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coco and yes, brown spots

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Now in this case, that looks like overfert.

The 2nd and 4th in the row of pictures could be spider mites or thrips. I thought I was feeding too much nitrogen because tips looked burnt, but not nearly that bad.

I had both, and had to check a few leaves from bad area, under a usb microscope close up. If the you can see some color in a mite with like 4 hairs pointed forward, probably spider mite. I forget what thrips looked like, but they will breed in the soil or coco.

I the are white or almost transparent they would be broad mites. They do not cause burnt looking leaves. They cause twisted growth of top leaves, and almost all growth stops.

Now for having too much nitrogen in your growing mediums or soil. The plant will have like an overall DARK green look and have delayed maturity. Due to Nitrogen being involved in vegetative growth, to much nitrogen will result in tall plants with weak stems. New growth will be very lively and plant transpiration will be high, but not always. Nitrogen toxicity can be seen when there are very very dry conditions almost as if there was a drought, which may show a burning effect. If you give your plants ammonium based nutrients they may show NH4+ toxicity, which will show a smaller plant growth and lesions that occur on stems and roots, leaf margins that will roll downward. Also the big fan leaves will have “the claw” look. The tips will point down but the leaves will stay up as if when you bend your fingers downwards. Leaves can be twisted when growing… mainly new growths. Roots will be under developed along with the slowing of flowering. Yields will be decreased, because to much nitrogen in early stages of flowering slows down bud growth. Water uptake is slowing down from the vascular breakdown of the plants as well. Too much potassium and nitrogen will lock out calcium as well.
 

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And same plant after full dose cal mag along with basic nutes no more yellow tips no more deficiency.
Overfeed with tap water 140 ppm I don't think its possible.
 

maimunji

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I can't remember was before 2 years in peat most compost. But I have same bottle of cal mag and full dose over my tap is 450 ppm 0.9 ec + base nutes around 400 ppm = 900 ppm 1.9 e.c. But this was my first indoor grow and I really don't know what I doing. Now I feed 1.2-1.3-1.4 in coco and drop cal mag forever I hope. Everything is good now.
Thanks for all this great people in this site they help me a lot much respect.
 

maimunji

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I noticed you use canna coco nutes. I start to think they lack on something micro elements don't know which maybe zinc or iron or sulphur or calcium but I have same deficiency previous grow in coco with one plant and nothing help me only cal mag again full dose.
 
I am not using canna coco nutes. I am using GH micro/bloom mix to a certain npk ratio. Perhaps in doing so I am under-dosing the micro when lowering the overall EC.
 
I am using gh micro + bloom @ 8/mL gallon each. In addition, 1/8 teaspoon of epsom per gallon and sulfuric acid for pH down. This gives me an approx. ratio of

N 129
P 53
K 102
Mg 46
Ca 129
S 50
Fe 2.59
B ?
Co 0.012
Cu ?
Mn 1.29
Mo 0.020
Zn ?
 
Of note is I have not used that full 8ml of each dosage. I have been hanging around @ 6 ml/gal of each leaving me around 1.1 EC prior to tap, 1.4 EC including my tap.
 

Acquitted

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Did you figure it out yet? I thought mine had halted well and also spoke too soon. I'm not seeing any brown spots on my new crop, and I've harvested the ones I was having the problems with, but I'm still looking for the cause just case.
 

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