, like me) LOL. You should easily excell my efforts with your hydro experience I feel that most ppl will consider her a waterhog, and hardy and tolerant (nominal req's for survival, at the same time it handles force feeding well). Overall, an easy plant to grow and evolved, well,... ideally for scrog.... Ultimate
Donated by Anonymous (check Private Breeders Stock) Heritage: ---------- Nam F1 (Vietnamese sativa hybrid, aka Vietnam Black, aka NAMweed) -Original F1 cross: -Male Northern Vietnam/China Boarder (indica influence) -Female Southern Vietnam outskirts of Saigon (truebreeding pure Sativa NAM) Breeder's description: --------------------- Originating from Vietnamese genetics brought back to North America in 77, she's an extremely potent exotic sativa. NOT RECOMMENDED FOR MEDICIAL USERS: usually resulting in shortness of breath,
difficulty breathing, raised blood pressure, leans towards paranoia. Her sweet tropical ripe mango scent and sickly sweet taste will speak for itself. Vigorous strong brancher and top heavy - support recommended. A very heavy yield compensates for a longer flowering period. Indoor
Specs: Flowering time: 9+ weeks, Height 150 cm, Yield: 1+ gm/watt
Indoors, these can finish faster and can be tricked. Outdoors in Northern Humboldt with straight VB out near Redding area. The record so far is 12lbs. That's good buds in 100gal grow bags, custom soil and done Sept-Oct. and that's taken to full term. Smoke this stuff and hang on for the trippy ride.
From Billygoat
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Much love, spicoli. This is very much needed as these days we are seeing a genetic genocide from these large farms popping thousands of seeds and only selecting a few keepers for production and to pollinate hype cuts, with no real preservation
Things I haven't been seeing around lately are:
Cabecca De Negra
Mauritius
Angola
Ghana
Gambia
Senegal
Zambian
Ecuadorian
Aruba
Gypsy Thai Stick
Red Thai (RSC)
Gypsy Zamal
I would vote for Green Hornet, Afropips, CBG, USC, Cryptic, Blue Hemp, and French Touch as sources of the purest and rarest landrace genetics and as such take priority. But thats just me.
Impressive list.
Things I haven't been seeing around lately are:
Cabecca De Negra
Mauritius
Angola
Ghana
Gambia
Senegal
Zambian
Ecuadorian
Aruba
Gypsy Thai Stick
Red Thai (RSC)
Gypsy Zamal
I would vote for Green Hornet, Afropips, CBG, USC, Cryptic, Blue Hemp, and French Touch as sources of the purest and rarest landrace genetics and as such take priority. But thats just me.
Impressive list.
