awesome tip, so is this good for indoor soil in veg or bloom?
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Also it looks like there are a lot of plants crowded around your weed. They may be stealing nutrients or reduce airflow. Some leaves look like either mildew or leaf septoria. Microbial issues are usually the result of 1) environment and/or 2) nutrients.
Stop blindly trying to fix the issue your only compounding the problem byb adding all this stuff
Do this check for insects First and foremost chances you have them contrary to popular belief healthy plants attract insects more then unhealthy plants. only thing is they can defend themselfs better then weaker plants
You have a bug issue if leafs are dropping and it appears the tops are starting to get infected also
secondly dig up some soil and do a simple test on ph and ppm
Do this check for insects First and foremost chances you have them contrary to popular belief healthy plants attract insects more then unhealthy plants. only thing is they can defend themselfs better then weaker plants
You have a bug issue if leafs are dropping and it appears the tops are starting to get infected also
secondly dig up some soil and do a simple test on ph and ppm
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I've done this. pH of soil came back at 7.3
The plants I used the powered milk/gypsum on are looking somewhat better. Just did some folier feeding today as well.
Brewing a guano tea right now with the correct pH range currently so we'll see how that works wendsday
Flan,
Realize what pH means, it means that you have more element than you can hold. The problem is you don't know what you have.
The water having a high pH makes things tough. Can you get a hold of some citric acid?
Everyone needs calcium. Hard to miss with that recommendation even though a lot often disagree.
So much easier with a soil analysis.
Realize what pH means, it means that you have more element than you can hold. The problem is you don't know what you have.
The water having a high pH makes things tough. Can you get a hold of some citric acid?
Everyone needs calcium. Hard to miss with that recommendation even though a lot often disagree.
So much easier with a soil analysis.
You should water in small amounts of magnesium lime. You can spray epsom salts on the leaves before the lime takes effect.
This is typical magnesium deficiency in early flowering. The thick looking leaves (sometimes they have a blue-ish or very deep green look), the lack of chlorophyl in the leaves, the fact that it starts in the middle of the plant.
If you're outdoors, perhaps you have low ppm/ec water too, which can lead to magnesium/calcium etc. deficiency. Same with filtered water.
I totally agree to foliar on Mg, but usually a Mg deficiency happens for a couple of reasons.
1. Too much Mg in the soil. Yep, the more you have, the less available to the plant as the soil starts holding water and nutrients start stacking up, leading up to in many cases, salt problems.
2. Too much K, blocks Mg.
3. Too much K and Na, "".
4. Not enough Ca, when Ca is low, everything is off. It is the base, it is the white background behind every beautiful painting...
Glad to hear the Ca is helping....
Flan,
How about an update? You going to send in a soil sample to see what is really happening and how far off the rest really is?
How about an update? You going to send in a soil sample to see what is really happening and how far off the rest really is?
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Due to account issues I wasn't able to give any updates -- here's an extremely late one by about 6 months lol.
So that mystery disease I encountered last year I wasn't able to fully correct before harvest. However, the lime/gypsum treatment Slownickel suggested seemed to help quite considerably. Definitely think it may have been a Mg deficiency (TanzanianMagic)
May start a grow journal for the hell of it this year - I probaby will start germinating in a week or two
Some pics from last year;
So that mystery disease I encountered last year I wasn't able to fully correct before harvest. However, the lime/gypsum treatment Slownickel suggested seemed to help quite considerably. Definitely think it may have been a Mg deficiency (TanzanianMagic)
May start a grow journal for the hell of it this year - I probaby will start germinating in a week or two
Some pics from last year;
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Thanks again rather lately for all who offered advice
Looks like they hit mid-flower and ran into the usual extra need of PK and Mg.
I know this was last year, however if his occurs again, just feed with ripening and a magnesium source like epsom salt. Not a lot, just an addition to their base nutrients (which are already in the ground in this case).
They need a base feed (say 5-5-5) and then extra nutrients depending on their phase of growth. Which should be:
Seedling: p/k
Vegging: n
pre-flowering: P, Mg
mid-flowering onwards through ripening: K
Someone who has the same idea:
And of course there is no need to buy potassium in a bottle. Wood ash, seaweed, molasses. Although it's interesting to see what a very high dose of potassium would do. It will be an interesting year.
It looks like typical magnesium deficiency in early flowering.
From the earliest pre-flowers showing up onward, cannabis needs a boost of phosphorus and magnesium.
From mid-flowering onwards, it needs a boost of potassium.
CalMag, Maerl or magnesium lime, espom salt (MgSO4).
I think a foliar spray solution of epsom salt would be the quickest acting.
This is a funny thread.
The plant in qtuestion looks like it has a hos of deficiency; most prominent is Mg, but also N and K are deficient, and likely micronutrients like iron. The recommended course of action would be a soluble fertilizer drench with adequate levels of all elements added slowly to correct deficiencies.
The plant in qtuestion looks like it has a hos of deficiency; most prominent is Mg, but also N and K are deficient, and likely micronutrients like iron. The recommended course of action would be a soluble fertilizer drench with adequate levels of all elements added slowly to correct deficiencies.
Flan,
Your P was low all along the way. Quite clear in the photos.
When you see what looks like a Mg issue, quite often it is a P problem. Only apply Mg foliarly. It works just fine.
