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"Clone Burger" Anyone ?

mriko

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US body backs sale of cloned food

Meat and milk from cloned animals is safe for human consumption, the US food regulator said in a draft ruling
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The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) ruled that cloned cattle, pigs and goats produced food "as safe as the food we eat every day".

The recommendation, coming after a five-year study, is a major step towards allowing food from animals onto US supermarket shelves.

A public consultation period will take place before final approval is given.

Opponents say a majority of US consumers are against animal cloning.

The FDA study examined meat and milk products from cattle, pigs and goats, but not sheep.

It concluded that the cloned animals produced food products virtually indistinguishable from more traditional offerings.

The agency suggested that the results meant it would be unlikely to recommend placing special labels on food from cloned animals.

A final decision on labelling would not be taken until the end of the public consultation period due to begin soon, an FDA official said.

'Bad decision'

Cloned animals are developed when cells are removed from a fertilised embryo and encouraged to develop into duplicate embryos with identical DNA.

A sheep, Dolly, was the first animal successfully cloned, in 1996.

"No unique risks for human food consumption were identified in cattle, swine or goat clones," the FDA said.

It recommended no special safeguards on food produced from cloned animals.

But consumer groups were less keen on the ruling, which could see the US become the first country to allow cloned food products into the food supply.

Carol Foreman, of the Consumer Federation of America, described the ruling as potentially "a very bad decision".

"We are urging people to write to the FDA, to members of Congress, to urge them to tell the FDA to back off," she told the AFP news agency.

Another group, the International Dairy Food Association, appeared cautious. "Animal cloning is a relatively new technology, and it's important that we have a thorough, deliberative dialogue," the group said in a statement.

Previous scientific studies have come to conclusions similar to those of the FDA.

from BBC

One more obvious demonstration of FDA's uglyness ?

Irie !
 

Nikijad4210

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I read about this yesterday, and I have to admit, for some reason which I'm not quite positive of, this deeply disturbs me.....
 
M

Mr. Nevermind

Nikijad4210 said:
I read about this yesterday, and I have to admit, for some reason which I'm not quite positive of, this deeply disturbs me.....


Cloned meat shouldnt disturb you any more than the Hormone injected disease ridden animals we are fed today. Whats disturbing is that we feed our livestock the ground up dead parts of sick animals and we eat that all day long. so cloned meat shouldnt bother you any more than what you have been eating for years. if you knew of how nasty the food was that we have been eating for years then cloned meat should be a welcome change



Nevermind
 
J

Jam Master Jaco

I hope I'm not the only person excited about this! Can you say two for the price of one?! :woohoo:
 

robobond

Future Psychopharmacologist
Personally I dont see cloned meat any more harmful then regular meat. And theres no evidence to say otherwise so why not.
 

NOKUY

Active member
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I read about this too, and unless they plan to start cloning wild game and seafood it won't affect me.

I like to know where my meat comes from ..plus taste and nutrition are far superior.

Somewhere down the road they are gonna find out that this is a seriously bad idea.
 

9Lives

three for playing, three for straying, and three f
Veteran
Lol...against cloned animals...and eating GMO crops without even knowing it. Well that's just dumb..
 
Mr. Nevermind said:
Cloned meat shouldnt disturb you any more than the Hormone injected disease ridden animals we are fed today. Whats disturbing is that we feed our livestock the ground up dead parts of sick animals and we eat that all day long. so cloned meat shouldnt bother you any more than what you have been eating for years. if you knew of how nasty the food was that we have been eating for years then cloned meat should be a welcome change



Nevermind



Why would they feed or care for the cloned animals any different? Now instead of eating hormone injected desease ridden meat your consuming cloned hormone injected desease ridden meat.

What is wrong with two cow fucking and creating future-meat? How could cloning speed up the process that much? All cows, cloned or not, still need to grow bigger in order to be harvested. Also, if all these cows were genetically identicle, would all beef then start to taste the same?
 
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robobond

Future Psychopharmacologist
Homer J Simpson said:
Why would they feed or care for the cloned animals any different? Now instead of eating hormone injected desease ridden meat your consuming cloned hormone injected desease ridden meat.

What is wrong with two cow fucking and creating future-meat? How could cloning speed up the process that much? All cows, cloned or not, still need to grow bigger in order to be harvested. Also, if all these cows were genetically identicle, would all beef then start to taste the same?

It still depends on the fat content and the cut of beef that determines the difference. I can see certain breeds being cloned for a certain fat content but there are enviromental differences that will change the quality of the meat. They have some cows in japan that the massage all day I think its called kobe beef. Anyways it sell for like 100 a lb or something like that.
 
I agree that, while I'm not too keen on cloned meat, it's the least of our worries. I think we need to worry more about genetically altered food, the kind with unknown health effects and created by invading an organism's DNA with a virus fused with other organisms' DNA. They spread their bastardized genes uncontrollably (wind pollination) and are backed by patent laws that can literally rob a farmer of their land for the "crime" of the unknowing cross pollination of their crops.

I could go on and on about this, but I better not. Though the documentary The Future of Food has great info on the subject.
 

Haps

stone fool
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Hehehe, I wondered how this community would react - we know clones in plants are no problem, don't we?, This is gonna be the norm in a few years, fighting it is just beating your head against a tree. I fail to see the problem with cloning, except my personal clones keep dying, shoulda taken cuts when I was younger.
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M

Mr. Nevermind

We smoke cloned weed without a problem so i dotn see the issue with cloned meat. Can be cool with one cloned living organism and not th other. Its the same thing






Nevermind
 

Grat3fulh3ad

The Voice of Reason
Veteran
Smoking cloned buds and worrying about cloned meat... :chin:
I think it is a fine idea... Pick and choose the best representitaves with the most desirable qualities, and copy the hell out of them... Soon there'll be 'elite' beef passed around... "Hey man.... can you get me a clone of that super brangus..." There'll be people whining because they can't get any good clones... There'll be Schiesters selling 'knock off cattle'...
 

killa-bud

Active member
Veteran
how is this bad?? can sovle world hunger,you people have wraped veiws on everything,somethings its fine to play "god" but others that can actully help,it disturbs you,go figuer
 

mriko

Green Mujaheed
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can sovle world hunger

oh please, come on, not this old same trick about giving food to everyone. This is total bullshit really. there's already plenty enough for everyone on this earth to eat correctly.
Starving countries are only the result of corruption and geopolitics.

Irie !
 
How can you folks compare cloned plants to cloned animals?....to clone a plant I cut cut off a piece of the main stalk and plant...nothing unnatural about it...

But to create a test-tube animal from a stem cell in a lab....pretty damn unnatural to me...this idea of eating clone meat hasn't even been tested......we'll be the test subjects.....if there are any side-effects, it's us who are going to feel it.

I don't like it one bit...
 

diggle

Member
Hey c'mon! The FDA isn't some conduit funneling poorly tested goods into our food and drug supply! It acts in the public's best interest! Always!
It is NOT in the pocket of the huge food and drug companies it is supposed to oversee, no way, no how, no siree! It's not like the FDA has ever been pressured into approving certain medications, only to have them kill hundreds once they reach the open market! THAT never happened....

Really, what's the motivation behind all of this? It's not as if we don't have enough food, and its not as if clones are some magical source of food that we don't have to feed/shelter/raise, etc just like any animal. Big meat companies have seen a way to cut some costs here, and they are shaping the legislation to fit their new business model. It's about money, profit, and nothing else.
 
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