Cheech & Chong Blame 'Right Wing' for Turning People Against Legalization of Pot

[hkush]

See... that's what I mean...

Racist assumptions about the reason people voted the way they voted.

Maybe 90% of the country's black people voted for Obama because they were tired of the republican bullshit. Your trying to make it a racial issue does not mean you are correct. If you will remember during the primary most of the black men polled supported Hillary, a white woman.

It is obvious that they were voting more "against republicans", than for racial reasons.

For you to Assume other wise, and for your assumption to be racially based, shows that you...

Not according to the ones I've seen on video. They 100% validate the assertion that they only voted for him because he was black. Voting because of race is racist. Sorry.

Oh, and they WON'T vote for Alan West because he's an Uncle Tom. More racism.

 

[ChronJohn]

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[Grat3fulh3ad]

Not according to the ones I've seen on video. They 100% validate the assertion that they only voted for him because he was black. Voting because of race is racist. Sorry.

Oh, and they WON'T vote for Alan West because he's an Uncle Tom. More racism.

Not according to what you've seen on video edited by whom?


And... how does racism or Marxism change what occurred?


In the 70's the tide was verifiably moving toward cannatolerence, It reversed direction during a right wing administration which was heavily pushing anti cannabis lies to scare the people.

 

[tokinafaty420]

I think that's a pretty close assessment. The dominoes are falling hard. More and more people are becoming politically active for a multitude of reasons and that bodes well for our movement.

With the economy going down the tubes quickly the government is going to be scrambling for tax revenue.

And it never fails that the worse the economy gets the more open societies are to drugs in general.

In the end though it's going to be about $$$$$$$$$$.

Federal maybe along with some states. However, I see some states sticking to their guns on this issue.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

eh....

can we get back on topic here guys.....

....and the topic of the thread is: Cheech & Chong Blame 'Right Wing' for Turning People Against Legalization of Pot .....

.....lets not get into some racialistic argument tangent....

 

[montanaorganics]

this is the most ridiculous post i have come across in some time.
Its like watching a dozen retarded women midgets arguing over who`s dick is smaller or bigger or whatever!

Forget about the left wing and the right wing; if it were up to either party it would never get legalized in my opinion.

Lets get the green wing(which is ALL of us) rolling cuz nobody else cares.
Until we come together as a strong, unified and organized political group of our own WE will always be misrepresented by those in power.

As long as we bicker about silly bipartisan personal private ideleologies we are splitting our own forces and ensuring its illegality more so than any right or left wing.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

this is the most ridiculous post i have come across in some time.
Its like watching a dozen retarded women midgets arguing over who`s dick is smaller or bigger or whatever!

Forget about the left wing and the right wing; if it were up to either party it would never get legalized in my opinion.

Lets get the green wing(which is ALL of us) rolling cuz nobody else cares.
Until we come together as a strong, unified and organized political group of our own WE will always be misrepresented by those in power.

As long as we bicker about silly bipartisan personal private ideleologies we are splitting our own forces and ensuring its illegality more so than any right or left wing.

I agree, but think that cannabis enthusiasts should take control of an existing party instead of starting from scratch. The Democrats already seem to be soft enough of marijuana policy to make it the most viable choice, imho.

What we really need is to have all the cannabis enthusiasts become vocal in whatever party they already belong to. When enough constituents make noises, politicians always listen.

The problem with trying to get a third party off of the ground, it has always seemed, is that third parties are always more extreme because both the mainstream left and mainstream right like lean toward center. Maybe if the third party was a centrist party, it could become a viable option and also force the left and right be distinct in their agendas...

I just smoked a bib bowl of bubble, so I'm probably just rambling, though....

 

[Payaso]

Thanks for your input Gypsy...it seems politics is a subject that will always gets folks riled up.

I am GRATEFUL to all that this has not descended into personal attacks and petty bickering...after all the subject of this thread is what Cheech and Chong said.

 

[vta]

Fits the thread nicely

 

[ijimunot]

What has Cheech and Chong done to warrant our attention and convince non smokers that cannabis should be legalized? Who is going to watch these shows? Stoners are paying to see them. The nostalgia is nice But to think attacking groups of people is going to help legalize cannabis will work is plain fantasy.
Only when we cooperate and understand others needs and fears of cannabis will we win our rights to grow and use cannabis.
Using Cheech n Chong to try to convince people cannabis should be legalized is like using drunks to try to lower DUI penalties.
Time for the radicals to shut the hell up and the mainstream users to speak up. I was at the first NORMAL demonstration in Washington and we felt it would only be a few years for normalization. Here we are 40 years or so still discussing it. Cannabis must be thought of as main stream not until then will we be able to use it without fear.

 

[Payaso]

Hey ijimunot, here's a little story that makes everything you said pointless.

When 'Up IN Smoke' was released back in the 70s I lived in a small town. The film was screened in the then-new cinema...and we got there early and paid for our tickets, smuggled in a tray of pot brownies, and settled down for the show.

Just before the film started, several burly bodyguards come thru the theater, and ask the folks in the aisle in front of us to move so the top local politician could sit there...

The Governor himself proceeded to sit directly in front of me as the film started... soon we were all laughing so hard I thought I was going to burst a blood vessel. The Guv looked stunned at first, but then started laughing... and when we got to the scene with cop stopping them in the van made of compressed pot it was all over. He was laughing so hard we all laughed harder...!

The very next day my Dad, local reporter for the local paper asked him about the film in an interview. The Guv said that based on what he saw he thought marijuana should be legalized.

So there is your answer... this type of comedy can and does show people the lighter side of marijuana and often convinces people that it is indeed harmless.

 

[hkush]

Love to say it but that story sounds like complete bullshit to me. What state was this in where the governor walks into a theater, makes someone already sitting in front of you MOVE, did they make them just move or make them leave altogether? I assume, the theatre was full if the governor stole someones seat. So did they leave? Did they complain? Tell him to go fuck himself?

Then, looking at the back of his head, in a dark theatre, you could see he "looked stunned" at first? If I'm sitting in a theatre, how do I tell if someone in front of me is "stunned"?

And then, from THAT movie, the governor decided marijuana should be legalized? What was the governors name?

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Reminds me of that time I went to see Harold & Kumar 2. Bush walked in, kicked some old lady out of her seat, literally, when she stood up he kicked her in the ass. Hard. My dad, the town reporter said he asked Bush if based on Harold & Kumar he would close Gitmo. Bush told him there wasn't enough evidence that the guard was real. So, the movie had backfired, and Gitmo is still open.

 

[vta]

Hate

You could of stopped after your 1st word.

 

[hkush]

You could of stopped after your 1st word.

Fixed the typo.

Now what was that mysterious Governor's name. The one who storms into movie theatres, kicks people out of their seat, and determines drug policy based on said movie. ROTFLMAO.

 

[vta]

nice!!!

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

LMAO at hkush calling Payaso a liar...

You seem confused as to the way things actually were, kid.

Most people back then thought it should be legal... that's why reagan had to lie so blatantly in order to demonize it...

'“I now have absolute proof that smoking even one marijuana cigarette is equal in brain damage to being on Bikini Island during an H-bomb blast.” -- Ronald Reagan

ROFLMAO... an H-bomb blast... REALLY??!?!?!

Really?!?!

really?

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

"You know, it's a funny thing, every one of the bastards
that are out for legalizing marijuana is Jewish. What the
Christ is the matter with the Jews, Bob? What is the matter
with them? I suppose it is because most of them
are psychiatrists." -- Richard Nixon
May 26, 1971
White House Tapes Released 3-2002

"Penalties against possession of a drug should not be more damaging to an individual than the use of the drug itself; and where they are, they should be changed. Nowhere is this more clear than in the laws against possession of marihuana in private for personal use... Therefore, I support legislation amending Federal law to eliminate all Federal criminal penalties for the possession of up to one ounce of marihuana."
- Jimmy Carter, U.S. President quote on Marijuana

'

“I now have absolute proof that smoking even one marijuana cigarette is equal in brain damage to being on Bikini Island during an H-bomb blast.” -- Ronald Reagan

 

[hoosierdaddy]

Head, I know you keep making the assertion that pot was becoming mainstream acceptable during those years, but I was there too...and we actually have TV and radio's in KY!
I did not see what you are claiming to have seen.

And I don't really know what your point is anyway? I mean, big fucking deal if Reagan made things worse. So what? Damn his hide...lol...

My point, and the reason I always try to defend folks like me that are conservative minded politically, is that there is a very bigoted and unfair bias towards folks of my stripe. And you can bring up all the evidence of a "republican" this or that that did this or that...it all means squat shit because there isn't any political party that has pot in it's platform in any shape form or fashion.
I always try to stress that folks are simply making things worse by pointing their blaming fingers, and at the very least they help absolutely nothing playing the blame game.

The people on this board that are more conservative minded people probably feel the way I do, and are tired of seeing this unfounded bigotry continue. And that is all you folks who throw rocks at anything and everything associated with the right are doing, practicing unfounded bigotry.
The stereotypes that are burned into some of your minds is quite a bit off from reality, and just your words proves that.
Many leftists love to proclaim they are out for the betterment of man...unless of course that man is a stinking fucking republican...then he is to be despised, made jokes of, and pretty much placed on a lower level of life than the holier than thou leftists.
That shit gets old fast. All bigoted shit gets old fast, IMO.

And the original post that Chris provided is, IMO, a perfect example of this bias that many share.
I pointed out that the story wasn't quite what it was titled as. But of course, it is the "right wing media" demonizing weed and the whole experience.
Maybe Payoso read in his mind "right wing of politics", but that wasn't quite the story.
And when we actually read the story, where Chong blames the right wing media for pot not being legal, there is nothing more. Had it been me that were interviewing him, I would have pressed him for at least one example of what he was talking about...especially since it was Fox interviewing them. Who else would Chong be blaming for pot not being legal if not Fox news?
Chong is no mental giant folks.
He shares the very same sorts of stereotypical bias that many of you here do.
Unfounded, and unfair.

 

[hkush]

LMAO at hkush calling Payaso a liar...

You seem confused as to the way things actually were, kid.

Most people back then thought it should be legal... that's why reagan had to lie so blatantly in order to demonize it...



ROFLMAO... an H-bomb blast... REALLY??!?!?!

Really?!?!

really?

No, not really. As in, you fell for another internet hoax. The quote is pure fiction.

Now lets hear that govna's name!

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

You did not see 11 states decrim. in the 70's?
You did not hear Carter's speech?


My point?
The right wing turned the people against legalization on marijuana.

They were led by dipshit corporate spokes model Ronald Reagan and his bitch wife, Nancy.

The difference was plain to see to anyone who lived through it, and was paying attention to it.

Carter supported national legalization, Reagan lied to scare people away from it.
Undeniable, incontrovertible, factual, historical events.