Ok so how can it be hermie stock if I found a male? If the female kicked out male flowers and pollinated itself or a plant close by those seeds would be female.
someone give me an AMENThat statement is very untrue. Even the best breeders whom are now only making 100% Fem Seeds still get a male to show up within seed batches (just go to any breeders page that has Fem Seeds and look at the complaints). We cannot control nature as we are simply man and a product of nature ourselves. S1's will indeed produce full on male plants it is just that it will produce more females and hermi's then it will males
Thundurkle, Your plant is a cross between an Oregon Purple called Nightshade and likely Oregon Grape from a big O/D grow near Roseburg. The Nightshade genetics are definately present in the plant you posted and I know the strains were grown together and sent south.
It will likely produce a very floral resinous mid grade bud with a light relaxing buzz.Cool temps will bring out the color.You can check for the Nightshade genes by dropping the night temps to around 40F. If the plant starts pumping anthocyanins you can be almost positive I am right about the heritage.
WR
Variety Stability
Ed Rosenthal
"Stable" and "unstable" are often used to describe characteristics of varieties. When I've asked marijuana growers what this means, they usually discuss plants, that like chameleons, change with time, location, or some other environmental condition.
The definition that breeders use for stability has to do with the variety, rather than the plant. Imagine a field of crops that grow in uniform rows, such as corn. Each of these plants, which were grown from seed, looks almost identical to the rest. What do we know about it? The plants could be a stable variety or an F1 hybrid. Stable varieties have a homogeneous gene pool, they are very close genetically. A true F1 hybrid plant is a cross between two stable varieties.All the new plants have received similar genetics. As a result, the plants are almost identical.
Landraces
In nature, landraces~that is, plant populations that have grown in a specific physical environment for many generations~are usually homogeneous in tropical areas. The reason is that these regions typically have consistent weather from year to year. The varieties that fall into this category are equatorial sativas and their progeny including Hazes, Brazilians, Colombians, Central Africans and other landraces that grow between the equator and 20 degree latitude.
In temperate and mild climates, the weather is more variable~one year it's rainy, the next it's sunny. Plant populations are more heterogeneous in these regions because this increases their ability to deal with variable weather. Depending on the conditions, some plants will thrive while others are more stressed. Because the weather differs from one year to the next, the heterogeneity allows some plants from the same gene pool to do well while others struggle. Which plants thrive and which plants experience stress depends on their compatibility with that year's weather patterns. How can these plants adapt to varying conditions, in contrast to their homogeneous cousins? Heterogeneity is a result of having different alleles, different versions of genes. Since the plants are pollinating each other, even alleles that are not beneficial in a given year are carried forward. Landraces that originate in temperate areas are found between the 25th and 30th paralles. They include Afghanis, Indicas, and Lebanese, Moroccan, and Mexican strains. Only when the weather pattern remains consistent for three or four years it will become apparent that the plants are becoming homogeneous.
True Breeding Strains
All modern marijuana strains are progeny of landraces. For instance. Skunk#1 is a combination of Oaxacan, Columbian Gold (probably Santa Marta Gold) and Afghani. The Skunk#1 breeder developed the F1 hybrid, and then followed artistry with more by making Skunk#1 into a true breeding strain. Creating a trued breeding strain requires a keen eye, nose and head in selecting parents for the subsequent crosses.
The theory is that by selecting from a smaller and smaller population of plants with similar characteristics, the variation in alleles between plants will eventually become very small, resulting in a true breeding strain. Techniques used to achieve this include inbreeding, that is, breeding sibling plants; backcrossing, which is crossing a plant with one of a previous generation; and self crossing, or crossing a plant to itself using induced hermaphroditism.
What does all this mean to the home gardener contemplating buying a packet of seeds? A true breeding strain can be very useful to people who plant seed to harvest bud. Conventional farmers use true growing seeds for the same reason. All the plants have the same characteristics and are ready at the same time. These strains are appropriate for the grower who wants a consistent and uniform crop.
The Advantages of Unstable Strains
Gardeners who buy seeds to choose clone mothers have a different set of goals. They have additional concerns beyond the yield they will get from the first trial of garden seeds. These gardeners are involved in a selection process. They're looking for one exceptional plant that stands out from the rest in some way to carry their garden forward. When this is a part of the gardener's goals, s/he is better off using F2 hybrids or unstable varieties. Plants grown from unstable seeds will exhibit some variation, which allows the grower to select the best one for his cannabis preferences and gardening goals. There are several different kinds of unstable varieties: F2 Hybrids, Partially Inbred, Four-Way Crosses, and Hidden Recessive.
F2 Hybrids
When two stable varieties (P1) are crossed, the generation hybrid (F1) is uniform. Not so when the F1 generation is crossed to itself. Each F1 plant contains a combination of genes from each parent, with random combinations of alleles. When F1s are crossed amongst themselves, these random combinations may allow the plants to exhibit qualities that would otherwise be recessive. F2 plants usually exhibit various combinations of the original two P1 parents. This may provide the grower with a lot of choices regarding growth habits and psychoactive qualities.
Partially Inbred
It requires six or seven generations of inbreeding to develop a variety that breeds true when it is crossed to itself. It also requires skill and talent, as well as clear goals. When the goals deviate, previous work may be rendered obsolete. Without skill at selecting crosses, the goal can never be reached. Even more pressing, when the market calls, breeders often offer varieties that haven't been completely refined. While this is not desirable for gardeners planning to grow a crop from seeds, it offers the gardener who is choosing clone mothers many opportunities.
Four-Way Crosses
Sometimes breeders cross two pairs of inbred lines to make two different F1 hybrids. Then the F1 hybrids are crossed together. Because there are so many combinations of alleles possible, and because the genes are so mixed up, it may take eight to ten generations to achieve a true breeding variety. Usually breeders release the new cross after five or six inbreeding crosses and then continue to refine the cross as they are selling seeds. As a result the Four-Way you bought a few years ago may look somewhat different than the one you buy this year.
Hidden Recessives
Once in a while a variety will be offered that comes in two versions of phenotypes. The notes will state that most of the plants will have a particular characteristic, but a small minority of the plants, usually one-quarter, one-sixth, or one-eight of them, exhibit a different characteristic. It could be something as inconsequential as leaf size, but sometimes the two versions of the plants are dramatically different. What's happening here is that the minority version carries recessive alleles of a single or several genes. They are expressed only when there is no dominant allele in the pair. For example, two F1 hybrids have both a dominant allele (A) and a recessive (a). When they are crossed, the statistical outcome is one AA place, two Aa plants, and ond aa plant. In the three plants with a A in the mix (the AA and the two Aa's), the dominant characteristic will present. Only the aa will exhibit the recessive characteristic. When recessive characteristics show up, it's an indication that the strain has not been "cleaned" of the recessive genes.
Gardeners have lots of choices. Not only are there hundreds of varieties, but they come either as F1 hybrids and true breeding strains, which produce nearly identical plants, or as F2 and only partially inbred varieties, which produce a range of similar plants. No matter what gardening goals you may have, there are a bounty of good selections available.
and then if you want to think I still don't know shit the book left out Ruderalis genes aka Auto Flowering which you do not want to mess with unless you are trying to have a plant that you can not make a mom out of because it flowers under 24hrs of light from seed.....
Read up and learn something and you are welcome for the Ed Rosenthal lesson that I typed word for word out of The Big Book of Buds 3 enjoy