Caribbean genetics / St. Vincent, Grenada, Tobago, Jamaica

[SeedySimon]

A picture of the Grenada:

Big bushy sativas with a lot of leaves. First pistils are colouring, but still a while to go for their finish. Hermaphroditism is also present in that line, several plants developed bananas. Potentially good yielders, they growing long formidable headbuds. Another notable thing about the Grenadas (and St. Vincents too) is the varying ripening time on different parts of the same plant, some buds smell enchanting while others on the next branch sometimes hardly have any smell.

 

[Hookahhead]

Thanks again for sharing!

 

[SeedySimon]

Thanks again for sharing!

Sure, thanks for your interest


And here comes a picture of a St. Vincent at week 11, topped hence the two headbuds:

They grow very tall and lanky, similar to the Grenada above. The flowers are smaller than the ones of their cousins from the neighbour island, but they have a significantly more intense smell. While floral and bubblegum-ish notes were predominant in the earlier flower phase, now those mellow notes have mixed with a deep spicy scent.


The St. Vincent line is the most interesting one, a handful of potential keepers were already selected and will be grown outdoors this season as I think this is where plants like these will shine most.

 

[Uludag]

Hey Seedy, very interesting, do you have any updates on that thread here? Maybe even started any lines with your nlx? greetings

 

[Azaghal]

Hello everybody,
thank you very very much SeedySimon for realeasing your seeds to the public community, much appreciated!

Was fortunate enough to get some while they were on sale on samenwahl/hipersemillas.com
but they are not any longer for sale.
Also the description vanished, but was able to retrieve it through the Wayback Machine:

If you use the translator DeepL you get this translation from German into English:

"These Caribbean landrace seeds come directly from the cannabis growing areas on the volcanic slopes of St. Vincent. They are authentic seeds that have never been hybridized. The patient grower will be rewarded after about three and a half to four months of flowering with a clear sativa high first class - a little Caribbean vacation for in between. It is recommended to already start the seeds under a 12/12 lighting to tame the sprawling vital growth of the plants. Especially when grown indoors - as with many tropical sativas - hermaphroditic tendencies must be taken into account, this landrace variety is therefore not recommended for production environments."

And from this link (St.Vincent und die Grenadinen)
you get this description through translating from German into Englisch:

"After Jamaica, St. Vincent is the largest producer of cannabis in the Caribbean. Cultivation takes place mainly on the fertile, difficult-to-access volcanic slopes in the north of the island and is largely tolerated by the authorities. Every few years, action is taken against the plantations, but probably with little consequence. After all, cannabis is an important economic factor on this island, where a considerable part of the population lives in poor conditions.
The cultivated plants are classified in the scheme of Merlin and Clarke (Cannabis: Evolution and Ethnobotany, 2013) as narrow leaf drug hemp type, i.e. sativa-heavy plants with narrow leaves. Inflorescences are loose, and resin content and aroma are light to medium. It can be assumed that with the imported flowers of hybrid varieties from Latin America, which are sold under the trade names "high grade" or "kush", modern genetics also find their way into the gene pool of the island. Based on own observations in the plantations on the island and experiments with brought seeds after this influence should not be very large, however, and the landrace character of the local varieties still seems largely preserved."

According to this and this "Cannabis is widely grown illicitly on the island and is the nation's
most valuable agricultural product.
Saint Vincent is the most prolific producer of cannabis in the Caribbean, other than Jamaica."

And another post by SeedySimon, source here. If translated, you get this:

"These seeds come directly from the volcanic slopes of Soufriere. It is a pure sativa landrace, grows very vigorous and large, very long flowering time of three and a half months up. Rather light, but refreshingly clear sativa effect. Who likes exotic plants will have his joy with the variety, but is definitely just something for experimenters. Starts flowering late, flowering time is three and a half months upwards. I recommend to start it right from seed with a 11/13 light cycle, since it starts flowering late anyway you can prune it if necessary before that if there is a lack of space. As is typical for landraces from this region, they also like to hermaphrodite sometimes even though with the St. Vincent the hermaphrodite tendency is not as pronounced as with the genetics I brought from other Caribbean islands. Does not require much fertilizer."

Also two other pictures by SeedySimon from St. Vincent:

Both the descriptions and 2 pictures belong to SeedySimon, all credit and ownership are his own,
only posted both because this info has not been posted here before and for collecting information on the seeds/variety.

Lastly another thread, also about St. Vincent landrace:

Preserving St. Vincent genetics

Thanks alot SeedySimon, cheers & happy growing everyone

 

[[Maschinenhaus]]

St.Vincent from Seedy Simon

These are still original packaged seeds, with me the St.Vincent has been successfully propagated to F2 and already crossed.

I have taken a very mineral, medium pre-fertilized soil mixture with pumice and lava.

 

[Energenetics]

Sure, thanks for your interest


And here comes a picture of a St. Vincent at week 11, topped hence the two headbuds:

They grow very tall and lanky, similar to the Grenada above. The flowers are smaller than the ones of their cousins from the neighbour island, but they have a significantly more intense smell. While floral and bubblegum-ish notes were predominant in the earlier flower phase, now those mellow notes have mixed with a deep spicy scent.


The St. Vincent line is the most interesting one, a handful of potential keepers were already selected and will be grown outdoors this season as I think this is where plants like these will shine most.

Hey there SeedySimon, any chance these are still available?

 

[jujuweed]

Trinidad and Tobago landrace here. They seem to be two different types, both were topped and one shot up 6 - 7 feet and seems to lean more towards sativa dominant The shorter one seems more like a hybrid but I dont know for sure, I just collect the seeds and plant them.

 

[goingrey]

Trinidad and Tobago landrace here. They seem to be two different types, both were topped and one shot up 6 - 7 feet and seems to lean more towards sativa dominant The shorter one seems more like a hybrid but I dont know for sure, I just collect the seeds and plant them.

From bag seeds or?

 

[jujuweed]

From bag seeds or?

From bag seeds, the growers here leave a few males around I just dont know what type of selection they do. I have no access to their plantation cause its deep in the forest and they place trap guns lol. Do you guys exchange beans on these forums?

 

[SunnyListon]

Sure, thanks for your interest


And here comes a picture of a St. Vincent at week 11, topped hence the two headbuds:

The St. Vincent line is the most interesting one, a handful of potential keepers were already selected and will be grown outdoors this season as I think this is where plants like these will shine most

Oh, just came in. Only 5 years too late.

Will the St. Vincent be availiable someday again?

Missed it.