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Carbon Filter not working well?
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Daemon
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^I'm not sure I understand? Are you referring to the ELF or a CAN? I noticed that the end cap of the filter(not the part with the flange), appears to be fastened on with pop rivets? If this is the case then I would think that the only way to refill it would be to drill a hole, fill, and then plug?
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statictattoo
Daemon said:
Just bring em over a doggie bag
Murphy
Member
To refil the elf, you need to remove the prefilter and drill out the rivets around the top flange. The the flange will come off, dump the carbon and refil. Instead if rivets, you can use short sheet metal screws.
I'm having the same problem but I think I'm going for piece of mind and not messing arund to find out what works, I'm getting a larger filter like Microwido suggested
I'm having the same problem but I think I'm going for piece of mind and not messing arund to find out what works, I'm getting a larger filter like Microwido suggested
Murphy
Member
Daemon said:
Get a drill and a bit that is very close to the size but a little larger then the rivit hole, and pull the trigger on the drill. I'm not talking down to you or trying to insult you, maybe you don't know how a rivit works. They "mushroom" on both ends, thats what holds things together and makes it so they don't pop out. The middle is the weakest point of the rivit. I tried to run a short screw into a rivit so I could mount my filter, the screw popped the rivit out so that may be another way for you to try. There are only a few rivits around the top of the filter so it really won't take much to get them out, they will drill out or snap pretty easily, they are soft metal. If worse come to worse, tap a small screwdriver under the lip of one and twist. Tapping the screwdriver under it may snap it alone. Once you pop the first one, you'll see how easy it is.
Murphy
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BTW, I'm very big on DIY stuff. I can make just about anything I set out to.....I may be a little slow at it, but I can do just about anything and I have the tools. To me, the carbon scrubber isn't worth the time or money to build/make. I've seen some great DIY scrubbers but, I haven't seen where they are really saving much money once you figure the time into it.
A trip to the store, gathering all the shit, putting it together for 4 hours plus $50 in supplies for something you saw someone else do and work for them vs. $83 plus shipping for a can 33 and the security of knowing you just bought something that WILL work for you is a no brainer to me. If there's no savings in the DIY project, don't do it. They are all great fun but sometimes just not cost effective. With the Can 33, all I have to do is order, wait 2 days, undo 1 screw for the duct clamp, replace the filter and I'm done. I'll take the 4 hours that would have gone to building it, roll a joint and watch my weed grow.
Here's the cheapest place I've found them. If someone knows a cheaper place, please post it up!
http://www.horticulturesource.com/p.../1448?osCsid=8a08fa4e2ade7fc4aae271df85d5a55b
A trip to the store, gathering all the shit, putting it together for 4 hours plus $50 in supplies for something you saw someone else do and work for them vs. $83 plus shipping for a can 33 and the security of knowing you just bought something that WILL work for you is a no brainer to me. If there's no savings in the DIY project, don't do it. They are all great fun but sometimes just not cost effective. With the Can 33, all I have to do is order, wait 2 days, undo 1 screw for the duct clamp, replace the filter and I'm done. I'll take the 4 hours that would have gone to building it, roll a joint and watch my weed grow.
Here's the cheapest place I've found them. If someone knows a cheaper place, please post it up!
http://www.horticulturesource.com/p.../1448?osCsid=8a08fa4e2ade7fc4aae271df85d5a55b
Cabinet boy
Member
How long have you been using the same carbon filter?Maybe its too old?When i bought my scrubber,the guy said it wont last too long.
Daemon
Member
Thanks for all the help everyone!
Well, I finally got it figured out. I remember when I hooked the original elf up, it felt very light and when I shook it I could tell that it was only half full of carbon - which didn't seem right to me. After speaking with HTG, they sent me a new one, and I finally figured out the problem. The new elf is at least twice as heavy and it completely packed with carbon. I hooked it up and threw all my girls back in my tent(more this time also, 8 STINKY girls), and it worked MASTERFULLY! I even pulled my exhaust away from the window(I had to vent out the window before because of the smell), and have it venting into the room - no smell at all.
So, I went ahead and bought 3 more of these locally, all of which appear to be filled correctly. Even if I have to change them every 3rd crop that's fine with me, their cheap. I am also going to take the bad one and try to drill the rivets out and fill it with good carbon. If it works I will get a camera and show exactly how I did it and got it put back together.
So, all in all, I'd say the ELF is a fine filter for a small(personal), grow; provided you get a good filled one.
Cheers!
Well, I finally got it figured out. I remember when I hooked the original elf up, it felt very light and when I shook it I could tell that it was only half full of carbon - which didn't seem right to me. After speaking with HTG, they sent me a new one, and I finally figured out the problem. The new elf is at least twice as heavy and it completely packed with carbon. I hooked it up and threw all my girls back in my tent(more this time also, 8 STINKY girls), and it worked MASTERFULLY! I even pulled my exhaust away from the window(I had to vent out the window before because of the smell), and have it venting into the room - no smell at all.
So, I went ahead and bought 3 more of these locally, all of which appear to be filled correctly. Even if I have to change them every 3rd crop that's fine with me, their cheap. I am also going to take the bad one and try to drill the rivets out and fill it with good carbon. If it works I will get a camera and show exactly how I did it and got it put back together.
So, all in all, I'd say the ELF is a fine filter for a small(personal), grow; provided you get a good filled one.
Cheers!
upgradeshafted
Member
cubic foot of activated carbon $68...building your own scrubber...priceless
Kenny Lingus
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I have 1 area/home-box of 1,2sqm 2m high for bloom and using 600hps (venting filtered out)
And then there is this cupboard with a 250MH for veg that I just scrub through a filter inside the rom. I also have 100w of tubes for clones/nursing and this is unvented/open to the room.
Intake I passive through door/window. Temps are just fine, and the bloom area is speed controlled with temperature override. (different ideal temps for day night)
Very dry environment, usually max 40 in the bloom (toward 60 at nights.)
I find that with real stinker strains I need double the recommended carbon filter, and should probably have ozone or something as well. It have happened the smell from the filtered and expelled air has fell down in the backyard when the weather is in the right mood for it... Other times I find the odor travel up and into skylights on the roof or across the buildings walls and into stairway windows... (I live on the second to top floor (5th floor) and vent outside through window-rig)
Problem is that I am in the turn of moving, and will now get even closer to the ground level -3meters!- (in a moderatley trafficated residental area street.).
What can I d to make sure the smell and sounds don't enter neighbouring windows and the street below?
-Seal the room and make a periodical emergency vent into a mixing chamber where I add ozone or vaportec/ONA???
If I can mount a heat exchange aggregate/pump I may just do that and run completely sealed... (although I don't know how often I must reload carbon tanks.)
And then there is this cupboard with a 250MH for veg that I just scrub through a filter inside the rom. I also have 100w of tubes for clones/nursing and this is unvented/open to the room.
Intake I passive through door/window. Temps are just fine, and the bloom area is speed controlled with temperature override. (different ideal temps for day night)
Very dry environment, usually max 40 in the bloom (toward 60 at nights.)
I find that with real stinker strains I need double the recommended carbon filter, and should probably have ozone or something as well. It have happened the smell from the filtered and expelled air has fell down in the backyard when the weather is in the right mood for it... Other times I find the odor travel up and into skylights on the roof or across the buildings walls and into stairway windows... (I live on the second to top floor (5th floor) and vent outside through window-rig)
Problem is that I am in the turn of moving, and will now get even closer to the ground level -3meters!- (in a moderatley trafficated residental area street.).
What can I d to make sure the smell and sounds don't enter neighbouring windows and the street below?
-Seal the room and make a periodical emergency vent into a mixing chamber where I add ozone or vaportec/ONA???
If I can mount a heat exchange aggregate/pump I may just do that and run completely sealed... (although I don't know how often I must reload carbon tanks.)
