i havent a clue. i am 1 for like 50. i have been using soil with a powder root stim. my method is wrong. any wisedom would not be wasted. thanks~led
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cloaning help please
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you too, eh?!?!?
you too, eh?!?!?
I hear ya zep. I'm in the same boat. I've tried the aerocloner, as well as soil. I'm going to try water cloning today as my last hope with this particular Afghani crop. Good luck bud.
On a side note...I've noticed that there are a couple different active ingredients, depending on what rooting powder you buy. Right now, I have Gardentech's Rootone which has Naptheleneacetamide and thiram as it's active ingredients(although I've seen others with a different active ingredient). Any pointers as to which active ingredient is better? Thanks
cook
you too, eh?!?!?
I hear ya zep. I'm in the same boat. I've tried the aerocloner, as well as soil. I'm going to try water cloning today as my last hope with this particular Afghani crop. Good luck bud.
On a side note...I've noticed that there are a couple different active ingredients, depending on what rooting powder you buy. Right now, I have Gardentech's Rootone which has Naptheleneacetamide and thiram as it's active ingredients(although I've seen others with a different active ingredient). Any pointers as to which active ingredient is better? Thanks
cook
Captain Canibus
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Hey guys, there was a good post on here about cloning. Basically, the clones are placed in a cup with water and perlite. The perlite floots and supports the clone in the water. Very simple and cheaper than the aerocloner I bought. Use some rooting gel and results should appear in 2 weeks.
I got roots appearing off a flowering WW in 10 days.
I got roots appearing off a flowering WW in 10 days.
G
Guest
Here is how I would do it.
Here is how I would do it.
Hello,
Here is how I would do it if I was going to clone.
Here is how I would do it.
Hello,
Here is how I would do it if I was going to clone.
- Prepare a PH balanced tub of water
- Figure out which spots you are going to cut
- Cut the clones 1/2 to 1 inch longer than needed
- Place into the tub of water
- With a sharp scalpel make a 45 degree angle cut at the proper length of the clipping (all under water)
- Take your rapid rooter, that has been soaking in a seperate tub of PH balanced water with a little liquid root stimulator
- Place it in the tub with the prepared clipping, insert the clipping into the rapid rooter
- Place in an apropriate sized container
- Follow through with standard levels of light, humidity, and temp.
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By keeping it under water for most of the process you greatly reduce the risks of air clogging the clippings ability to absorb and liquids.
Just keep the rapid rooters covered, in order to give the roots darkness, and make sure that the moisture levels are well maintained.
I would keep them in an altered aquarium and partially cover the top with plastic wrap to control the humidity levels. There are much more advanced ways but this way also works.
Hope this helps.
Peace
There are aproximately 49,036 ways to clone, but as captain cannabis said, there's a good cloning thread here that explains a way that should be very easy...
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Thing_Fish_
Member
-Yea.. -Clonin's the stick in my spokes too. -I got everything elce dialed in pretty good but Im goin nuts growin roots! -Im gonna make me a bubbler tomorow. -Im stickin 8 (if they fit) -3 inch net pots threw the lid of a 5 gal bucket and sinkin a bubblin thing to the bottom of it. -Im not really hip on bubblin but I guess 6.4 is a good ph to try. -Its what I do for the rest of my system. -My mothers in coco chor and I flower my clones aero. -Ive never bubbled before but I thnk Id do best to just stick the cutting rite into the gro rocks bein that a rockwool cube would probably get in the way of the bubbles that are tryin to get at my root aeria. -A peice of aluminum foil with a hole poked threw it would probably hold the cutting upright and keep the root zone dark. -I'l let you know how it came out!
Thing_Fish_
Member
-Wow ! -I just spent the mornin lookin for this thread! -I been in 12 diferent forums! -Big time short term memory loss. -No biggy tho. --I didnt get started yet but I was just figurin that Im gonna set my ph at 6.4. -Its where the rest of my systems at and I was figrin that its probably pretty good for root promotion too. -I read the thread about the perlite and it IS excelent but I got all the stuff to do this bubbler so here I go! -Hey! -If anyone reads this and has any sugestions about my ph or anything before I fill it and put cuttings in it please writem! -Im gonna go put it together and then Ill check back here before I run it. -I hope someone picks this up but if not Im gonna run my ph at 6.4. --Should I post this on another thread? Im not trying to get off topic. -Ill check bach in a whle.
Thing_Fish_
Member
-I had company all friday and today but I did manage to (between company) make my bubbler. -I got an air stome instead of tubeing with holes. -I found an old spakle top to fit on mt buket. A paint top wouldnt do because of the pouring spout but a 5 gal spakle lid works great! -You just fallow around it with your 3 inch hole saw about a quarter inch from each other to fit 7 and then put one in the middle to make 8. -Anyhow- Im gonna fill my net pots and take some cuttings tomorow morning. -Is anybody interested? -Should I post my progress?
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Ah yes... cloning... While I am no cloning guru I did finally get a great method down that requires no construction, bubblers, perlite or voodoo. 
Things I use...
Peat pellets [these are available at your local mart. 72 to a pack.
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Clean, sharp Scissors
cold water in a nice glass.
Poker of some sort. (I use a chopstick)
Rooting compound. (I use Schultz Take Root®)
Spacious Tupperware container with clear lid. (This will depend on the number of clones you are going to cut.)
Heating pad.
Good selection of music.
Soak yer pellets in tap water with a miniscule amount of Superthrive® added to the mix. They will swell considerably and will take about 10 minutes or so to do it. While they are swelling up, take your glass of cold water, scissors, music and rooting compound. and head for the donors. Find the branches you want to trim from, clip em good and dunk em in the cold water. At this point it doesnt matter the angle as you will be cutting them once more. Stop and dance around, listen to the music and tell your plants you love them. Now back to work...
Assemble your pellets in the tupperware and commence to poking holes in the already prepoked holes. I like to put a fairly deep hole in em. Almost to the bottom. Select your cutting and decide how long you want it. Make the final cut on a 45° angle, dip the tip in the rooting compound and pop it in the pellet of choice. Repeat as necessary. Once the tupperware is full, I like to go in and squezze out excess water. This will ensure:
A) your clones dont drown (Because that sucks!!!)
and
B) the pellet fits snugly round your cutting.
Wish your babies luck, close the lid and put em on the heating pad set to low. Place under fluoros about a foot away.
I cant say how long this'll take. Anywhere from 5 to 50 days, depending. I leave em in there til they either root or die.
Hope that helps!!!!
Things I use...
Peat pellets [these are available at your local mart. 72 to a pack.
Click for Larger Image
Clean, sharp Scissors
cold water in a nice glass.
Poker of some sort. (I use a chopstick)
Rooting compound. (I use Schultz Take Root®)
Spacious Tupperware container with clear lid. (This will depend on the number of clones you are going to cut.)
Heating pad.
Good selection of music.
Soak yer pellets in tap water with a miniscule amount of Superthrive® added to the mix. They will swell considerably and will take about 10 minutes or so to do it. While they are swelling up, take your glass of cold water, scissors, music and rooting compound. and head for the donors. Find the branches you want to trim from, clip em good and dunk em in the cold water. At this point it doesnt matter the angle as you will be cutting them once more. Stop and dance around, listen to the music and tell your plants you love them. Now back to work...
Assemble your pellets in the tupperware and commence to poking holes in the already prepoked holes. I like to put a fairly deep hole in em. Almost to the bottom. Select your cutting and decide how long you want it. Make the final cut on a 45° angle, dip the tip in the rooting compound and pop it in the pellet of choice. Repeat as necessary. Once the tupperware is full, I like to go in and squezze out excess water. This will ensure:
A) your clones dont drown (Because that sucks!!!)
and
B) the pellet fits snugly round your cutting.
Wish your babies luck, close the lid and put em on the heating pad set to low. Place under fluoros about a foot away.
I cant say how long this'll take. Anywhere from 5 to 50 days, depending. I leave em in there til they either root or die.
Hope that helps!!!!
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headed to nursery to get peat now. thank you so much!
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baccas125
clones
clones
remeber to keep them warm and wet!!!!!!!!!!
clones
remeber to keep them warm and wet!!!!!!!!!!
G
Guest
have had best luck with soil and not keeping the clones in too strong a light for the first 3-4 days. hope this helps.
G
Guest
Stick it in a cup of water and wait. Nothing could be easier and my success rate is 100%.
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SuperToker
Member
Caprichoso said:Stick it in a cup of wate and wait. Nothing could be easier and my success rate is 100%.
do you dip them or anything first? how long do they take to root?
G
Guest
Cuttings in water require no hormone, no humidity dome, and no pH check. Just cut it off the plant and stick it in water and change the water frequently. They do take a little longer to root than other methods of cloning, but with as prolific as mother plants can be, a simple solution was to just set up a multiple generation clone box.
The plant pictured is a bit extreme, having been part of an experiment to see how long roots from a cutting could sit in water before damage occured. I planted them after six weeks with no problems.
Roots usually form in 7 days or so and they can be transplanted to soil in 10-14. I wold think this method would lend itself perfectly to hydro growers, tho I'm not one of those.
This pic shows mom and three generations of daughters.
The plant pictured is a bit extreme, having been part of an experiment to see how long roots from a cutting could sit in water before damage occured. I planted them after six weeks with no problems.
Roots usually form in 7 days or so and they can be transplanted to soil in 10-14. I wold think this method would lend itself perfectly to hydro growers, tho I'm not one of those.
This pic shows mom and three generations of daughters.
Thing_Fish_
Member
Hey Caprichoso! -That is really a sweet tekneek ya got there! -How do you think a clone rooted in this fasson would do if you placed it in a net pot with grow rocks and kept them in a sprinkler type veg system where a sprinkler head constantly sprinkles water and nutes on the suspended roots? -How do y think theyd make out like that?
420KushMaster
Member
they would do real good
Bosshog Diesel
Member
when you can...pick up an ezcloner. theyre the shit. 100% success rate and SUPER easy. one of the best purchases in my room.
G
Guest
Or toss a junk airstone in a tub and punch holes in the lid.
100 site bubble cloner: 3.95 US
PS: Get well soon Zepp! We miss you.
100 site bubble cloner: 3.95 US
PS: Get well soon Zepp! We miss you.
G
Guest
I'm an experienced cloner,but I'll be dammed if sticking a cutting in a glass of water and changing it every day ever worked for me,I must not hold my mouth right when I do it.
