Chicago "Bin Laden" Weed

[tetragrammaton]

I don't think Bin Laden smoked weed.

I don't think that has anything to do with the thread, and you are clearly trolling my posts at this point. If you don't like me that's fine, simply ignore my posts, don't blatantly post in threads I created specifically asking others WITH experience in said subject matter. You are the type of troll that tries to turn my positive day into a negative day. Well, unfortunately for you, I'm not falling for your bait. Find someone else to troll.

 

[moses wellfleet]

I don't think Bin Laden smoked weed.

Holed up in caves in the Hindu Kush mountains for months at a time. Nothing to do, nobody watching. Valleys full of Pakistani land race all around... I dunno what would you do?

 

[Bobby Boucher]

We can purposefully remind each other of what is important in life by trolling one another. It's a buddhist practice.

I'm glad I had a bit of experience to share, because I was also certainly trolling in that light. I TRY to act like a turkey, all the time, just to remind people not to sweat the petty. It works wonders on the right audience.

What I WANTED to say was Rap≠Music, has more in common with ICP or Scream-O, culture industry will eventually kill all of high art and personal integrity, and that particular culture of overt criminality has ruined an entire generation, and taken the lives of people very dear to me.

I am displeased with anybody who chooses to be anything other than human. "Hood rats" "Hard asses" "White boys" "Stoners" "Jocks" "Emos" "Juggalos" etc etc etc... And all the music they listen to.

I'm sure that will buy me a lot of friends here like it has everywhere else.

All alone. No one else. Just me. By myself. Perma-G-stance.

 

[troutman]

I don't think that has anything to do with the thread, and you are clearly trolling my posts at this point. If you don't like me that's fine, simply ignore my posts, don't blatantly post in threads I created specifically asking others WITH experience in said subject matter. You are the type of troll that tries to turn my positive day into a negative day. Well, unfortunately for you, I'm not falling for your bait. Find someone else to troll.

I wasn't trolling. Do you have proof Bin Laden smoked weed?

 

[MAHA KALA]

I am displeased with anybody who chooses to be anything other than human. "Hood rats" "Hard asses" "White boys" "Stoners" "Jocks" "Emos" "Juggalos" etc etc etc... And all the music they listen to.

I'm sure that will buy me a lot of friends here like it has everywhere else.

All alone. No one else. Just me. By myself. Perma-G-stance.

 

[flylowgethigh]

You're not alone Mr. Boucher.

And that is a pretty catchy tune. I've never heard it before, but I like my crippy line better.

Is this rap? The lyrics sure make little sense, but the tune is catchy IMO. They play it on alternative rock stations around here.

https://youtu.be/1V_xRb0x9aw

https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/gorillaz/clinteastwood.html

 

[Bobby Boucher]

My opinion on music shouldn't even count. If was made post industrial age, it's generally made to be sold to a subcategory of people, which automatically disqualifies it from being high art.

The object of art is to embrace one another, not to categorize ourselves, ostracize each other, or apathetically embrace the status quo.

Having said that, gorillaz is a guilty pleasure, sure. I force my eyes shut and voice my self loathing approval. Self loathing and apathy seem to be the main theme of their music, and the cheaper half of me can certainly appreciate that a bit.

 

[Bobby Boucher]

I don't think I stressed it enough, but fuck my opinion. For real. I am an instrumentalist. I listen to classical piano, and classical guitar. That's it. Maybe some reggae come harvest time.

I prefer pop if I'm going to indulge myself. At least it doesn't lie to itself and it's audience about its intentions. But again..

Fuck my opinion. If you think critically enough, there isn't much anything or anyone that cant be picked apart piece by piece until it's just a steaming pile of shit, and I think too much.

 

[tetragrammaton]

lol what happened to the thread? Bobby Boucher, in the OP I specifically stated this thread is not for people who have a dislike of rap music, and kindly asked for trolls to refrain, as I was seeking information, that luckily some could provide. YOU come here throwing around terms some people choose to identify as, and/or have been thrown on them. Why the need to bring up terms such as "emo" and "hoodrat"? No one asked for your personal taste in music, that is not what this thread is about. You just admitted you are a troll. Why are you trolling this now? Do you suffer from a mental illness that is currently left untreated? I'd suggest another forum to spew your hatred and borderline racism. Also, I too am a multi instrumentalist and appreciate all forms of music. I do find it honorable that at least you admit that you like prefer solitude, and I do appreciate you coming in here to inform me that you were born and raised and never "seent" it, but to go on tagents that have nothing to do with anything is uncalled for, and are the type of posts that make ICMAG a negative experience at times.

Also, you state that rap music has more in common with ICP and screamo". ICP's style of rapping is called "horrorcore", it's a subgenre, there are countless "rap/hiphop" subgenre, and ICP were certainly not the first rappers, rap was around long before ICP. If you're referring to screamo by it's actual definition, you would realizie it is a genre of music popular in the early to mid 2000s that was had it's roots based in alternative rock, indie rock, and post pop punk. The vocals at times were "screams" of rage and angst.

There is a swamp here at ICMAG that I feel needs to be drained, as people like you come in and make ICMAG look bad by posting your self admitted trolling, and then go on to completely go off topic into your own personal life and your dislike of rap music, something I clearly disclaimed that this post isn't for anyone who has a dislike and/or hatred of rap music, is racist, or is classist. If you read that, you are clearly trolling, which I kindly asked people to refrain from doing.

This is a thread about people WITH experience in or around Chicago between September 11th, 2001, and 2003, and perhaps afterwards when the single dropped. Luckily three or four members from the area have confirmed there was indeed Bin Laden weed.

This is NOT a thread for your trolling and your likes and dislikes.

 

[flylowgethigh]

Hey Tetra, you got your answer. Same as with crippy, bin laden is just a general term.

Now let us have fun please. I'm going out to smoke what I can of a gooey reefer, and will be back with a much gooder perspective, I hope.

What is that hypnotic sound in that clint eastwood song? I feel like a snake in a basket that has to respond when it plays, LOL.

Helpful tip, high terp real dank chemical smelling Queen's Candy squishes (190) rosin that has to be frozen to have any chance of collecting off parchment.

 

[Bobby Boucher]

Someone asked me a question, which I humbly responded to. As stated, my opinion ain't worth squat, and I don't hold it in very high esteem.

It was a dumbass pandering question, that was bound to get dumbass pandering answers. Fact.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

 

[GOT_BUD?]

Tetra, I'm being sincere here.

You need thicker skin to survive the internet.

 

[OakyJoe]

I wasn't trolling. Do you have proof Bin Laden smoked weed?

cant say much about he was smoking but several sources say he had several cannabis plants around his home in Abbottabad, Pakistan

 

[Hookahhead]

I’m kinda with Tetra on this one, he started a thread in the Strains and Breeding section. He asked a specific question about a possible strain, and asked readers to refrain from derailing the topic. If you don’t have anything useful to contribute to the topic, and it’s not what you’re into, simply move on. I don’t understand why people even bother to click the reply button? There are other sections on this site for random banter. All that being said... I do understand that this is the internet, and that’s wishful thinking at best.

This thread brought back memories of being a young dumb kid. I remember this song vividly, and I was also a “juggalo” in my youth though I certainly don’t identify that way anymore, and haven’t for a long time. I also enjoyed the crippy thread as it’s part of the culture where I live now. Tetras posts have contributed to my experience on the forums in a positive way, the same can’t be said for other posters in this thread. I think we all agree the internet would be better with a lot less trolls, no matter how funny you think you’re being.

P.s. props to you tetra for kicking the habit and returning to your roots.

 

[tetragrammaton]

Tetra, I'm being sincere here.

You need thicker skin to survive the internet.

There are plenty of places to go to on the internet where you could say I need thicker skin, but this is ICMAG and is in my opinion and many others, the ONLY usefull forum that is KNOWN for NOT having BS. I don't want to see this site turn into those other forums.

This USED to be a place where there weren't trolls, or people just ranting. If I wanted to see that, I'd be a member at other forums, but I'm not. I returned to ICMAG only to find out that it changed drastically, and while there are still very valuable old members, and even valuable new members, there are now a bunch of trolls that now destroy threads and get completely off topic. There are plenty of other websites and even sections on this site for that, but not here, and not in this thread or any thread in the Strains and Breeding section.

 

[unclefishstick]

Tetra, I'm being sincere here.

You need thicker skin to survive the internet.

ok, so here's the thing. basically none of the post that are being considered as trolling genuinely rise to being tou violations so you're asking the mods to make a judgement call. and in general i would say the mods prefer a more hand off approach. there have been times in the past where it was a bit more heavy handed and i don't think anyone wants to see that again...


so sorry,the reported post button is not a "make me an internet safe space"...




that said,if you don't have anything useful to contribute than don't,there's a whole sub-forum for nonsense,keep it to the toker's den...

 

[tetragrammaton]

Oh that's great to know!

People can just go in and destroy threads and derail them for fun. Trolling is allowed apparently. I guess it's okay for people to fully admit they are trolling, disregard the OP, directly call the thread a "dumbass question", and fully disclaim they have some sort of disorder.

Well unlike those people, I don't feel the need to go into other peoples threads and insult their posts, or provide useless information.

I'm not the one who needs thick skin, I'm the one who has to tread on eggshells here, because it seems that now ICMAG has a bunch of SJWs, and if I say what I truly want to say, I'd obviously get instantly banned, because I don't hold back ANYWHERE except ICMAG and that is only out of respect for GYPSY.

But I guess now hating on cultures and music and insulting threads is deemed appropriate. I thought a mods job was to clean up threads so they didn't have to be filled with a bunch of BS. Clearly I was wrong.

 

[Sickofmidz]

Big hemp was actually from my home town, Aurora not Chicago, I went to school with lil hemp but he ratted on some of my guys back in the day so I can’t really go asking him questions haha. But back in the day the buds we had floating around was 3/6 (30/60, Reggie), Dro (mid grade, green buds) and Kush (high grade) Some people would claim they had bin laden weed but it was usually just some high grade, what we just called Kush, it could have been OG, Chem, Sour, Haze, didn’t matter if it was fire we just called it Kush. As for the Bin Laden though, I’m pretty sure that was just a hip hop legend.

 

[hottboyeighty6]

This thread is to see if there is/was a strain referred to in Chicago as "Bin Laden" or "Bin Laden weed" during the early 2000s. I'm not sure if it's a ficticious strain from the song of the same name, by Three 6 Mafia from their 2003 album Da Unbreakables, or if it indeed was a real strain (be it a well known strain that was simply marketed as such for shock value, and perhaps to stand out from simply calling it "Afghan Kush" or whatever it really was, but for those of you unfamiliar with the song, it starts out with the following intro from Juicy J. I will however be censoring the N word. :

"Man.... Hey *****, check this shit out: We was up in Chicago, right? With my ***** Big Hemp, y'knowwhatI'msayin? Man, the ***** pass me a blunt, man, like "Smoke this shit, *****! This some of that Bin Laden Weed! Y'all don't know nothing bout this shit down south!" I was all like: "What? What the fuck is Bin Laden Weed?" The man said: "The shit's like three different kinds of weed, man, grown all together." He said that shit some straight killer. Them Chicago ******, man, they named that shit "Bin Laden Weed," man, some straight fire!"

Based on the intro alone, if there is any factual information, it would lead me to believe it's a hybrid of 3 different strains, presumably indica plants from the middle east, based on the title of the song, and Bin Laden being from the middle east, and even though he was Saudi Arabian but later ended up in Afghanistan and Pakistan, so this would further lead me to believe it's some sort of hybrid consisting of plants from this area. Many possible strains come to mind, such as Afghan Kush, Hindu Kush, or any other indica dominant well known strain that is known to have afghan in it.

Throughout the song, each rapper stresses the potency of this "Bin Laden Weed".

In the first verse, DJ Paul raps about how his vision gets blurry, he feels as if he's about to fall asleep, and even questions if he's going to OD because of it's potency.

In the second verse, Juicy J explains that he's smoking "Bin Laden" as a means of relieving his stress caused from falling outs he's had with other rappers that he considers inferior. He also claims that all of his friends in the "hood" have Bin Laden, and that just one puff will make you an "addict".

In verse 3, Lord Infamous says "It's glowing like it's indigo, I smell it through the bag, I'm floatin' like a magic carpet straight from Baghdad". I am unsure what to make of "It's glowing like it's indigo", and I'm not sure if he confused the word indica with indigo, and he passed away so it's not as if I can ask him, but if one were to take it literally, the "glowing" I would presume refers to the ammount of trichomes, and if he truly meant to say indigo, indigo is a rich dark purplish blue, which would lead me to believe that this "strain" was a purple strain. He even goes on to make the bold and potentially controversial statement "This ain't Indonesia, Colombian or Cali man
It's a bio-weapon, straight from the Taliban". That further leads me to believe it's an indica from the middle east, since that is where that horrible group of people are from.

In verse 4, Crunchy Black raps about how he needs his weed and smokes his weed, and also questions if people remember him for introducing them to "Bin Laden Weed". He makes the statement "Get your funds together" leading one to believe that this was sold at a higher price than other strains available at the time in Chicago. His verse is the last verse, and he ends it with the statement "This one blunt action you'll have to smoke and see. Have you choking, falling out with your family" leading one to believe that after just one blunt, you are properly medicated, that the smoke expands in the lungs and makes you caugh, and perhaps could cause family issues. The only "family issue" I could see, in terms of responsibility would perhaps being too stoned to do anything, and cancel your plans, or forget about the things you were supposed to do. This also leads me to believe it's an indica.

The only reason I believe there may be some credibility to this being an actual name going around for a strain that was a 3 way cross of 3 indicas, is that prior to this song, (Three 6 Mafia goes back to 95) they would always refer to the strains they were smoking, even naming Cambodian Red in an early song. Additionally, since then, Juicy J who has gone on to have great success with his solo career is also known for specifically naming strains that he enjoys and smokes in his songs. While they do have songs where they use generic terms such as "bud" "hydro" "loud" "gas" and even just "weed", they have always been known to mention a strain by name if they are rapping about it.

I am not from Chicago which is why I am posting this for information. I could also see it simply being a well known indica that was named "Bin Laden" as I mentioned earlier, for shock value, or for marketing purposes. When the song was released in 2003, 9/11 was still fresh in everyones mind, and drug dealers have been known to sometimes mark their product or name their product after a very controversial figure. For example, sometimes baggies are stamped with pictures of political figures, or people perceived as monsters such as Bin Laden to either A. Marketing or B. Also marketing, but usually as a sign that it's of very higher quality. This can be seen in the black market with all sorts of substances.

I am seeking this information from people who may personally know members of Three 6 Mafia, but more likely, and more importantly, people who lived in Chicago post 9/11 2001 - 2003 and knew what strains and bud was going around, especially in "the hood". Unfortunately in the song, it's not specified what side of Chicago this was popular in.

DISCLAIMER: I kindly ask any possible trolls or haters to refrain from posting anything that is not relevant to my question. For example, if you have a personal dislike for hip hop, or are racist or classist, this thread is not for you. If you have had the luxury of never having to buy herb from the black market in "the hood" of American cities, and/or look down upon the black market in general, this thread is not for you. If you think that I am glorifying or romanticizing arguably one of the most controversial and hated human beings in modern times, this thread is not for you, as I don't do politics, and I hate war, and do not belong to, nor support any extremist group that commit acts of terror.

My personal thoughts? It very well could be any well known indica hybrid that was simply marketed with the name in Chicago, or it indeed was bred by a low key breeder and named Bin Laden. Perhaps it was a clone passed, or seeds passed down of a cross labeled "afghan x (hindu x pakistan) and the person who grew it simply named it Bin Laden.

P.S. While are are welcome to contribute, my goal of this thread is for someone from Chicago in the know to come forward and clear things up, so people from Chicago, Illinois and surrounding areas would have more knowledge about this than say someone from another country, or from states not considered the midwest.

Thank you in advance,
Tetra

Yes ther was a strain called bin laden. Hard to get the real deal tho. It was only sold in the daytime on Sacramento and Harrison a block away from that big ass police station . That shit was the strongest weed I ever smoked in my life. It was around for about 3 weeks. It was too expensive by the pound to have on the street. If someone got caught with a jab, it was a huge loss so it went away. That strain was on a whole nother level of weed.

 

[hottboyeighty6]

This thread is to see if there is/was a strain referred to in Chicago as "Bin Laden" or "Bin Laden weed" during the early 2000s. I'm not sure if it's a ficticious strain from the song of the same name, by Three 6 Mafia from their 2003 album Da Unbreakables, or if it indeed was a real strain (be it a well known strain that was simply marketed as such for shock value, and perhaps to stand out from simply calling it "Afghan Kush" or whatever it really was, but for those of you unfamiliar with the song, it starts out with the following intro from Juicy J. I will however be censoring the N word. :

"Man.... Hey *****, check this shit out: We was up in Chicago, right? With my ***** Big Hemp, y'knowwhatI'msayin? Man, the ***** pass me a blunt, man, like "Smoke this shit, *****! This some of that Bin Laden Weed! Y'all don't know nothing bout this shit down south!" I was all like: "What? What the fuck is Bin Laden Weed?" The man said: "The shit's like three different kinds of weed, man, grown all together." He said that shit some straight killer. Them Chicago ******, man, they named that shit "Bin Laden Weed," man, some straight fire!"

Based on the intro alone, if there is any factual information, it would lead me to believe it's a hybrid of 3 different strains, presumably indica plants from the middle east, based on the title of the song, and Bin Laden being from the middle east, and even though he was Saudi Arabian but later ended up in Afghanistan and Pakistan, so this would further lead me to believe it's some sort of hybrid consisting of plants from this area. Many possible strains come to mind, such as Afghan Kush, Hindu Kush, or any other indica dominant well known strain that is known to have afghan in it.

Throughout the song, each rapper stresses the potency of this "Bin Laden Weed".

In the first verse, DJ Paul raps about how his vision gets blurry, he feels as if he's about to fall asleep, and even questions if he's going to OD because of it's potency.

In the second verse, Juicy J explains that he's smoking "Bin Laden" as a means of relieving his stress caused from falling outs he's had with other rappers that he considers inferior. He also claims that all of his friends in the "hood" have Bin Laden, and that just one puff will make you an "addict".

In verse 3, Lord Infamous says "It's glowing like it's indigo, I smell it through the bag, I'm floatin' like a magic carpet straight from Baghdad". I am unsure what to make of "It's glowing like it's indigo", and I'm not sure if he confused the word indica with indigo, and he passed away so it's not as if I can ask him, but if one were to take it literally, the "glowing" I would presume refers to the ammount of trichomes, and if he truly meant to say indigo, indigo is a rich dark purplish blue, which would lead me to believe that this "strain" was a purple strain. He even goes on to make the bold and potentially controversial statement "This ain't Indonesia, Colombian or Cali man
It's a bio-weapon, straight from the Taliban". That further leads me to believe it's an indica from the middle east, since that is where that horrible group of people are from.

In verse 4, Crunchy Black raps about how he needs his weed and smokes his weed, and also questions if people remember him for introducing them to "Bin Laden Weed". He makes the statement "Get your funds together" leading one to believe that this was sold at a higher price than other strains available at the time in Chicago. His verse is the last verse, and he ends it with the statement "This one blunt action you'll have to smoke and see. Have you choking, falling out with your family" leading one to believe that after just one blunt, you are properly medicated, that the smoke expands in the lungs and makes you caugh, and perhaps could cause family issues. The only "family issue" I could see, in terms of responsibility would perhaps being too stoned to do anything, and cancel your plans, or forget about the things you were supposed to do. This also leads me to believe it's an indica.

The only reason I believe there may be some credibility to this being an actual name going around for a strain that was a 3 way cross of 3 indicas, is that prior to this song, (Three 6 Mafia goes back to 95) they would always refer to the strains they were smoking, even naming Cambodian Red in an early song. Additionally, since then, Juicy J who has gone on to have great success with his solo career is also known for specifically naming strains that he enjoys and smokes in his songs. While they do have songs where they use generic terms such as "bud" "hydro" "loud" "gas" and even just "weed", they have always been known to mention a strain by name if they are rapping about it.

I am not from Chicago which is why I am posting this for information. I could also see it simply being a well known indica that was named "Bin Laden" as I mentioned earlier, for shock value, or for marketing purposes. When the song was released in 2003, 9/11 was still fresh in everyones mind, and drug dealers have been known to sometimes mark their product or name their product after a very controversial figure. For example, sometimes baggies are stamped with pictures of political figures, or people perceived as monsters such as Bin Laden to either A. Marketing or B. Also marketing, but usually as a sign that it's of very higher quality. This can be seen in the black market with all sorts of substances.

I am seeking this information from people who may personally know members of Three 6 Mafia, but more likely, and more importantly, people who lived in Chicago post 9/11 2001 - 2003 and knew what strains and bud was going around, especially in "the hood". Unfortunately in the song, it's not specified what side of Chicago this was popular in.

DISCLAIMER: I kindly ask any possible trolls or haters to refrain from posting anything that is not relevant to my question. For example, if you have a personal dislike for hip hop, or are racist or classist, this thread is not for you. If you have had the luxury of never having to buy herb from the black market in "the hood" of American cities, and/or look down upon the black market in general, this thread is not for you. If you think that I am glorifying or romanticizing arguably one of the most controversial and hated human beings in modern times, this thread is not for you, as I don't do politics, and I hate war, and do not belong to, nor support any extremist group that commit acts of terror.

My personal thoughts? It very well could be any well known indica hybrid that was simply marketed with the name in Chicago, or it indeed was bred by a low key breeder and named Bin Laden. Perhaps it was a clone passed, or seeds passed down of a cross labeled "afghan x (hindu x pakistan) and the person who grew it simply named it Bin Laden.

P.S. While are are welcome to contribute, my goal of this thread is for someone from Chicago in the know to come forward and clear things up, so people from Chicago, Illinois and surrounding areas would have more knowledge about this than say someone from another country, or from states not considered the midwest.

Thank you in advance,
Tetra

Ooh forgot to say, the real Bin laden was green and purple with white frost red hairs. It looked like straight poison but in bud form. 1 joint fried 4 of us and we were Profesional chiefers. That Bin laden was real real