CC Sour D & AJ's Sour D Question

[Hundred Gram Oz]

Hi all I was wondering if the CC Sour D & AJ's Sour D that are floating around the UK are the same cuts? Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers
HGO

 

[Hazyfontazy]

i was under the impression cc's was east coast and aj's was original

 

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yeah aj is original diesel aka DNA cut

the cc is capt cript cut breeder of kryptonite seeds the cc has varigation the original doesn't

peace

 

[Piff Rhys Jones]

Has anyone compared the cc cut to the f.u.c.k.e.m cut?

Peace

 

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I would have the Chaco cut over any that one looks like the real deal ecsd

peace

 

[Hundred Gram Oz]

So is the AJ and CC the same cut? Reason I ask is because I got a SD cut labeled as AJ/CC Sour D so I'm assuming they're the same cut.

From what I gather AJ's Sour Diesel the original sour diesel from the north west USA (not to be confused with original diesel aka DNA cut)

Here is a quote from Fractalz from another realm....

OK, so here's the deal. Anyone who was a serious phishhead or hustler on tour, or was a well-connected NYC area head, used the moniker "AJ" before the word Sour to identify the herb was coming from AJ or his crew. AJ stands for "Asshole Joe" because it would always cost so much damn money for a sack of his herb, but he would get his sour to coat the inside of your body and stink up the block.... This is the Northeast's Holy Grail, period end, and when serious heads or players were buying it, they wanted to make sure it was the "AJ". At first that was more to identify that the herb was actually coming from him or close to him, and that usually meant you were going to Brooklyn to grab it....

Now, simultaneous to all of this, you had the Albany crew, and the Western Mass crew (G aka Chemdog). They rocked the Sour D in this same span of time, but they just called it the Sour or the Sour D.

There was no ECSD, why would we call it that? Its from the Northeast, and there was only one sour, we never needed to differentiate its regional geographic location...

I can't 100% say for certain that the AJ cut and the Sour D cut are exactly the same..... I have both cuts and I can tell you that I've gotten each cut to do completely different things in different runs. I have gotten the AJ to get flat calyx heads, and then other runs shoot tight conifer buds. Same thing with the Sour from the Western Mass crew... Swerve has used a picture of mine for years that shows the Sour D from G aka Chemdog. It's at about 5.5 weeks and there's white panda plastic behind it. That is the same cut as in the beginning of this thread, and they look COMPLETELY different in structure. The pic Swerve used shows the blocky, chunky, flat calyx look. And the pics in this thread show the Sour when it throws tighter, conifer-looking buds.. I have had the exact same results running the "AJ" that my crew bought back in the day from AJ.

The pink hair thing I notice comes out when she's taken premature, or done in hydro.

Since the Brooklyn crew and Albany/Western Mass crew hustled in the same circles and were part of a tight-knit crew. It leads me all to believe its genetic drift and different environments, and how vigorous she is when you get her, how you keep her, etc…. As for all the fake sour clones out there, dunno, don't care, sorry. Rez went and fucked up the Sour game for the rest of the country with all this ECSD shit. Don't think you can come to NY and get 6k a pack for that crap
Here is a shot of the "AJ" bought for 3k a tray from Brooklyn back in early 2000's. This is the first time I have EVER had her looking anything like this, she put out the super frost, wish I had a better camera. I have never had her go this purple in 5 years either….

The DNA Sour Diesel cut, is Original Diesel not "Original Sour Diesel" it goes by other names, weasle diesel, headband etc.

So what do you reckon fellas, is the CC cut the same as the AJ cut? I hope so because I would really love to grow out the AJ but I suspect that they are different cuts.

Peace
HGO

 

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that doesn't look like the cc I know of I'd say they were different cuts

the cc cut has variegated leaves does yours?

peace

 

[Hundred Gram Oz]

Is the AJ Sour D floating around the UK?

Peace
HGO

 

[TribalSeeds]

CC OSD is crossed with his Sour OG. Its got SFV and Orignal Diesel in it. Its not Original Diesel or ECSD. It turns purple.
I dont know what he used for the fems...

 

[EverLast]

Hey Tribal you didnt get it right mate....CC means Capt.Crip not Cali.Con.
Aj is the original Sour D not OD

 

[kg beans]

Is the AJ Sour D floating around the UK?

Peace
HGO

yes

 

[Piff Rhys Jones]

oops

 

[Piff Rhys Jones]

Is Rez/H3ad/CrazyComposer/Jimmynitz/SmokeyPuffmaster's ECSD over here?

Peace

 

[Piff Rhys Jones]

Having done a bit of reading on other forums it seems others have suggested the AJ cut is in fact the original ECSD. To those on the east coast it was/is simply known as sour diesel.

I reckon yours is labeled AJ/CC given that no one is sure whether the CC cut is the original. Others have suggested the CC cut may just be a bit worn out or suffering genetic drift.

Peace

 

[Homer J Pimpin]

This is the ecsd if it helps

 

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This is the ecsd if it helps

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that's the one the real ECSD I know it as the Chaco cut or the floppy sour most definately not the cc cut aka capt cript

I would deffo give an arm and a testicle for that

maybe a kidney thrown in too lol

peace

 

[Piff Rhys Jones]

Hi HGO I haven't heard of a verified AJ original sour diesel over here if the AJ cut is infact the tightly hoarded original (aka ECSD). Unless the cut OJD got off f.u.c.k.e.m crew is the AJ cut.

I think the confusion may stem from the original diesel/daywrecker/headband being referred to as the AJ cut. I have seen pics on other forums referring to the AJ cut that look suspiciously like the original diesel, which adds to the confusion.

The legit diesel cuts I have seen over here are:

Sour D f.u.c.k.e.m cut (used by CSG for breeding)
Sour D CC cut
Sour D Hazyfontazy's cut
Original Diesel (from DNA brought back by Jah Hoover)

I think Jah also got a legit sour diesel sent from the states back in the overgrow days but lost it.

Peace

 

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piff was Chaco part of the f.u.c.k.e.m crew too?

peace

 

[Fly by Night]

Put your finger on it...

Put your finger on it...

Sour D from NYC, 2003

Below we find chacos ecsd, tho years later and miles apart, they is the same genetic. Maybe they drifted slightly from being grown separately for so long

Stay greasy HGO, here's something for a REAL homie! Peace babeh

 

[SupaFunk]

That fry up pic just made my stomach growl. *wanders off to kitchen, baked, salivating like Pavlov's Dog!