Theres something to be said about holding on to things you like.Pretty early flowering yes. Hes been working it for a very long time. I really enjoy his stuff, especially the mountain gold
Theres something to be said about holding on to things you like.Pretty early flowering yes. Hes been working it for a very long time. I really enjoy his stuff, especially the mountain gold
She likes her new pot for sure. I just got back from being away for 2 days and she's ready to give me more babies alreadyWow thats some serious vigor you got going on there!
Good looking girl!
Whats she smell like?
Thanks for sharing!
I am sorry for your pessimism. Have heart, there are true Mexican strains out there. They probably won't be at your neighborhood seed chucker's but they are around. Example: I was given a strain called Huixtepec from that town on the border of Oaxaca that is exceptional. Beautiful taste, soaring high and a damned pretty plant.I don't want to be a downer but my instinct tells me that most of what we consider Mexican landrace is pretty much gone.
I don't know if people realize that just because something was collected at a certain place; like lets say Oaxaca, that's suddenly that old Mexican classic.
I see the same shit play out here in Colombia with things like lets say a 'Corinto'. Just because some fool acquired a handfull of god knows what they proclaim they've discovered a landrace.
A landrace that apparently survived through time being grown surrounded by hundreds if not thousands of commercial greenhouse growers pushing fast hybrids. Nevermind that most people had never even heard of it or these places until the last 2-3 years. They know who they are and they continue to hang on my every word the parasites but I digress...
In reference to Mexico I'm not sure if its just greed and profiteering from the person or outfit offering that or just willfull ignorance on the part of the buyer, trader, grower and/or breeder.
I think its a bit of both in equal shares, the common denominator being greed and prestige.
Ive felt this way for years (call me a pessimist) but understanding as much as one can about the speed and size at which Mexican agriculture works and changes with time wether it be legal or illegal tells me that finding a continuous uninterrupted line or population of Mexican landrace or heirloum is quite impossible.
Unless of course a family, group or even an individual has taken to the task of conserving these genetics for at least the last 30-50 years. Unlikely right?
But Mexico is huge, like they say "como Mexico no hay dos" so one never knows.
What I do know is that one single source showing up with basically every famous Mexican variety ever mentioned all in one shot is most likely BS.
The worst part is that the pollen chucker(s) that used these unverified genetics making any possible, marketable cross they could, give less of a FLICK about the authenticity and provenance of these genetics.
Much less the broker and much less the end grower who willingly falls for it and starts breeding with it, who is so far from the birth of the lie that he feels quite innocent and justifies himself with the whole "that's what they told me" routine .
Ive been exposed to and have reached out to indigenous Oaxacan growers in Mexico and even THEY don't have it so...
I'd say if you wan't a true background (at least late 80's-90's) talk to retired military or cartel personal everything prior to that is pretty much lost to history from what I can gather.
I hope I'm wrong!
PS this is just one mans opinion mind you.
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ZUMPAHUACAN, Edomex., 7 de octubre 2016I don't want to be a downer but my insinct tells me that most of what we consider Mexican landrace is pretty much gone.
I don't know if people realize that just because something was collected at a certain place; like lets say Oaxaca, that its suddenly that old Mexican classic.
I see the same shit play out here in Colombia with things like lets say a 'Corinto'. Just because some fool acquired a handfull of god knows what they proclaim they've discovered a landrace.
A landrace that apparently survived through time being grown surrounded by hundreds if not thousands of commercial greenhouse growers pushing fast hybrids. Nevermind that most people had never even heard of it or these places until the last 2-3 years. They know who they are and they continue to hang on my every word the parasites but I digress...
In reference to Mexico i'm not sure if its just greed and profiteering from the person or outfit offering that or just willfull ignorance on part of the buyer, trader, grower and/or breeder.
I think its a bit of both in equal shares, the common denominator being greed and prestige.
Ive felt this way for years (call me a pessimist) but understanding as much as one can about the speed and size at which Mexican agriculture works and changes with time wether it be legal or illegal tells me that finding a continuous uninterrupted line or population of Mexican landrace or heirloum is quite impossible.
Unless of course a family, group or even an individual has taken to the task of conserving these genetics for at least the last 30-50 years. Unlikely right?
But Mexico is huge, like they say "como Mexico no hay dos" so one never knows.
What I do know is that one single source showing up with basically every famous Mexican variety ever mentioned all in one shot is most likely BS.
The worst part is that the pollen chucker(s) that used these unverified genetics making any possible, marketable cross they could, give less of a FLICK about the authenticity and provenance of these genetics.
Much less the broker and much less the end grower who willingly falls for it and starts breeding with it, whos so far from the birth of the lie that he feels quite innocent and justifies himself with the whole "thats what they told me" routine.
Ive been exposed to and have reached out to indigenous Oaxacan growers in Mexico and even THEY don't have it so...
I'd say if you wan't a true background (at least late 80's-90's) talk to retired military or cartel personal everything prior to that is pretty much lost to history from what I can gather.
Hope i'm wrong!
PS this is just one mans opinion mind you.
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Problem solvedGreat picture.Except for the militant looking dude.
Doesn't look like a lot of hash plant genes in that field. So there's hope!
Keep searching, keep making seeds, and keep sharing.
@Lugo have you dealt with this seedbank yet? They have a mango biche, supposedly a repro of Cannabiogens. Just wanted to ask since were on the subject of colombians
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Colombian Mango Biche - Humboldt CSI
Colombian Mango Biche ~ Colombian Mango Biche IBL An open […]humboldtcsi.com
No sir, actually ive never really purchased seeds and honestly i'd be hesitant to but ive seen the Cannabiogen MB and have had friends grow it in Spain and although it definetely is a gorgeous example ive never heard people rave about the high itself.
Mine went longer than 70 days for sure.Yeah theres a lot of people on here that swear by them but no grow reports. Also i found online its a 70 day flower. More hype i guess
Just the most sexy of lines...
I've chucked another 3 on to germ because I can't seem to countenance doing a grow without them, even though I was going to skip them this round. Nope, I need my snakes in the jar.There's one popping up already so they're still vigorous after a few years in the fridge.
Anyway, to get back on topic, if the coastal seed co line is anything like the red snake it will be worth running. I can't see how this pairing could go wrong really, it's two classic sativa lines with a great combined high.
I've read that the Oax x Columbian run 13-15 weeks flowering, which makes more sense than 70 days. I have a thread on trying to do a seed increase on this strain in a ridiculously small indoor space (all that's available for now)I think ill pop some of the Oax x Colo after seeing this.
Currently running Oaxacan IBL from Heritage. 2 identical females, and one male which looks much different, vine like, slow growing, extremely thin leaves.
The two females look very highland, short stature, narrow leaves but not on the extreme end of the scale.
The pair of Oax Females
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The male
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Using strawberry pots to test out, and thats a male Jacks Cleaner 2 in the lil pot I will pollinate a few branches with simce the Oax male is so slow, i want to have a cut in case these are nice plants.
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And this is Big Sur Holy Weed x COLOMBIAN from Coastal. Male and female. She smells like a sativa, quite squat plant though, i expected lots of vertical action. Has what i describe as
Gunpowder on the nose
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Looks the Oax male leaves are beginning to match the females im width
No I did not retire.From the research ive found the breeder retired years ago but they still have seeds available at several banks. Maybe its just old stock?
Nice! Ill make room for them next. I just started 7 Big Bad Wolf from CSI (chem 91 x chem D). Anyone in the states wanting to.try CSI order direct, you'll get your money worth for sure. Throw in a request for freebies, especially 1st time ordering, ill bet you get it or something similar to what you ask for.I've read that the Oax x Columbian run 13-15 weeks flowering, which makes more sense than 70 days. I have a thread on trying to do a seed increase on this strain in a ridiculously small indoor space (all that's available for now)
That's why I show my work and let people know exactly what it is.I won't buy a puppy without at least seeing the parents.
But theres a 'puppy mill' mentality going around...lots of Labradoodles and Pugweillers![]()